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Spoilers (mostly slight) for Kelsey and potentially every other
aspect (modded or not) of the game
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"Maia" <maia.b@aon.at> wrote in message
news:nr28e05ot47gaq3j8v4n9ligkjjm0daqi9@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:09:58 GMT, "kevin"
> <khiggins2@nyukhouston.rr.com> wrote:
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> >Yes, there are NPCs that add quite a bit to the experience but at least
> >consider playing the game in its original form first. It's pretty good.
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> Unfortunately, I am not one of those people who replay a lot.
Ack.
I guess I just assume everyone's going to play it at least a
thousand times.
If I
> don't see it on my first or second play-through, the odds are that I'd
> get tired of the game and won't see it at all. Acsencion reputedly
> strongly enhances a somewhat lackluster endgame and is created by one
> of the original designers, so it's practically official
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True enough.
I prefer Ascension to the original ToB but its endgame change is
IMO only a marginal upgrade. I'm sure though that many love it
and hopefully you will too. There's an improved dragon fight
however that's absolutely great.
> Sounds great. Would he and Anomen fight if I choose Kelsey, though?
I'm not sure if they ever actually fight or not. There is an moment
where you can urge them to fight over you but I've never chosen that
option. Hmm, I don't believe I've ever chosen Kelsey when Anomen
was included in the group - I prefer going the Kelsey/Imoen and PC/
Anomen (or whomever) route. I do know though that you can choose
Anomen and they'll both remain in the group.
And since you're most likely not going to play the game many times
and don't care about original content and whatnot then I also suggest
trying the Imoen Romance mod. The Imoen mod only affects Shadows
of Amn.
It
> could be very annoying to find myself short a Cleric all of a sudden.
> Is there some neutral/evil Fighter type NPC mod? I'd want to try an
> evil game and there is a decided lack of a suitable offcial NPC.
Yes! Valen is the most vile, loathsome, foul NPC you could ever
wish for. And better yet, she also happens to be evil! She is a Fighter
/Thief multiclass character who also happens to be a vampire. She
becomes very weak when outside in the daytime. I only mention
this because when I first included her in a group she became
immobile when the sun came up - some idiot (haha j/k) loaded her
down with 40 poisoned daggers which serve to literally root her to
the spot she is in - toss those daggers away!
Be aware though that Valen will repeatedly push the group into
fights that otherwise would be avoided.
::sigh:: I think though that it's unfortunately more a path of Stupidity
than it is of Evil. I'm talking about the game's conception of Evil now
and not referring to the Valen mod. But this isn't what you're asking
about and I see that Mark has beaten me to this comment anyway.
You're right though that there are very few evil NPCs in the game -
including the one you can pick up in ToB you can have a maximum
of 4 official evil characters in your group - 2 fighters, 1 cleric, and 1
mage and that's it. IOW, when you reach ToB you can almost field
a full group. OTOH they are all powerful characters and with Valen
added are particularly potent and capable of great mischief.
> >The all-romance patch you ask about is, I believe, titled multi-romance
> >and I think it's included in the Ease of Use mod at weidu.org. May I
> >make another suggestion? If you're absolutely set on installing a romance
> >mod then try instead the banter and/or flirt packs - the banter pack adds
> >additional dialogue between group members and the flirt pack, of course,
> >gives your PC new flirting opportunities.
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> Great. Why are you against the multi-romance mod, though?
I've never tried it so I don't want to give the impression that I know
what I'm talking about.
I've heard that it can cause some problems with other mods or
perhaps even with the original game itself and this is why I cautioned
you against it. OTOH, I checked the Ease of Use mod readme and
it is an option in it so if it's really so destructive I don't know why it
would be included. I think I've seen warnings about it in other mods
but I'm just guessing here - read the readmes of whatever mods you
choose to install as they may mention mods that are known to cause
conflicts.
Personally though, I'm just not interested in having my character
romance multiple characters.
> >NPCs/Flirt Packs and whatever else as long as it's in weidu format
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> Why is the format important?
ah jeez, this is out of my league now. I almost didn't include
the weidu format comment. The chance of you installing something
that is non-weidu is pretty slim, I think.
However, to be more sure - once you decide on which mods to
install you could then post it here and somebody who knows these
things could tell you whether you're ok or not.
> Yes, and another thing. If you wanted to dual Yoshimo to a fighter,
> what weapons specialisations would you take? I know, I know, nobody
> does that, but he is the only official NPC that can be dualled and I
> want to....
Do you know the reason why nobody duals him?
**this is a significant spoiler**
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well ok, if you really don't care about being spoiled
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turn away! turn away!
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Yoshimo will betray you and you're going to lose him before
he progresses too far in his new class (unless you take a very long
time to reach a certain part of the game.)
Actually, I have heard of a few scoundrels who have dual-classed
Yoshi right before he betrays the group so that he'll be easier to defeat.
How weak is that?!?!
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