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March 29, 2011 4:55:29 AM

Hello, :hello: 

I need to build a computer for 500 hundred dollars that will play world of Warcraft good. This is for my cousin but I am building it for him. I have a 1700 dollar build so I know very little about budget pc's I don't want a computer that will barely make the cut but I don't want an overkill either.

Me, and him barely play any graphic intense games. We play mainly WoW, AoE, and minor RPG's. But he is barely pulling 30 fps with his current laptop. I came up with a build, and was wondering if he could turn the graphics on medium with it, and still get a solid 40-50 fps in WoW! Help me out here give me any feed back or estimates on FPS! :( 


CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(I'm pretty sure WoW can Only use 2 cores, and it has a decent clock speed so it should be fast enough right?)

Motherboard: MSI AM3 AMD 770 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $90 ($80 with mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(It has the core un-locker, and was hoping to get this up to a triple, or even 4 core if possible)

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 ($50)
(we are going to be running XP so 4 gigabytes is going to be the max supported memory anyway)

GPU:XFX HD Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 ($115)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(Anything more than this is an overkill for WoW isn't it?)

PSU:XFX Core Edition PRO450W SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply $55(45 with mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case:NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ($90)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(although it is expensive it is so attractive I want it!)

Optical: LG Dvd 24x burner ($20)

I went with an After market cooler cause people say the stock ones are crap so this is the one I have for my PC, and keeps it at Idle 32C for an I7 that's Impressive

XIGMATEK Intel Core i7 compatible Dark Knight $45 ($25 with mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I have an old 5400rpm Hard drive with windows XP home that we are using for, an OS, and Storage 320 gigs

Now I know there are few things that can be changed like the case but for the most part i'm thinking it's a decent build for the money. For $520 you can't go wrong right? Any Suggestions on the specs?




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a b B Homebuilt system
March 29, 2011 12:33:52 PM

do you live near a micro center or a Fry's electronics?

if you aren't so attached to that case (I do like NZXT cases) here is a deal for you:

you should get a new HD and no trust the slower (older) one you have so I included it. also the HD 5770 is only only a little more $ and is a much better GPU. the combo has a much better CPU in it than you were looking at. for just a little more. you might even be able to unlock the additional processor cores in it and end up with an x4 at an x2 price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...
Antec One Hundred :$49.99
GIGABYTE GA-870A-UD3 :$104.99
Antec EA-500D Green :$59.99
AMD HDZ555WFGMBOX :$89.99
G.SKILL F3-10666CL9D-4GBNQ :$44.99
Combined Total:$349.95
Combo Discounts:-$31.96
Combo Price: $317.99

ADD GPU
SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100283VX-2L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support ...
Item #: N82E16814102898
-$5.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$134.99
$129.99
Add HD
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152181
$49.99
Add CD/DVD
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135204
$18.99
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$516.96 and a $20 mail-in rebate

I'll work on a solution that involves the NZXT case.....
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March 29, 2011 2:56:26 PM

The Athlon II X2's don't unlock need a Athlon II X3 or a Phenom II X2 or X3 for a chance to unlock cores. I would recommend something like this if u want that case and want to stay under $500:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... NZXT Apollo Black $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... AMD Athlon II X3 450 $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5770 $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500GB $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Antec Basiq 430W $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Sony Optiarc Black $20

Total $525 plus shipping $13 for $538 but use promo codes: EMCKGHA25 EMCKGHA66 EMCKGHA92 and SAP57DS and you are at 497.71 shipped plus $35 in MIR. :) 
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a b B Homebuilt system
March 29, 2011 3:01:09 PM

here is the Apollo build:

NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811146025
$89.99

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135204
$18.99

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136073
-$10.00 Instant
$49.99
$39.99

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128451
-$5.00 Instant
$78.99
$73.99

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100283VX-2L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support ...
Item #: N82E16814102898
-$5.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$134.99
$129.99

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 CMPSU-430CX 430W ATX12V Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139017
-$10.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$49.99
$39.99

Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
Item #: N82E16820146748
$39.99

AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz Socket AM3 80W C3 Revision HDZ555WFGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103846
$89.99
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$522.92 - $40 Mail-in Rebates + about $13 shipping from www.newegg.com to both east and west coasts.


