Possible CPU/Mobo Issue

[impulse89]

Hey Everyone,

This is the problem that I'm having.

I've got a Phenom 2 X4 955 that I OC'd just under a year ago to 3.7Ghz.
In the last month up till now, sometimes my pc will completly freeze, the speakers will make a electric static noise and my pc will restart.
It will always boot back up fine and I can get back into whatever i was doing without any issue.
I thought that the CPU might not be stable anymore, so I downloaded prime95 and pretty much as soon as i started the "blend" test my pc rebooted, but without the electric noise and crash.
This prompted me bring pull back on my overclock, but now whenever I reboot my PC, I cannot even see the post screen, and if i just blind tap f8 or f10 (whichever it is)
the monitor never turns on. (it says its in power save mode)

Any suggestions?
Heres my full build:

3.70 gigahertz AMD Phenom II X4 955
MSI NF980-G65 (MS-7612) 1.0
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 (2x)
8GB DDR3 1600 Ripjaws

 

[mosox]

Try with one stick of RAM at a time, maybe one has gone bad.

 

[impulse89]

Humm... ok, thanks for the tip.. ill give it a try now and let you know.

 

[impulse89]

Just finished... The memory all behaves individually as the do together.
Any other ideas? The more I think about it, the more I think its the mobo, not the cpu...
I cant get to the BIOS and im not sure how much the CPU influences that.

 

[mosox]

Then it might be one of your video cards. Try the same with one at a time. What's the PSU?

 

[impulse89]

My PSU is a XION 1100 Watt.
I took out the video cards one at a time and each worked indivisually with my able to see the post, but now they work together as well..
I tried to do some more stress testing with Prime95 but it still crapped out after only a few minutes... I lowered the multiplier so Im now at 3.5Ghz... I'm a little dissapointed.
I know that 2 bins isn't anything major though.
I'm going to try to reproduce the error I was having before with the PC crash and the weird noise and I'll let you know if nothing happens again today.

 

[mosox]

Post your temperatures
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/PC-Wizard-Release.shtml

 

[impulse89]

PC Wizard 2010 Version 1.961
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Owner: Microsoft
Organisation: Microsoft
User: Joshua
Computer Name: JOSHUA-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate Professional Media Center 6.01.7601 Service Pack 1
Report Date: Saturday 25 June 2011at 18:16

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<<< Voltage, Temperature and Fans >>>
> Hardware Monitoring : Fintek F71889FG
> +3.3V Voltage : 3.34 V
> Processor Voltage : 1.38 V
> +5V Voltage : 4.71 V
> +12V Voltage : 12.06 V
> VIN4 : 1.50 V
> VIN5 : 1.55 V
> VIN6 : 1.28 V
> VSB3V : 3.34 V
> VBAT : 3.18 V
> TMPIN0 : 50 °C
> TMPIN1 : 91 °C
> TMPIN2 : 42 °C
> Processor AMD Phenom II X4 : Sensor DTS
> Core 1 : 53.5 °C
> Core 2 : 53.5 °C
> Core 3 : 53.5 °C
> Core 4 : 53.5 °C
> Energy Power : 113.40 W
> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 : nVidia Driver + Analog Devices ADT7473 +
> Temperature : 49 °C
> Temperature (Ambient) : 44 °C
> Temperature (GPU) : 49 °C
> Temperature (Card) : 44 °C
> Fan : 86%
> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 : nVidia Driver + Analog Devices ADT7473 +
> Temperature : 55 °C
> Temperature (Ambient) : 48 °C
> Temperature (GPU) : 55 °C
> Temperature (Card) : 48 °C
> Fan : 86%
> Hard Disk Monitoring : S.M.A.R.T
> Hard Disk Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 : 36 °C
> Hard Disk ST31000528AS : 36 °C

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***** End of report *****





Is this everything you need?

 

[mosox]

The CPU temp is high, that's on idle, right? Drop the voltage in BIOS to 1.25. You may need to reapply the thermal paste.

