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$400 budget- gpu + psu ????

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January 24, 2011 3:04:55 PM

I was thinking on getting a 6850 with a 650tx psu but I was wonering if I should wait for the gtx 560 to come out and see if I can fit it in a $400 budget.

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a c 595 U Graphics card
January 24, 2011 6:11:36 PM

The GTX560 ~$280 + a really nice PSU ~$100 should set you up well tomorrow when the card is released.
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January 24, 2011 6:14:09 PM

what psu do you recommend?
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January 25, 2011 4:23:16 AM

kevmachine said:
what psu do you recommend?

Are you kidding me?I GAVE YOU A LINK OF GTX 480 WITH CORSAIR POWERSUPPLY.ITS ALWAYS BETTER THAN GTX 560 MAN.you are really strange.!!!
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January 25, 2011 4:24:31 AM

there is a 100 core difference between gtx 560 and gtx 480.you can never get more bang for bucks than that gtx 480.
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January 25, 2011 4:57:57 AM

mrjericho1991 said:
there is a 100 core difference between gtx 560 and gtx 480.you can never get more bang for bucks than that gtx 480.

Core difference don't matter man, architecture is were it counts. That PSU was coolermaster too. The GTX480 was open box, no refund and no promises everything is even there. I would get the GTX 560 and a good PSU. When the time comes, SLI.
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a b U Graphics card
January 25, 2011 8:16:06 AM

hostiledonut is right
GTX 480 has heating problem.
I am sure no one wants to fry egg in their cabinet and yeah what about sound? my god, it sounds like a jet taking off..
why waste money? better go with gtx560
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January 25, 2011 4:00:03 PM

mrjericho1991 said:
common now gtx 560 is nowhere comparable to gtx 480.you got more for less with 480.gtx 560 is newer card,i know but what a pathetic excuse of having heating problems.gtx 480 is 2nd fastest gpu out there.
check this benchmark list out.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/12/15/at...


It's not worth it. There's just too much of heat. 480 is a bad implementation, and while it might be capable of giving good rates, but good luck trying to keep it quiet and cool enough.
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a c 595 U Graphics card
January 25, 2011 4:09:02 PM

Why do you guys always worry about heat? 82c vs 92c is not a big deal when the chip was designed to work that way. Noise, something that can actually make an impact on your user experience, is a bigger concern with the GTX480.
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a b U Graphics card
January 25, 2011 4:43:09 PM

mrjericho1991 said:
common now gtx 560 is nowhere comparable to gtx 480.you got more for less with 480.gtx 560 is newer card,i know but what a pathetic excuse of having heating problems.gtx 480 is 2nd fastest gpu out there.
check this benchmark list out.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/12/15/at...

GTX 480 is not second best. There are ATI and Nvidia cards that beat it. hd5970, hd6970, gtx 580, gtx570 is basically the same thing.
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January 26, 2011 4:34:06 AM

but we all know that hd 5970 is a dual gpu.gtx 6970 is beaten by gtx 480 in almost every benchmark.and however i am not talking about gtx 570 or 580.i know they are new chips.that is why you should never call gtx 480 in a single gpu competetion.gtx 480 is just 10% slower that gtx 580.so its way to go.heat is not a concern guys.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 4:51:13 AM

mrjericho1991 said:
gtx 6970 is beaten by gtx 480 in almost every benchmark
The HD6970 is faster then the GTX 480 on average;

You could be right about the GTX 6970 though :p 
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a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 4:53:10 AM

mrjericho1991 that CM PSU u keep linking is not very good, it doesnt have a very string 12v rail for its rating (only 52A) and it doesn't even pass the basic 80plus specification.

SO u are combining a power inefficient GPu and with a power inefficient PSU.

For a GPU I recommend a 6870. And for PSU I recommend a NZXT Hale90. The 650W should do just fine!
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January 26, 2011 5:05:26 AM

yeah and that is just because of memory.500 mb increase however it is still a awesome choice.you guys said about psu here is psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
you can even check how good gtx 480 is.it defeats hd 5870 and has every thing a gamer wants.if you still wont listen at my recommendation then its on you whatever you want to buy.gtx 480 is still a respected gpu from nvidia anyhow.
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a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 5:34:49 AM

^ +1 Yes, that would be good. With a 850w PSU like that, you could SLI in the future.
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a c 376 U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 5:38:55 AM

Why is everyone recommending the GTX 560 when his budget allows for significantly better cards? I don't get it. Even if you are all Nvidia fans he can likely squeeze GTX 570 and a workable PSU under $400.
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a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 5:56:13 AM

Yeah, I think I agree with jyjjy. Get something like a corsair 650w and a GTX 570.
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a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 6:14:58 AM