The only upgrade I think you consider is +$10 for a bigger PSU the Corsair 430W will definately power the system, but it doesn't leave much room for upgrades and maybe OC'ing. I stay will quality PSU's Antec, Corsair, Seasonic stay away from no-name brands and Rosewill (will-fail)

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 (CMPSU-500CX) 500W ATX12V v2.3 Active PFC Power Supply
N82E16817139018
$49.99
I think it has a $10 mail-in rebate also

I think this is your best solution.
good CPU for budget gaming
good GPu for budget gaming
quality PSU
good RAM
New HD
new DVD

hope this advice helps
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a b B Homebuilt system
March 29, 2011 3:06:57 PM

imaurer269 said:
The Athlon II X2's don't unlock need a Athlon II X3 or a Phenom II X2 or X3 for a chance to unlock cores. I would recommend something like this if u want that case and want to stay under


Actually there is a chance on this particular CPU to unlock the 2 dormant cores.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://itshootout.com/r-336/amd-phenom-ii-x2-555-black-...
http://www.pureoverclock.com/article905.html

it's a good CPU even with 2 cores.
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March 29, 2011 3:29:31 PM

Yes is a chance on unlocking but I wouldn't count on it I have gone 0/6 on unlocking in the last 3 months, tried 2 Phenom 555's a 560 and three Athlon II X3's. Only one of the X3's would boot after turning on the ACC/UCC option and that one wasn't stable under load even after I pushed up the voltage and under clocked it. The 555 is a nice CPU even if you don't get unlucky and unlock I agree. Just have to decide if you want 2 or 3 guaranteed cores.
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March 29, 2011 7:17:38 PM

I see where you guys are going with the Athlon. I think i'm going with the Phenom ii x2
The power supply is actually really good if you look at the specs. It is "XFX" so it is not a no name brand, plus it's not exactly cheap either! From the reviews not very many people got bad ones. But I see what your saying I trust Corsair with my life I have there ram, SS-D's, H70, and 800D. But some reviews said the cheaper corsair ones were burning up, and my cousin is 13 (very spacey, and careless), and I don't want to be responsible for the burning down of his house, or worse case his death because he left his PC on for a month straight! XD

I was just wondering if that graphics card, with this CPU will Play World of Warcraft at a 1920:1080P on lower/mid graphics willel maintaining 40-60 frames per second.

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March 29, 2011 7:34:18 PM

jerreddredd said:
here is the Apollo build:

NZXT Apollo Black SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811146025
$89.99

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135204
$18.99

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136073
-$10.00 Instant
$49.99
$39.99

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128451
-$5.00 Instant
$78.99
$73.99

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100283VX-2L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support ...
Item #: N82E16814102898
-$5.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$134.99
$129.99

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 CMPSU-430CX 430W ATX12V Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139017
-$10.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$49.99
$39.99

Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
Item #: N82E16820146748
$39.99

AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz Socket AM3 80W C3 Revision HDZ555WFGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103846
$89.99
---------
$522.92 - $40 Mail-in Rebates + about $13 shipping from www.newegg.com to both east and west coasts.


The only upgrade I think you consider is +$10 for a bigger PSU the Corsair 430W will definately power the system, but it doesn't leave much room for upgrades and maybe OC'ing. I stay will quality PSU's Antec, Corsair, Seasonic stay away from no-name brands and Rosewill (will-fail)

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 (CMPSU-500CX) 500W ATX12V v2.3 Active PFC Power Supply
N82E16817139018
$49.99
I think it has a $10 mail-in rebate also

I think this is your best solution.
good CPU for budget gaming
good GPu for budget gaming
quality PSU
good RAM
New HD
new DVD

hope this advice helps
This is a nice build, and will work good thanks this maybe the solution to our problem, although I may go with the XFX PSU. Do you play World of Warcraft do you think you could get me an estimate on fps on a 1920:1080p monitor. (I have only had a really cheap build, and a expensive build so I have no idea) Also That RAM is a bit cheap I may pay a bit more for some nice G.Skill. I am paying for it so $50 more is not a big deal! :D  His laptop was giving him 10fps on low in Raids Considering he is a healer That is not good cause, a few good hit to me(being a warrior Tank) could kill me, and due to his lag he can't realize it in time (which has happened numerous times)
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March 29, 2011 7:52:54 PM

processor-pro said:


I was just wondering if that graphics card, with this CPU will Play World of Warcraft at a 1920:1080P on lower/mid graphics willel maintaining 40-60 frames per second.


The 5770 should be ok but if you are worried and it sounds like you are the step up to the GTX 460 might be worth it here are a few benchmarks of the two cards from the new expansion

5770: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/world-of-warcraft-c...

