Geforce 9600 gso 512mb x 2(SLI) versus readeon hd5770

[kaoscoded]

hello...newbie here...please be kind

deciding between setting up (2)geforce 9600 gso 512mb in SLI mode

or

purchasing an hd5770

i can purchase the 9600's for about $55-60 each which would be alot less than the cost of the hd5770...but how would they compare? according to hardware compare - hwcompare.com - comparing the 9600 gos 512mb to the hd5770 shows this:

Intro
The GeForce 9600 GSO 512MB comes with core clock speeds of 650 MHz on the GPU, and 900 MHz on the 512 MB of GDDR3 memory. It features 96 SPUs along with 48 Texture Address Units and 16 ROPs.

Compare that to the Radeon HD 5770, which has GPU clock speed of 850 MHz, and 1024 MB of GDDR5 memory running at 1200 MHz through a 128-bit bus. It also is comprised of 800(160x5) Stream Processors, 40 TAUs, and 16 ROPs.
(No game benchmarks for this combination yet.)

Power, Temperatures and Theoretical Benchmarks

Power ConsumptionGeForce 9600 GSO 512MB 90 Watts
Radeon HD 5770 108 Watts
Difference: 18 Watts (17%)

Memory Bandwidth

The Radeon HD 5770 should in theory be quite a bit faster than the GeForce 9600 GSO 512MB overall. (explain)
Radeon HD 5770 76800 MB/sec
GeForce 9600 GSO 512MB 57600 MB/sec
Difference: 19200 (25%)

Texel Rate

The Radeon HD 5770 is a small bit (about 8%) faster with regards to texture filtering than the GeForce 9600 GSO 512MB. (explain)
Radeon HD 5770 34000 Mtexels/sec
GeForce 9600 GSO 512MB 31200 Mtexels/sec
Difference: 2800 (8%)

Pixel Rate

The Radeon HD 5770 is much (more or less 24%) faster with regards to AA than the GeForce 9600 GSO 512MB, and should be able to handle higher screen resolutions while still performing well. (explain)
Radeon HD 5770 13600 Mpixels/sec
GeForce 9600 GSO 512MB 10400 Mpixels/sec
Difference: 3200 (24%)

my question is this...theoretically, would using the 9600 gos 512mb in sli(2) double these rates? would this also mean it is more cost effective to use (2)9600's versus (1)5770 and still get the same or better performance? all input is greatly appreciated...thanks.


~kaoscoded

 

[wiinippongamer]

"$55-60 each alot less than the cost of the hd5770", no , see this 5770 for $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131330&cm_re=5770-_-14-131-330-_-Product

Getting 2 9600gsos at this point would be completely ridiculous, in SLI, it won't perform any better than a single 5770 if not worse, it will use alot more power and produce a lot more heat, and also lack DX11.

It's a no brainer there.

 

[accolite]

It will be more powerful but they will suck a lot more juice last time I checked 2 9600gt sli almost equaled 2 8800gt sli and taking into account that 2 8800gt equal about a 460 I'd say it's at least or more powerful than a 5770.

But then again the previous poster has a point it's a older card, in the end it's up to you!

 

[Helltech]

Why purchase a 5770 for 120 dollars when you can get a GTX 460 768 for 105 dollars?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162058&cm_re=GTX_460_Galaxy-_-14-162-058-_-Product

 

[accolite]

Why settle 768MB when you can have 1GB?

 

[Helltech]

Why settle 768MB when you can have 1GB?

Because its not 105 dollars? Judging by the post you can see the OP is taking cost into account. He is obviously around the 100 dollars range. Heck you *could* just suggest a GTX 580 but that wouldn't make much sense, right?

 

[Snipergod87]

Why settle 768MB when you can have 1GB?

Why settle for a 460 when you can get a 580.... Reason: Budget.

 

[kaoscoded]

Why purchase a 5770 for 120 dollars when you can get a GTX 460 768 for 105 dollars?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162058&cm_re=GTX_460_Galaxy-_-14-162-058-_-Product

awesome...and yes, price is a concern for now...had no idea there was a gtx460 for 105...even if it is 768mb...thanks for the link and help! i'm on it!!!

and thanks to everyone who responded...gotta love forums!




~kaoscoded

 

[Helltech]

awesome...and yes, price is a concern for now...had no idea there was a gtx460 for 105...even if it is 768mb...thanks for the link and help! i'm on it!!!

and thanks to everyone who responded...gotta love forums!




~kaoscoded

Yeah no problem it is an amazing deal. =]

 

[accolite]

I say go spend the money you can to get a decent gpu and not be sorry later that you didn't spend the extra $15.

 

[Helltech]

I say go spend the money you can to get a decent gpu and not be sorry later that you didn't spend the extra $15.

I implore you to find me a GTX 460 1GB that is 120 dollars.... The SE version (worse than the 768 mb version btw) is 140 USD for the cheapest, and the normal 1GB version cheapest is 155 USD. These are on Newegg, for reference.