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I think the 560 is perfect for him and the 850W XFX i also linked is perfect down the road. He doesn't need a 570

There is no overkill. ;)  Also, before you said that he shouldn't get a GTX 570 because of his $400 budget. I think you are just protecting what you said in the first place. A GTX 570 performs better and is more future-proof. Get the GTX 570 and a corsair 550w. I own a 600w OCZ StealthXstream PSU and it is very good. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... I got mine for $30 on sale. :D 
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a c 376 U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 7:41:04 AM

lol
I like how you jumped on the GTX 570 idea and try to shove a PSU in under $400(possible) rather than acknowledge the HD6950s existence. :p  It seems like the obvious choice to me to grab one while they are still unlockable considering the budget.
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January 26, 2011 8:03:48 AM

jyjjy said:
pambaboy said:
Because we can't squeeze in a 570 and a 50 dollar PSU :) 


lol
I like how you jumped on the GTX 570 idea and try to shove a PSU in under $400(possible) rather than acknowledge the HD6950s existence. :p  It seems like the obvious choice to me to grab one while they are still unlockable considering the budget.

AMD fanboy... :pfff: 

AMD's drivers, AA support and 3D sucks. AMD cards give you a few more fps than the competitive nVidia cards by not processing each image properly; and these flaws will become more and more significant in the future.
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January 26, 2011 4:12:20 PM

andy5174 said:
lol
I like how you jumped on the GTX 570 idea and try to shove a PSU in under $400(possible) rather than acknowledge the HD6950s existence. :p  It seems like the obvious choice to me to grab one while they are still unlockable considering the budget.

AMD fanboy... :pfff: 

AMD's drivers, AA support and 3D sucks. AMD cards give you a few more fps than the competitive nVidia cards by not processing each image properly; and these flaws will become more and more significant in the future.[/quotemsg]


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January 26, 2011 4:14:01 PM

jyjjy said:
lol
I like how you jumped on the GTX 570 idea and try to shove a PSU in under $400(possible) rather than acknowledge the HD6950s existence. :p  It seems like the obvious choice to me to grab one while they are still unlockable considering the budget.

Yeah, I guess that was an option. I don't know why I didn't think of that, I like AMD more anyway.
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January 26, 2011 4:17:18 PM

Up twice, It didn't do my message right. So, here is what I was going to say. You fail. AMD cards are great. I think that you are the fan-boy. AMD has new AA, I think it is MSAA, but don't quote me on that. It beats the Nvidia AA, just by a little though. It still wins, you said that it was lower end AA.
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January 26, 2011 4:39:45 PM

Yes, seasonic is great, but why not get a cheaper Corsair that does the same thing? Corsair is great. Just as solid too.
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January 26, 2011 4:43:59 PM

HostileDonut said:
Up twice, It didn't do my message right. So, here is what I was going to say. You fail. AMD cards are great. I think that you are the fan-boy. AMD has new AA, I think it is MSAA, but don't quote me on that. It beats the Nvidia AA, just by a little though. It still wins, you said that it was lower end AA.

Endless fail, AMD fanboy.

Read the tech details instead of "fps" benchmarks only. I don't mind losing a few fps by choosing nVidia for better imaging and proper AA.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4061/amds-radeon-hd-6970-...
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The third change we saw was the introduction of a new anti-aliasing mode, initially launched on the 6800 series and backported to the 5800 series shortly thereafter. Morphological Anti-Aliasing (MLAA) is a post-processing filter that works on any (and all) images, looking for high contrast edges (jaggies) and blending them to reduce the contrast. Implemented as a compute shader, it works with all games. As it’s a post-processing filter the results can vary – the filter has no knowledge of depth, polygons, or other attributes of the rendered world beyond the final image – so it’s prone to blending everything that looks like aliasing. On the plus side it’s cheap to use as it was originally designed for consoles with their limited resources, so by not consuming large amounts of memory & memory bandwidth like SSAA/MSAA it usually has a low performance hit.

More performance by not processing AA properly!

Endless fail, AMD fanboy.
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a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 4:48:58 PM

god knows where these mrjericho1991 and all comes from..

