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July 1, 2004 12:17:24 AM

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At long last I have aquired BG2 + TOB and intend to dive into this
alleged masterpiece ;) . Can somebody tell me where to download all the
unnofficial patches, Acsencion and the all-romance patch (want to do
Jaheira and Aerie simultaneously ;)  ) ? Also, are there some NPC mods
that are so awesome that one just _has_ to try them? Thanks.

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Anonymous
July 1, 2004 1:56:45 AM

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Maia <maia.b@aon.at> wrote:
: At long last I have aquired BG2 + TOB and intend to dive into this
: alleged masterpiece ;) . Can somebody tell me where to download all the
: unnofficial patches, Acsencion and the all-romance patch (want to do
: Jaheira and Aerie simultaneously ;)  ) ? Also, are there some NPC mods
: that are so awesome that one just _has_ to try them? Thanks.

Modlist:

http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php?topic=22.0

I strongly discourage the use of the multiromance patch.

I'll let someone else come along and tell you whether or not you should
install Kelsey. :) 

--
Jason Compton jcompton@xnet.com
Anonymous
July 1, 2004 2:09:58 AM

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"Maia" <maia.b@aon.at> wrote in message
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> At long last I have aquired BG2 + TOB and intend to dive into this
> alleged masterpiece ;) . Can somebody tell me where to download all the
> unnofficial patches, Acsencion and the all-romance patch (want to do
> Jaheira and Aerie simultaneously ;)  ) ? Also, are there some NPC mods
> that are so awesome that one just _has_ to try them? Thanks.

Yes, there are NPCs that add quite a bit to the experience but at least
consider playing the game in its original form first. It's pretty good. If
you
then start slowly adding mods on it will be easier for you to determine
which you like and which you don't like - it could be quite difficult to
sort
things like this out if you've never played the game in its original state.

But I can't help commenting on one of my favs anyway -

Kelsey is a NPC who has a very good romance story for either the PC
or Imoen. Kelsey, to his credit, also has the most fearsome battle cry
you'd ever want to hear - "You have miscalculated!" During my last game
I believe Kelsey did actually cry at times - nonetheless, he's a fine
addition,
and the group was fond of him.

The all-romance patch you ask about is, I believe, titled multi-romance
and I think it's included in the Ease of Use mod at weidu.org. May I
make another suggestion? If you're absolutely set on installing a romance
mod then try instead the banter and/or flirt packs - the banter pack adds
additional dialogue between group members and the flirt pack, of course,
gives your PC new flirting opportunities.

weidu.org
pocketplane.net
baldurdash.org

are three places in particular that you should probably check out
as they will give you a huge amount of NPCs and tweaks/fixes and
revisions (such as ascension.)

Baldurdash has a huge amount of bug fixes and is the one thing that
should certainly be installed.

Don't forget to install the official ToB patch! The latest is 2.5 something.
I don't know whether any copies were released with the patch already
included.

Simple, incomplete install order culled from a similar listing
that comprised at least 80 lines:

ToB patch
Baldurdash fixpack
NPCs/Flirt Packs and whatever else as long as it's in weidu format

Good luck!
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July 1, 2004 5:02:15 PM

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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:09:58 GMT, "kevin"
<khiggins2@nyukhouston.rr.com> wrote:


>Yes, there are NPCs that add quite a bit to the experience but at least
>consider playing the game in its original form first. It's pretty good.

Unfortunately, I am not one of those people who replay a lot. If I
don't see it on my first or second play-through, the odds are that I'd
get tired of the game and won't see it at all. Acsencion reputedly
strongly enhances a somewhat lackluster endgame and is created by one
of the original designers, so it's practically official ;) .


>But I can't help commenting on one of my favs anyway -
>
>Kelsey is a NPC who has a very good romance story for either the PC
>or Imoen. Kelsey, to his credit, also has the most fearsome battle cry
>you'd ever want to hear - "You have miscalculated!" During my last game
>I believe Kelsey did actually cry at times - nonetheless, he's a fine
>addition,
>and the group was fond of him.

