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March 27, 2011 10:37:19 PM

Looking to build a budget system to replace my secondary machine. Should be able to run at least 5 copies of Eve Online in windowed mode 1024x768 on minimum settings.


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Core 2 Quad Q8300
8gb DDR3 1600 (gskill ripjaw)
650w corsair PS
Radeon HD 5770 1gb GPU
28" Hanns G LCD (Extra Replacement Screen)
Rosewill ATX Case
ASRock P43DE3 LGA 775 Intel P43 ATX Intel Motherboard


Complete Cost: $910
System Only $610 (Without Monitor)



Just checking to see if this is a good price for what i need and that everything is compatible. Open to suggestions.

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March 28, 2011 1:21:10 AM
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The Intel 775 platform is pretty much abandoned. I would not build a new system using it.

Even Intel 1156 is more current the CPU's are faster, and cheaper ..... but, it's being phased out but it's not nearly as dead as 775.

Intel's current platform is 1155, if you like Intel this is the way to go....

AMD is my preferred for a budget build. Plenty fast and no issues with the motherboard & it's socket being abandoned....

Select and AMD Athlon II 630 or 635, about $100. Or, move up to a AMD 955, about $140 and plenty fast for anything....

Everything else looks good....
March 28, 2011 1:34:36 AM

Well i do prefer to go with intel especially considering HT and using multiple clients. But from what I listed is there any way to get the price lower without losing performance I want to be able to run 5 clients without it lagging the system or windows freezing up.
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March 28, 2011 1:42:53 AM

by the way by socket LGA 1155 you mean i3/i5? My main pc is i7 920 oc'd 3.6ghz /w 6gb ddr3 radeon HD5780 was $2800 when i built it new over a year ago.

Was looking at the cpu's could get an i5 for about $40 but that would also mean needing to change the motherboard too not sure how much more that would be... since the pc is my secondary mainly for watching movies and multi boxing eve... plan on running 10+ accounts across 2 pc's its not super important that its top if the line because right now im replacing a nearly 7 year old P4 dell LOL
March 28, 2011 1:55:52 AM

AMD mentioned will be cheaper and plenty fast....about $200 -- $250

But, if you on to Intel; look at the i5-2400 or i5-2300 they will run circles around the Old Q8300...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You'll be about the same price with MB as your choices but far faster, and, if you need parts a year from now they still be available....

And, depending upon how fast you video needs to be, you might be okay with on-board video of either the AMD solution or Intel integrated video... and could drop the GPU card (hey, try it if video performance isn't good enough just add the card later..)



March 28, 2011 2:17:33 AM

Onboard video won't work. Infact don't know why anyone even uses it anymore unless your not really playing video games xD

Recommended system configuration for running EVE Online:
•OS: Windows® XP Service Pack 2 / Vista / 7
•CPU: Intel Pentium® or AMD dual core @ 2 Ghz or greater which supports SSE2
•RAM: 2 GB
•HD space: 6gig Free Space
•Network: ADSL connection or faster
•Video: 256 MB Shader Model 3.0 Graphics cards such as GeForce 8 class card or higher, ATi 3000 series or higher and Similar chips from other manufacturers
•Drivers: DirectX® 9.0c (included) and latest video drivers
•DVD-ROM : 2 speed DVD reader or greater required.

The minimum screen resolution for EVE is 1024x768.
Audio hardware must support SSE and be Direct Sound compatible. For optimum performance, use latest drivers available.
Please note that Windows 95, 98, ME, NT and 2000 are not supported.

with an i5 $189 and a different board that supports 1600 ddr3 which the first 3-4 boards are sold out it comes to about $100 more then the core 2 quad.
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 28, 2011 2:22:41 AM

^ Check out my siggy build for 600$, if you want intel. Change the CPU to a i5 2400 and the motherboard to an MSI P67A-G45.
March 28, 2011 2:39:41 AM

That board is showing 1600+ as OC only. What other choices would be good for standard ram support for 1600? Im not looking to OC this system going stock only.
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 28, 2011 3:30:50 AM

1600 is not even required. 1333 to 1600 has virtually no difference. You won't even benefit from it through gaming. 1600 has probably a 1 second - 2 second difference in archiving which is virtually nothing. More memory is better than less memory and a slower speed.
March 29, 2011 2:41:08 AM

So just check this over for me. This is the new build i've come up with wanna make sure its compatible... probably won't be building it for about another 4 months hopefully the prices will drop alittle bit more. Already have a hard drive and cables.

CASE:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MONITOR:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GRAPHICS CARD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

POWER SUPPLY:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOTHERBOARD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SHIPPING: $20.17


TOTAL: $1,089.93
S&H: $ 20.17
GRAND TOTAL: $1,110.10
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 29, 2011 2:48:54 AM

You doubled up on your Memory link. Just tell us the PSU your getting.

As for memory, why are you getting more expensive ram than you need to be getting?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rest looks solid, may want to use that 25$ saved from the Ram to get this instead though.
215$ AR (Cheaper, but louder): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
245$ (Better temps and fan noise): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 29, 2011 2:49:57 AM

I say go for the 6950 because @ 1920x1200, the GPU is really strained during gaming, many cards can't exactly keep up at that resolution. That is why I suggested going for the extra bit and getting the 6950 1GB.
March 29, 2011 2:59:13 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Whats the difference with the 6870 and 6950? my i7 has a 5870 there doesn't even seem to be a 5950 for the 5 series. did they change the cards for 6 series?



My 5870 has no problems at 19200 so i would think the next generation version would be even better wouldn't it?
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 29, 2011 3:15:08 AM

Looks good. But on that PSU, don't expect Crossfire support with 6950/6870. You'll need a minimum of 700 AT LEAST! In which case I'd recommend this PSU instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for the naming scheme. This is what it is basically.

5850 - 6850/6870
5870 - 6870/6950/6970
5970 - 6990

This just gives you an idea of where each would pair up. The 6850 and 6870 just fill the gaps within AMDs pricing for lower/mid end cards. The 6950/6970 perform much better than the 5870 because of newer arch and just new design and improvements. Hardly comparable. The closest comparable card would be 5870=6870.

Oh do you not turn up your Eyecandy all the way up? For most people 35-40 FPS is good enough, for me I want smooth performance of 60 or more. Which the 6950 does offer at 1920x1200. (Though looking @ the benches I see what you mean, but if you only pay 15$ more why not get more performance right?)

Here is what you would see for 5870 vs 6950 1GB
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/294?vs=331

The 6950 1gb basically = the 5870 and maybe a little bit more performance.
The new 69xx just have better performance/watt and better temps. Also the 69xx are quieter than the older 58xx. Not to mention the new 69xx have better DX11 perf and tess performance.
March 29, 2011 3:19:13 AM

I ran Entropia Universe on max settings at 19200 even with AA on and it ran fine. Thats using crysis 2 engine.


As a backup machine for running extra stuff like downloaded TV episodes, dual boxing or running multiple game clients for eve, it just needs to run the newest games decently or multiple eve clients it doesn't have to be top of the line, can't really afford another $2800 system right now xD
March 29, 2011 3:21:23 AM

yeah for $15 more thats not a problem just don't feel like paying $350-450 for a card thats all.


Its a good buy, $850 for a really good system compared to the prices a year and a half ago when i built the i7... the monitor im just replacing a smaller 21" dell LCD screen the power button is close to broken on, it sticks.
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 29, 2011 3:30:31 AM

Yep!
March 29, 2011 3:36:36 AM

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