 

[impulse89]

I had just quit playing a game... so not sure.
Ok, Ill drop the voltage, and Im pretty sure I have some Arctic Silver somewhere..


just re-checked the utility... cpu temps dropped to 51.4c but its still a bit high... (this is before voltage drop)

 

[impulse89]

PC Wizard 2010 Version 1.961
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Owner: Microsoft
Organisation: Microsoft
User: Joshua
Computer Name: JOSHUA-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate Professional Media Center 6.01.7601 Service Pack 1
Report Date: Saturday 25 June 2011at 18:51

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<<< Voltage, Temperature and Fans >>>
> Hardware Monitoring : Fintek F71889FG
> +3.3V Voltage : 3.36 V
> Processor Voltage : 1.27 V
> +5V Voltage : 4.71 V
> +12V Voltage : 12.06 V
> VIN4 : 1.50 V
> VIN5 : 1.04 V
> VIN6 : 0.69 V
> VSB3V : 3.34 V
> VBAT : 3.18 V
> TMPIN0 : 43 °C
> TMPIN1 : 90 °C
> TMPIN2 : 40 °C
> Processor AMD Phenom II X4 : Sensor DTS
> Core 1 : 45 °C
> Core 2 : 45 °C
> Core 3 : 45 °C
> Core 4 : 45 °C
> Energy Power : 105.00 W
> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 : nVidia Driver + Analog Devices ADT7473 +
> Temperature : 47 °C
> Temperature (Ambient) : 42 °C
> Temperature (GPU) : 47 °C
> Temperature (Card) : 42 °C
> Fan : 86%
> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 275 : nVidia Driver + Analog Devices ADT7473 +
> Temperature : 56 °C
> Temperature (Ambient) : 48 °C
> Temperature (GPU) : 56 °C
> Temperature (Card) : 48 °C
> Fan : 86%
> Hard Disk Monitoring : S.M.A.R.T
> Hard Disk Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 : 35 °C
> Hard Disk ST31000528AS : 35 °C

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***** End of report *****


new temps... i'm impressed.

 

[impulse89]

Whats the ideal range for my phenom? I obviously didn't put any new paste on yet, but if you think it will still make a difference, I totally will

 

[impulse89]

Damn, well since I last posted, ive experienced 3 system crashes while playing DNF.
I don't know why... Its really upsetting me.
One of the times it went to a BSOD and the message said something about a page file....

 

[impulse89]

Well, i applied new arctic7 and temps dropped to 43.5 idle..
I have a zalman 9500a...

 

[mosox]

Page fault in non paged area? Might be software related. You can rule out a software problem only if you reinstall the OS.

 

[impulse89]

I did that as well... not getting bsod but its still crashing

 

[impulse89]

Im starting to suspect it may be my PSU...
the exact model number is XON-1100P14HE
on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-190-025&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2#scrollFullInfo

When I bought it, there was no bad reviews, but now people are saying it may not provide enough power to the graphics cards when in sli with two or more cards...

I don't know what to think.

 

[impulse89]

Latest Sensor reading:


--------[ AIDA64 Extreme Edition ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Version AIDA64 v1.80.1450
Benchmark Module 2.7.380-x64
Homepage http://www.aida64.com/
Report Type Report Wizard
Computer JOSHUA-PC
Generator Joshua
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.1.7601 (Win7 RTM)
Date 2011-06-28
Time 21:44


--------[ Sensor ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type Fintek F71889 (ISA A00h)
GPU Sensor Type Analog Devices ADT7473 (NV-I2C 2Eh)
Motherboard Name MSI MS-7612