Sounds great. Would he and Anomen fight if I choose Kelsey, though? It
could be very annoying to find myself short a Cleric all of a sudden.
Is there some neutral/evil Fighter type NPC mod? I'd want to try an
evil game and there is a decided lack of a suitable offcial NPC.

>
>The all-romance patch you ask about is, I believe, titled multi-romance
>and I think it's included in the Ease of Use mod at weidu.org. May I
>make another suggestion? If you're absolutely set on installing a romance
>mod then try instead the banter and/or flirt packs - the banter pack adds
>additional dialogue between group members and the flirt pack, of course,
>gives your PC new flirting opportunities.

Great. Why are you against the multi-romance mod, though? I am
thinking that I'd last for 3 play-throughs, maximum and I plan for a
mostly good female, mostly good male and an evil male games. I'd like
to do both Jaheira's and Aerie's romances with the second and
Viconia's with the third ;) . So, does the mod introduce some bugs, or
what?


>NPCs/Flirt Packs and whatever else as long as it's in weidu format

Why is the format important?

Yes, and another thing. If you wanted to dual Yoshimo to a fighter,
what weapons specialisations would you take? I know, I know, nobody
does that, but he is the only official NPC that can be dualled and I
want to....

Thanks.
Anonymous
July 1, 2004 9:01:15 PM

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Maia <maia.b@aon.at> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:09:58 GMT, "kevin"
> <khiggins2@nyukhouston.rr.com> wrote:


> >Yes, there are NPCs that add quite a bit to the experience but at least
> >consider playing the game in its original form first. It's pretty good.

> Unfortunately, I am not one of those people who replay a lot. If I
> don't see it on my first or second play-through, the odds are that I'd
> get tired of the game and won't see it at all. Acsencion reputedly
> strongly enhances a somewhat lackluster endgame and is created by one
> of the original designers, so it's practically official ;) .

My suggestion is that you go light on the mods, even if
you don't plan on playing again. With only one time through
you won't have time to experience all the NPC interactions
anyway, as most of the interesting bits comes from how the
NPCs interact with each other or during a specific quest.

I would only add an NPC if you want to play a particular style
or with a class not normally available. Also, many of the mods
are designed to make the game more interesting for those who
have already played the game (Ease of Use and the Tatics mods
for example), and don't really add much for the first timer.

Personally I think that plain old BG2 with patches and
baldurdash is the best experience for a first timer. You will
never see everything there is anyway, so why bother adding
even more stuff you will never see.

> >But I can't help commenting on one of my favs anyway -
> >
> >Kelsey is a NPC who has a very good romance story for either the PC
> >or Imoen. Kelsey, to his credit, also has the most fearsome battle cry
> >you'd ever want to hear - "You have miscalculated!" During my last game
> >I believe Kelsey did actually cry at times - nonetheless, he's a fine
> >addition,
> >and the group was fond of him.

> Sounds great. Would he and Anomen fight if I choose Kelsey, though? It
> could be very annoying to find myself short a Cleric all of a sudden.
> Is there some neutral/evil Fighter type NPC mod? I'd want to try an
> evil game and there is a decided lack of a suitable offcial NPC.

Evil is also not all that interesting to play, because acting good,
even if you are not, is highly rewarded by the game engine, and most
of the 'evil' options are really just the stupid options.

Anomen will bitch about everybody and everything. He is kind of a
dick. He is however a pretty kick ass cleric, and with the the right
encouragement he might get over himself. He won't cause any real
problems with any of the others. Keldorn on the other hand...

> >The all-romance patch you ask about is, I believe, titled multi-romance
> >and I think it's included in the Ease of Use mod at weidu.org. May I
> >make another suggestion? If you're absolutely set on installing a romance
> >mod then try instead the banter and/or flirt packs - the banter pack adds
> >additional dialogue between group members and the flirt pack, of course,
> >gives your PC new flirting opportunities.

> Great. Why are you against the multi-romance mod, though? I am
> thinking that I'd last for 3 play-throughs, maximum and I plan for a
> mostly good female, mostly good male and an evil male games. I'd like
> to do both Jaheira's and Aerie's romances with the second and
> Viconia's with the third ;) . So, does the mod introduce some bugs, or
> what?

