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January 24, 2011 11:50:45 AM

Hi all, i have been reading lots of threads on here but cant say i am any clearer to the answer i am after. I play World of Warcraft, thats it, no other games. My PC is old, i can play WOW now fine no probs really but most video settings are turned right down. I have a bit of spare money coming my way and would like to buy a present for my old reliable PC.

Heres what i have from memory:
HP Pavilion T3000 PC
Windows XP
PCI express x16 slot
P4 3.2gig processor
4gb pc3200 DDR RAM (i have upgraded this from OEM)
22inch Samsung monitor - i think 1680 x 1050 resolution.
I think i currently have an ATI x300 card in there.

I dont really want to get involved in upgrading power supplies etc, its the standard one in there when i bought the PC

Now my kids usually take my money b4 i get a chance to spend it, so this should make a nice change :)  im looking to turn my graphics options up and enjoy wow graphicaly a bit more, some nice fps would be lovely, currently about 20 out of cities and 10 within, just about playable :) 

I could go to £150 ish, is that $240ish dollars?

Any help will be greatly appreciated :) 
January 24, 2011 11:58:09 AM

i think you should go for a hd5570 or hd5670.. not sure.. and they're both well under your price.. what power supply you have?
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January 24, 2011 12:00:17 PM

for your system I wouldn't go much higher than a gt 240 or a 5670
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January 24, 2011 12:10:26 PM

can you find a link to your pc specs? cause evey time i look up hp t 3000 i get a german only pc with a septeron not a p4 >_<

otherwise you can just post the table on the psu or list the wattage for a less accurate recomendation, don't want you to go spending 240 on a card if your cpu would bottlebeck ya at a 150ish price range
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January 24, 2011 12:12:39 PM

Also, i reckon you play at low res ( P4 and a sucky gpu ^^) 800x600 or ? and what gpu u have right now ? you said something like x300 series? an ati hd4350? i used to play WoW very stable on a q8200 and hd4350( low res ofc) .. so actually you should first upgrade your cpu ( if not only the cpu ) a hd5670 wont help you with your current system ( especially not in orgrimmar ^^ )
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January 24, 2011 1:38:47 PM

Hi kookueb its definitley 1680 x 1050 resolution i play at, its perfectly playable just low detail :) 
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January 24, 2011 1:40:54 PM

wow scales really well kookueb, my old 8500gt could play wow in medium settings and the 8500gt's were a joke... a terrible terrible joke of a card
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January 24, 2011 2:17:16 PM

you should tell your psu specs
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January 24, 2011 2:29:31 PM

For a P4 CPU, you can get a Radeon 4670, don't need anything higher. If your budget is USD 240, you can get a decent dual-core CPU and a 4670 card, as long as you have a 300ish wattage power supply, and your motherboard will work with a dual core CPU, and you know how to swap out CPUs. Otherwise, the 4670 will get you to over 20 fps in almost all areas with your 3.2 gig P4 and 4 gig of RAM.
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January 24, 2011 2:37:13 PM

9800gt and 400w psu + a dual core will cost around 240$
here is processor if your mobo supports
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
here is the power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and here is the graphics card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and if your budget suits,you can buy a new mobo aswell
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
i think whole setup will cost you around $240.this is best package you can have incuding gaming aswell.
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January 24, 2011 4:48:33 PM

Ok thanks for all the replies so fay, most helpful :) 

Ive finished work and opened up the PC to give some more info i was asked for:

Motherboard: Asus PTGD1-LA

Power supply: Bestec ATX-300-122 REV (Output 300w max)

Hope this helps :) 
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January 24, 2011 5:22:30 PM

The motherboard you have will not run dual core CPUs. However, the 4670 will be a good upgrade for you, and will be movable to a newer system if/when you get one.

Try just the video card, if you have crashes when using it, upgrade the power supply, but 300 watts should be enough to run it.
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January 24, 2011 6:00:13 PM

WoW doesn't take elite horsepower to play. Back in the day, i ran it on a P4 3.0 Prescott with 2gb RAM, a 7800GS, on high settings at 1280x1024 and it ran fluid smooth all day long. The game isn't very CPU intense. I recall sitting in Shattrath, with all the fog effects and such, still getting 60+ FPS, on my P4 3.0/7800GS setup. A 5670 would run the crap out of that game.
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January 24, 2011 6:38:58 PM

300 watt psu i'd go 5670 as stated by mav, should run on your psu just fine and would be a good match for your psu/cpu
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January 24, 2011 6:44:39 PM

g00fysmiley said:
300 watt psu i'd go 5670 as stated by mav, should run on your psu just fine and would be a good match for your psu/cpu

^+1 agreed
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January 24, 2011 7:12:32 PM

Best answer selected by westy1980.
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January 24, 2011 7:12:53 PM

Thanks all for your help very much, will go for the 5670 :) 
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January 24, 2011 7:20:44 PM

mavroxur said:
WoW doesn't take elite horsepower to play. Back in the day, i ran it on a P4 3.0 Prescott with 2gb RAM, a 7800GS, on high settings at 1280x1024 and it ran fluid smooth all day long. The game isn't very CPU intense. I recall sitting in Shattrath, with all the fog effects and such, still getting 60+ FPS, on my P4 3.0/7800GS setup. A 5670 would run the crap out of that game.


Toms did a test with the release of Catacombs that seems to contradict you.

As to OP, tests have shown that WoW runs best on nVidia cards, and the more VRAM the better, that said, the Radeon 5670 being suggested would suit your current setup fine.

Edit: heh and /thread as I was looking for the review,
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January 24, 2011 7:36:55 PM

^ maybe if nvidia came out with a card to compete with the 5670 that might be relevant... btu 440gt is oem only so it goes 5570 < 430 < 5670 < 440 (oem only so can't be reliably found) < 5750
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January 24, 2011 7:46:27 PM

mavroxur said:
WoW doesn't take elite horsepower to play. Back in the day, i ran it on a P4 3.0 Prescott with 2gb RAM, a 7800GS, on high settings at 1280x1024 and it ran fluid smooth all day long. The game isn't very CPU intense. I recall sitting in Shattrath, with all the fog effects and such, still getting 60+ FPS, on my P4 3.0/7800GS setup. A 5670 would run the crap out of that game.


I doubt a 5670 would run the crap out of it, it is probably the best choice for the op but don't get too excited about you rp4 system I doubt you could run it playable on any higher res than what you were doing those specs are pretty darn low
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January 24, 2011 7:47:27 PM

The op did not pick the best answer but I guess its up to the op to decide but what mavroxur wrote was a bit of an exaggeration no doubt
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January 24, 2011 10:25:57 PM

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