@ op:
follow what others said..
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a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 4:52:10 PM

Ummm, you are a hypocrite. You are an Nvidia fan boy. Um, it uses less memory = better, better FPS = better. It depends on how you look at it. It doesn't process it the "wrong" way, just a different way. Anandtech.com is bias toward Intel and Nvidia. So, you might wanna get someone to look at it that gives a un-bias opinion. I think you are a, "endless fail". :lol: 
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January 26, 2011 4:54:21 PM

HostileDonut said:
Ummm, you are a hypocrite. You are an Nvidia fan boy. Um, it uses less memory = better, better FPS = better. It depends on how you look at it. It doesn't process it the "wrong" way, just a different way. Anandtech.com is bias toward Intel and Nvidia. So, you might wanna get someone to look at it that gives a un-bias opinion. I think you are a, "endless fail". :lol: 

According to your nonsense, THG is also biased. Go somewhere else if you think TOM and Anandtech is biased.





With merely DX9, nVidia is able to match the image quality of AMD cards with DX11.

Endless fail, AMD fanboy.
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January 26, 2011 4:58:18 PM

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XFX 850W is just a Seasonic PSU with an XFX body

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Plus the Seasonic looks like ass compared to the XFX



Well you've got a point there, all the xfx psu i've seen looked like s h i t but that one seams decent the only counter I have on this is that it's a bronze 80% not silver 85% like the SS-850HT.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
might not look bad ass but it will perform.
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a c 595 U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 4:58:26 PM

Since the original question was whether to go for a 6850 or a 560, the obvious choice is the GTX560 if you have the budget, which you do. Reviews show the 560 easily beats both the 6850 and 6870. The main advantages of the 560 are it's overclockability which delivers 90%-100% scaling effectiveness, and it's abilty to max out and still remain quiet and cool. In fact, $400 will cover the cost of a 560, plus a nice PSU and also cover tax, shipping, etc.
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January 26, 2011 4:58:28 PM

I do not know were you got that picture, but when I play, my games look NOTHING like that. I use an AMD hd6850. So, I think you still fail. The hd6950 unlocked into a hd6970 is great idea. You save $100 and get the same performance. I think that picture must be taken from like the worst game ever, because my games look nothing like that. AMD > Nvidia.
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January 26, 2011 5:01:24 PM

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matto17secs wrote:
Um, it uses less memory = better, better FPS = better


YES, BY NOT PROCESSING IMAGES PROPERLY.

AGAIN
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I don't mind losing a few fps by choosing nVidia for better imaging and proper AA.
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a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 5:03:28 PM

Most games do not look like that though. I own an Nvidia and an AMD card. They look the same. Maybe, if you really got down to it, you could see a small difference, but that picture is a very rare thing. I know, I own them both.
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January 26, 2011 5:04:34 PM

HostileDonut said:
I do not know were you got that picture, but when I play, my games look NOTHING like that. I use an AMD hd6850. So, I think you still fail. The hd6950 unlocked into a hd6970 is great idea. You save $100 and get the same performance. I think that picture must be taken from like the worst game ever, because my games look nothing like that. AMD > Nvidia.

From Tom's Hardsware.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/aliens-vs-predator-...

We don't care the opinion of a fanboy who hits the wall all the time.


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AMD > Nvidia

Typical fanboy reply.
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a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 5:06:38 PM

Okay, two pictures, whooop deee dooo. It really means nothing. Plus, the differences on most games are minimal. AND WHY NOT SAVE $100?!?!
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a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 5:08:09 PM

I am going to stop arguing now, we each have our opinions.
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January 26, 2011 5:09:27 PM

HostileDonut said:
Okay, two pictures, whooop deee dooo. It really means nothing. Plus, the differences on most games are minimal.


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AMD has new AA, I think it is MSAA, but don't quote me on that. It beats the Nvidia AA, just by a little though. It still wins, you said that it was lower end AA.

FAIL

Your opinions are based on imaginary, whereas, mine based on tests in reviews.
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January 26, 2011 5:17:12 PM

HostileDonut said:
Okay, two pictures, whooop deee dooo. It really means nothing. Plus, the differences on most games are minimal. AND WHY NOT SAVE $100?!?!

AMD must offered you $100 discount for being their fanboy.

GTX560 costs $10 less than 6950(1GB) for the rest of us!

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a b U Graphics card
January 26, 2011 5:20:24 PM

I really do not think that you get that you CAN UNLOCK and hd6950 in to a hd6970. Why are you making fun of me for liking AMD more? You like Nvidia more. You are a hypocrite.
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January 26, 2011 5:26:34 PM

HostileDonut said:
I really do not think that you get that you CAN UNLOCK and hd6950 in to a hd6970. Why are you making fun of me for liking AMD more? You like Nvidia more. You are a hypocrite.

hypocrite? nah, you are just an ignorant noob who keeps showing off ignorance.

You don't even know that 6970 and 6950 have different power design.

6970 requires one 8-pin and one 6-pin, while 6950 requires merely two 6-pin.

Go unlock it and have the headache in the future like my friends who unlocked PII X2 555.
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