I would also suggest the banter pack instead of multi-romance.
Multi-romance is another of those 'bored veteran' mods.

> >NPCs/Flirt Packs and whatever else as long as it's in weidu format

> Why is the format important?

Weidu mods work well with other weidu mods. Other mods tend to
step on each other's toes.

> Yes, and another thing. If you wanted to dual Yoshimo to a fighter,
> what weapons specialisations would you take? I know, I know, nobody
> does that, but he is the only official NPC that can be dualled and I
> want to....

Katana of course. Also short bow. This is sub-optimal since you
will in effect lose the proficiencies he already has from his thief
class. But they are good weapons for him, and you can find some
pretty good magic weapons if you look around.

Let me be the first to say though that you *really* shouldn't do this.
Think of this as a BG2 intervention. We are all your friends here and
we think you have a problem... :-)

Good luck with the game!

Mark.
Anonymous
July 1, 2004 10:33:29 PM

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Spoilers (mostly slight) for Kelsey and potentially every other
aspect (modded or not) of the game
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"Maia" <maia.b@aon.at> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:09:58 GMT, "kevin"
> <khiggins2@nyukhouston.rr.com> wrote:
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> >Yes, there are NPCs that add quite a bit to the experience but at least
> >consider playing the game in its original form first. It's pretty good.
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> Unfortunately, I am not one of those people who replay a lot.

Ack.
I guess I just assume everyone's going to play it at least a
thousand times.

If I
> don't see it on my first or second play-through, the odds are that I'd
> get tired of the game and won't see it at all. Acsencion reputedly
> strongly enhances a somewhat lackluster endgame and is created by one
> of the original designers, so it's practically official ;) .

True enough.
I prefer Ascension to the original ToB but its endgame change is
IMO only a marginal upgrade. I'm sure though that many love it
and hopefully you will too. There's an improved dragon fight
however that's absolutely great.

> Sounds great. Would he and Anomen fight if I choose Kelsey, though?

I'm not sure if they ever actually fight or not. There is an moment
where you can urge them to fight over you but I've never chosen that
option. Hmm, I don't believe I've ever chosen Kelsey when Anomen
was included in the group - I prefer going the Kelsey/Imoen and PC/
Anomen (or whomever) route. I do know though that you can choose
Anomen and they'll both remain in the group.

And since you're most likely not going to play the game many times
and don't care about original content and whatnot then I also suggest
trying the Imoen Romance mod. The Imoen mod only affects Shadows
of Amn.

It
> could be very annoying to find myself short a Cleric all of a sudden.
> Is there some neutral/evil Fighter type NPC mod? I'd want to try an
> evil game and there is a decided lack of a suitable offcial NPC.

Yes! Valen is the most vile, loathsome, foul NPC you could ever
wish for. And better yet, she also happens to be evil! She is a Fighter
/Thief multiclass character who also happens to be a vampire. She
becomes very weak when outside in the daytime. I only mention
this because when I first included her in a group she became
immobile when the sun came up - some idiot (haha j/k) loaded her
down with 40 poisoned daggers which serve to literally root her to
the spot she is in - toss those daggers away!

Be aware though that Valen will repeatedly push the group into
fights that otherwise would be avoided.

::sigh:: I think though that it's unfortunately more a path of Stupidity
than it is of Evil. I'm talking about the game's conception of Evil now
and not referring to the Valen mod. But this isn't what you're asking
about and I see that Mark has beaten me to this comment anyway.

You're right though that there are very few evil NPCs in the game -
including the one you can pick up in ToB you can have a maximum
of 4 official evil characters in your group - 2 fighters, 1 cleric, and 1
mage and that's it. IOW, when you reach ToB you can almost field
a full group. OTOH they are all powerful characters and with Valen
added are particularly potent and capable of great mischief.