 

[accolite]

I implore you to find me a GTX 460 1GB that is 120 dollars....

I am talking about the 5770!?

 

[Mousemonkey]

It will be more powerful but they will suck a lot more juice last time I checked 2 9600gt sli almost equaled 2 8800gt sli and taking into account that 2 8800gt equal about a 460 I'd say it's at least or more powerful than a 5770.

But then again the previous poster has a point it's a older card, in the end it's up to you!

The OP is talking about the 9600 GSO not the GT's and the 512MB GSO's only have 48 cores making them no match for the 8800GT's which have 112 and even in SLi they will probably be out done by a single 5770.

 

[Helltech]

I am talking about the 5770!?

5770 is not better than a GTX 460 768 MB....

http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/502403-graphics-card-ranking-5th-time-last.html

EDIT - Were you talking to the OP's about his dilemma about the 9600 GSO's SLI vs 5770? If so I agree about getting a more powerful single card than trying to SLI those 9600's. Regardless if he is thinking about buying a 5770 for 120 USD the more intelligent decision would be to get that GTX 460 768 for 105 USD.

 

[wiinippongamer]

gtx460 will still perfrom better even though it's the 768mb version, but it could be a problem later on when games use even more memory, games like gta iv, crysis or metro are already cutting it close even at lowish resolutions. gta iv uses over 1000mb of my 5850 when maxed and I'm at 1360x768, crysis uses over 800mb, all that without AA, I know the system has allocated memory for the graphics when the gpu isn't enough, but even still it could be a potential problem in the not-so-far future

 

[accolite]

The OP is talking about the 9600 GSO not the GT's and the 512MB GSO's only have 48 cores making them no match for the 8800GT's which have 112 and even in SLi they will probably be out done by a single 5770.

Actually they came in both variants with 96 and 48! In SLI there there really is no difference between a 9600gt, a 9600gso, and a 8800gt/9800gt. A couple of frames here and there but not much to be considered substantial.

 

[Snipergod87]

GTA IV is a horrible port with bad graphics memory management. I would not use that as a good example. I am still using my 4870 512MB card without issues @ 1680x1050. I honestly think a 768MB card will suffice for his needs. Sure he wont be able to max everything out, but the 460 is not designed to have everything maxed, it is a mid range card.

 

[accolite]

Ram is the main reason why I am suggesting the 5770.

 

[Mousemonkey]

Actually they came in both variants with 96 and 48! In SLI there there really is no difference between a 9600gt, a 9600gso, and a 8800gt/9800gt. A couple of frames here and there but not much to be considered substantial.

There is only one 9600GSO 512MB that I can find.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9600_gso_512_us.html

The 9600GT is the card that comes in two variants from what I can find.

 

[accolite]

There is only one 9600GSO 512MB that I can find.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9600_gso_512_us.html

The 9600GT is the card that comes in two variants from what I can find.

I've seen them on newegg either way back when they came out so maybe my memory is a little fuzzy, anyway sli'd there is no real big difference that's all I'm trying to get at.

I got all my info from toms reviews and a couple of other sources of these cards from over the years, again from what I can remember.

EDIT:
From link that is a 48 core gso! So I am guessing thats all they offer now but I bet you can find a 96 core unit used. anyway that's beside the point.

 

[Mousemonkey]

I've seen them on newegg either way back when they came out so maybe my memory is a little fuzzy, anyway sli'd there is no real big difference that's all I'm trying to get at.

I got all my info from toms reviews and a couple of other sources of these cards from over the years, again from what I can remember.

Even when SLi'd there will be a difference due to the core count and RAM, the 9600GSO 512MB will be more akin to the GT220's than the 8800GT due to only having 48 cores.

 

[Mousemonkey]

The 96 core 9600GSO was a 384MB card using the G80 GPU.

 

[accolite]

All I can do is point you to the charts!

As a example here is a link:

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-cards-charts-2009-high-quality/Sum-of-FPS-Benchmarks-1680x1050,1831.html

the 8600gso would be in between 8800gt and 9600gt.

 

[accolite]

The 96 core 9600GSO was a 384MB card using the G80 GPU.

yes, correct

 

[kaoscoded]

guys...perhaps i should have been a little more clear when i first brought up the dilemma...you guys have been great and the information has only added to my limited understanding regarding video cards...i'm not a hard core gamer...i like playing dragon age origins, warhammer 40k and games along those lines...otherwise i stick to my consoles for games...

i mostly mess around with animation and 3d art...i have an intel 2 quad core 2.5g with 8 megs of ram...it's a little over a year old and i'm replacing a gt220 ddr3 1gig card...

i have also been looking at a gtx 260 896mb overclocked selling for $90...the directx 11 thing doesn't concern me too much as i will be replacing the system later this year anyway...

that gtx 460 with 768mb seems like a steal to me and it's for a short period before i pass it on to my son to bang around on...thanks for all the input...



~kaoscoded