Temperatures:
Motherboard 37 °C (99 °F)
CPU 41 °C (106 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 43 °C (109 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 43 °C (109 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 43 °C (109 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 43 °C (109 °F)
MCP 66 °C (151 °F)
GPU1: GPU 53 °C (127 °F)
GPU1: GPU Memory 45 °C (113 °F)
GPU1: GPU Ambient 45 °C (113 °F)
GPU2: GPU 45 °C (113 °F)
GPU2: GPU Memory 37 °C (99 °F)
GPU2: GPU Ambient 39 °C (102 °F)
Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 32 °C (90 °F)
ST31000528AS 32 °C (90 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 2581 RPM
GPU1 2855 RPM (86%)
GPU2 2764 RPM (86%)

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.272 V
+3.3 V 3.344 V
+5 V 5.107 V
+12 V 12.056 V
+3.3 V Standby 3.344 V
VBAT Battery 3.168 V
GPU1: GPU Core 1.170 V
GPU1: GPU Vcc 3.343 V
GPU2: GPU Core 1.050 V
GPU2: GPU Vcc 3.347 V

 

[mosox]

That PSU should be fine. Is one of your video cards overclocked, why there's a different voltage?

 

[impulse89]

Humm.. I never noticed that...

I use MSI's Afterburner software.

Before I did this latest test, I reset the OC back to stock.... maybe it didnt hit both cards? I'll have to screw around with that and see whats up.

I think I can almost eliminate the CPU being a problem with overheating, because with 80% load playing games and watching netflix on my 2nd screen i never broke 50c

 

[impulse89]

its really weird... the second gtx275 seems to have the voltage fluctuate between 1.050v and 1.1.70v

Could this be the cause of this?

 

[eightdrunkengods]

How fast is your RAM running? If it's 1600 or so, turn it down to 1333 and see if the problem goes away.

 

[impulse89]

Humm, yeah, its 1600. Ill put it back to 1333.

 

[impulse89]

Tried Prime95... BSOD seconds after running

*edit

are there any testing applications that could possibly tell me what might be up?
I don't care if i have to pay some cash.

 

[impulse89]

--------[ AIDA64 Extreme Edition ]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Version AIDA64 v1.80.1450
Benchmark Module 2.7.380-x64
Homepage http://www.aida64.com/
Report Type Report Wizard
Computer JOSHUA-PC
Generator Joshua
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 6.1.7601 (Win7 RTM)
Date 2011-06-29
Time 19:58


--------[ Sensor ]------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type Fintek F71889 (ISA A00h)
GPU Sensor Type Analog Devices ADT7473 (NV-I2C 2Eh)
Motherboard Name MSI MS-7612

Temperatures:
Motherboard 36 °C (97 °F)
CPU 39 °C (102 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 42 °C (108 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 42 °C (108 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 42 °C (108 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 42 °C (108 °F)
MCP 64 °C (147 °F)
GPU1: GPU 52 °C (126 °F)
GPU1: GPU Memory 44 °C (111 °F)
GPU1: GPU Ambient 44 °C (111 °F)
GPU2: GPU 44 °C (111 °F)
GPU2: GPU Memory 36 °C (97 °F)
GPU2: GPU Ambient 38 °C (100 °F)
Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 32 °C (90 °F)
ST31000528AS 32 °C (90 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU 2581 RPM
GPU1 2849 RPM (86%)
GPU2 2763 RPM (86%)

Voltage Values:
CPU Core 1.280 V
+3.3 V 3.344 V
+5 V 5.107 V
+12 V 12.056 V
+3.3 V Standby 3.344 V
VBAT Battery 3.168 V
GPU1: GPU Core 1.170 V
GPU1: GPU Vcc 3.343 V
GPU2: GPU Core 1.050 V
GPU2: GPU Vcc 3.347 V
Debug Info F 0245 0FFF 0FFF
Debug Info T 39 95 36
Debug Info V D1 A0 70 89 5F 3F 24 D1 C6
Debug Info I 03 04 10 19 34 (0723)


I see that the MCP is running much hotter than anything else in my pc... MCP is what controls the SLI right? Or something like that... Could that be my issue?