> >The all-romance patch you ask about is, I believe, titled multi-romance
> >and I think it's included in the Ease of Use mod at weidu.org. May I
> >make another suggestion? If you're absolutely set on installing a romance
> >mod then try instead the banter and/or flirt packs - the banter pack adds
> >additional dialogue between group members and the flirt pack, of course,
> >gives your PC new flirting opportunities.
>
> Great. Why are you against the multi-romance mod, though?

I've never tried it so I don't want to give the impression that I know
what I'm talking about.

I've heard that it can cause some problems with other mods or
perhaps even with the original game itself and this is why I cautioned
you against it. OTOH, I checked the Ease of Use mod readme and
it is an option in it so if it's really so destructive I don't know why it
would be included. I think I've seen warnings about it in other mods
but I'm just guessing here - read the readmes of whatever mods you
choose to install as they may mention mods that are known to cause
conflicts.

Personally though, I'm just not interested in having my character
romance multiple characters.

> >NPCs/Flirt Packs and whatever else as long as it's in weidu format
>
> Why is the format important?

ah jeez, this is out of my league now. I almost didn't include
the weidu format comment. The chance of you installing something
that is non-weidu is pretty slim, I think.

However, to be more sure - once you decide on which mods to
install you could then post it here and somebody who knows these
things could tell you whether you're ok or not.

> Yes, and another thing. If you wanted to dual Yoshimo to a fighter,
> what weapons specialisations would you take? I know, I know, nobody
> does that, but he is the only official NPC that can be dualled and I
> want to....

Do you know the reason why nobody duals him?


**this is a significant spoiler**
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Yoshimo will betray you and you're going to lose him before
he progresses too far in his new class (unless you take a very long
time to reach a certain part of the game.)

Actually, I have heard of a few scoundrels who have dual-classed
Yoshi right before he betrays the group so that he'll be easier to defeat.

How weak is that?!?!
Anonymous
July 2, 2004 10:08:54 AM

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Maia <maia.b@aon.at> wrote:

: Unfortunately, I am not one of those people who replay a lot. If I
: don't see it on my first or second play-through, the odds are that I'd
: get tired of the game and won't see it at all. Acsencion reputedly
: strongly enhances a somewhat lackluster endgame and is created by one
: of the original designers, so it's practically official ;) .

Ascension enhances the roleplay of a lackluster endgame, but substitutes
one combat cliche for another. In that way, it's very obvious that it's
from the same guy who gave us the TOB plot.

: Sounds great. Would he and Anomen fight if I choose Kelsey, though? It
: could be very annoying to find myself short a Cleric all of a sudden.
: Is there some neutral/evil Fighter type NPC mod? I'd want to try an
: evil game and there is a decided lack of a suitable offcial NPC.

Kelsey and Anomen do have a bit of a tiff, but them actually coming to
blows is avoidable, and yes, they'll both stick around unless you do
_really_ wrong by them.

: Great. Why are you against the multi-romance mod, though? I am
: thinking that I'd last for 3 play-throughs, maximum and I plan for a
: mostly good female, mostly good male and an evil male games. I'd like
: to do both Jaheira's and Aerie's romances with the second and
: Viconia's with the third ;) . So, does the mod introduce some bugs, or
: what?

Allegedly the latest incarnation of multiromance doesn't. All the
previous do. Because of this, I will basically flap my hands helplessly at
you if you run into bugs with other mods and you have multiromance
installed and I would encourage everyone else to do the same. :) 

: Yes, and another thing. If you wanted to dual Yoshimo to a fighter,
: what weapons specialisations would you take? I know, I know, nobody
: does that, but he is the only official NPC that can be dualled and I
: want to....

It's really not worth it. Yoshimo can already be leveled up to do crazy
backstab damage, and putting thief points into his special traps is loads
of fun too. I'd suggest you get the most out of a good thief rather than
try to make him into something else.

--
Jason Compton jcompton@xnet.com
Anonymous
July 2, 2004 10:11:13 AM

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Mark Haslam <mshaslam@drizzle.com> wrote:

: Anomen will bitch about everybody and everything. He is kind of a
: dick. He is however a pretty kick ass cleric, and with the the right
: encouragement he might get over himself. He won't cause any real
: problems with any of the others. Keldorn on the other hand...

You seem to be overlooking when he SPOILERS SPOILER and SPOILIE if he
SPOILERS.

: Weidu mods work well with other weidu mods. Other mods tend to
: step on each other's toes.

It's always a good idea to check the READMEs of what you're installing
before you commit, just to be sure there aren't any special order
instructions (which there sometimes are) but yes, in general, this is
true.

--
Jason Compton jcompton@xnet.com
July 2, 2004 1:20:17 PM

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On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:33:29 GMT, "kevin"
<khiggins2@nyukhouston.rr.com> wrote:

>Spoilers (mostly slight) for Kelsey and potentially every other
>aspect (modded or not) of the game
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>"Maia" <maia.b@aon.at> wrote in message
>news:nr28e05ot47gaq3j8v4n9ligkjjm0daqi9@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:09:58 GMT, "kevin"
>> <khiggins2@nyukhouston.rr.com> wrote:
>>
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>
>And since you're most likely not going to play the game many times
>and don't care about original content and whatnot then I also suggest
>trying the Imoen Romance mod. The Imoen mod only affects Shadows
>of Amn.

Nothing like a bit of incest, eh? I think that I'd play the male
romances as they are, though, since they are supposed to be quite
good. Unlike the female romance...


>It
>> could be very annoying to find myself short a Cleric all of a sudden.
>> Is there some neutral/evil Fighter type NPC mod? I'd want to try an
>> evil game and there is a decided lack of a suitable offcial NPC.
>
>Yes! Valen is the most vile, loathsome, foul NPC you could ever
>wish for. And better yet, she also happens to be evil! She is a Fighter
>/Thief multiclass character who also happens to be a vampire. She
>becomes very weak when outside in the daytime.

Very interesting. Of course, I intended to play a fighter/thief myself
in an evil game, but now I can go for that evil Skald I was thinking
about ;) .


>Be aware though that Valen will repeatedly push the group into
>fights that otherwise would be avoided.

Well, why not? Something different. There are enough "good" deeds that
I'd have to commit for gold and experience to balance the rep loss,
surely.


>
>I've heard that it can cause some problems with other mods or
>perhaps even with the original game itself and this is why I cautioned
>you against it.

OK, that's out, then. I have noticed that it has been removed from a
download on one of the sites due to the problems, too. No big deal. I
can miss on Aerie romance.


>However, to be more sure - once you decide on which mods to
>install you could then post it here and somebody who knows these
>things could tell you whether you're ok or not.

That's what I intend to install :

Official patch for TOB, Baldurdash gamefix pack and Acsencion in this
order. Is there any specific best order to install flirt pack, banter
pack and Kelsy which I also want to take?


>Do you know the reason why nobody duals him?

Yes. But if I intend to complete everything available to me in the
first chapters before moving on and my PC is a swashbuckler, there is
little point to another thief. OTOH, given the D&D level structure it
shouldn't take long for Yoshimo to get the same level as everybody
else as a fighter. I don't really care all that much if gets his
thief abilities back or not. BTW, isn't it a pity that there aren't
more dual-able NPCs in BG2?
Anonymous
July 2, 2004 4:42:28 PM

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Maia wrote:

> That's what I intend to install :
>
> Official patch for TOB, Baldurdash gamefix pack and Acsencion in this
> order. Is there any specific best order to install flirt pack, banter
> pack and Kelsy which I also want to take?

No, just put them on in any order, following Ascension.
Anonymous
July 2, 2004 4:55:19 PM

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"Maia" <maia.b@aon.at> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:33:29 GMT, "kevin"
> <khiggins2@nyukhouston.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >"Maia" <maia.b@aon.at> wrote in message
> >news:nr28e05ot47gaq3j8v4n9ligkjjm0daqi9@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:09:58 GMT, "kevin"
> >> <khiggins2@nyukhouston.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
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> >And since you're most likely not going to play the game many times
> >and don't care about original content and whatnot then I also suggest
> >trying the Imoen Romance mod. The Imoen mod only affects Shadows
> >of Amn.
>
> Nothing like a bit of incest, eh?

Haha, I guess it's not quite the enticement that polygamy is.

BTW, the Imoen Romance adds some nice scenes and dialogues
even when your character isn't involved in a romance with her.

Be aware though that romance mods are unaware of other
romance mods in the sense at least that these characters will not
banter with each other. For example, the Imoen mod has a scene
where Imoen talks to all the group members and if you have Kelsey
installed she will not talk to him just as she wouldn't to Valen or to
any other mod-created character.

I think that I'd play the male
> romances as they are, though, since they are supposed to be quite
> good. Unlike the female romance...

I like the Anomen romance, but I know that many do not.
I think a majority of the complaints about him though are directed
more towards his attitude than to the romance itself, but perhaps
these aspects blend together for some.

If you're going to skip a romance then I would suggest dropping
the Jaheira romance as it takes the longest time to complete. I
recently finished it for the first time and was only able to do so by
pausing the game at intervals so that the 'lovetalk clock' would move
along. Of course, I've played the game a lot and most likely I
progress through it at a faster pace than you will, being new to it -
still, it is a very long romance. It's pretty good though.

Here's a Jaheira Romance question -

is there a ToB Jaheira romance?

A few times throughout ToB the game would recognize that
my character was in a romance with Jaheira but there were no
lovetalks. The character epilogues also considered my character
to be ina romance with her and the flirt pack still gave me flirt
options with her - but no actual lovetalks.

If you don't finish the Jaheira romance in SoA do the remaining
lovetalks carry over to ToB?

> Very interesting. Of course, I intended to play a fighter/thief myself
> in an evil game, but now I can go for that evil Skald I was thinking
> about ;) .
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> >Be aware though that Valen will repeatedly push the group into
> >fights that otherwise would be avoided.
>
> Well, why not? Something different. There are enough "good" deeds that
> I'd have to commit for gold and experience to balance the rep loss,
> surely.

Yeah, it makes sense that the group will be pushed into things when
she's in the group - I'm just saying that Valen expects your group to
be truly evil so don't count much on any neutral characters hanging
around for long - it's probably possible for some to remain with the
group but I think it's very unlikely for that to happen on a first time
through the mod.

> That's what I intend to install :
>
> Official patch for TOB, Baldurdash gamefix pack and Acsencion in this
> order.

ok

>Is there any specific best order to install flirt pack, banter
> pack and Kelsy which I also want to take?

AFAIK, there is no best order to install them as they are all weidu.

Jason Compton made all three, and seeing as how he's
following this thread, he can tell you if I'm wrong.

> >Do you know the reason why nobody duals him?
>
> Yes.

Then to answer your question - I'd probably keep him with katanas.
Anonymous
July 3, 2004 12:22:24 AM

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kevin <khiggins2@nyukhouston.rr.com> wrote:

: Be aware though that romance mods are unaware of other
: romance mods in the sense at least that these characters will not
: banter with each other. For example, the Imoen mod has a scene
: where Imoen talks to all the group members and if you have Kelsey
: installed she will not talk to him just as she wouldn't to Valen or to
: any other mod-created character.

Right. Just to avoid confusion, however, keep in mind that Kelsey WILL
talk to Imoen about other things. Just nothing that has anything to do
with the romance mod.

: Here's a Jaheira Romance question -

: is there a ToB Jaheira romance?

Yes.

: A few times throughout ToB the game would recognize that
: my character was in a romance with Jaheira but there were no
: lovetalks. The character epilogues also considered my character
: to be ina romance with her and the flirt pack still gave me flirt
: options with her - but no actual lovetalks.

Very odd. But yes.

: If you don't finish the Jaheira romance in SoA do the remaining
: lovetalks carry over to ToB?

Nope.

:>Is there any specific best order to install flirt pack, banter
:> pack and Kelsy which I also want to take?

: AFAIK, there is no best order to install them as they are all weidu.

: Jason Compton made all three, and seeing as how he's
: following this thread, he can tell you if I'm wrong.

Correct, the install order between these three does not matter.

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