460: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/world-of-warcraft-c...

The 460 is about 25 fps better than the 5770 @ 1920x1080 at ultra settings

Edit: also review about cpu performance: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/world-of-warcraft-c...

Might see better results from three cores than two
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a b B Homebuilt system
March 29, 2011 7:58:48 PM

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I see where you guys are going with the Athlon. I think i'm going with the Phenom ii x2


I think you also initially chose an Athlon in your initial build.

Actually I chose a Phenom,X2 555 and imaurer26 an Athlon X3 450 both good cpu's. The Phenom x2 555 handles games better because of the 6 MB L3 Cache, the Athon x3 doesn't have a L3 cache, but its better at handling multi-threaded applications.


I think we answered this in both our builds we were unanimous:

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100283VX-2L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support ...
Item #: N82E16814102898
-$5.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$134.99
$129.99

the next step up would be a GTX 460 768Mb

Let me know how the XFX PSU turns out. XFX is not a name I associate with PSU's, so I would be interested in knowing how your experience goes. I didn't see a review for that particular model, but other models have good reviews, so go for it. if you get it @ new review it there after its been running a week or 2.

note: we also think you should get a new HD for the build, both of use suggested good HDs'
you also don't new a 3rd party Heat Sink, the stock one will be fine. if the fan gets too noisy you can replace it easily later with a quieter one.

good luck
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March 29, 2011 8:09:45 PM

Actually I chose a Phenom,X2 555 and imaurer26 an Athlon X3 450 both good cpu's. The Phenom x2 555 handles games better because of the 6 MB L3 Cache, the Athon x3 doesn't have a L3 cache, but its better at handling multi-threaded applications.
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Sorry I got mixed up I meant I see where your going with the phenom, and I'm going with that. Thank you that was really helpful. If it were up to me I would choose a cheaper case. That GPU is a overkill so thank you for those benchmarks that is exactly what I needed I think i'm kinda modest so I didn't realize that you could get that much power on ultra setting. I thought that was only achievable with 6970's, or 580's but I was wrong! My build is running SLI dual 570's, and Wow only shows up to 60 fps, and I didn't do any benchmarking so now I know that I will be fine!

Question though If I get a new hard drive will I have to buy a new OS?
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March 29, 2011 8:16:58 PM

imaurer269 said:
Check out this PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Antec EarthWatts EA-500D Green 500W only 5 bucks more after shipping with the promo code and no rebate to worry about.
Being green really isn't my thing but hey, thank you for the sugestion it seems pretty well built!
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March 29, 2011 8:27:12 PM

I haven't used a xfx psu before but they seem to get ok reviews, I have used 4-5 antec psu's and haven't had any problems ever. Other psu's I have had good luck so far with are corsair and ocz, both put in systems under 3 months old but no problems yet. I always go for a antec unless there is a way better deal on another decent brand name.
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a b B Homebuilt system
March 29, 2011 8:42:51 PM

processor-pro said:
That GPU is a overkill so thank you for those benchmarks that is exactly what I needed I think i'm kinda modest so I didn't realize that you could get that much power on ultra setting. I thought that was only achievable with 6970's, or 580's but I was wrong! My build is running SLI dual 570's, and Wow only shows up to 60 fps, and I didn't do any benchmarking so now I know that I will be fine!


I'm not sure I am follow which GPU is overkill? the 5770 is a solid recommendation. the 5750 would barely get by at 1920x1080 and after the mail-in rebate they are the same price.


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Question though If I get a new hard drive will I have to buy a new OS?


do you have your XP install disc? If you put in a new MB, depending how old the original hardware was, it might not update correctly and you will have to do a re-install. you will need to slipstream at least SP1 if your XP disk is not already SP1, SP2 or 3 would better.

there are guides to installing new mb's without re-installing the OS just google it.

here is one, it seems to be on the right track:
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1755&p...


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a b Ý World of Warcraft
March 29, 2011 8:45:31 PM

Take a look at this month's $550 SBM article build. It starts out with four cores, and includes a decent graphics card as well.
If you need to make it cheaper, you could reduce the GPU to a HD5770 and still have very good WoW performance.
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March 29, 2011 9:24:14 PM

Onus said:
Take a look at this month's $550 SBM article build. It starts out with four cores, and includes a decent graphics card as well.
If you need to make it cheaper, you could reduce the GPU to a HD5770 and still have very good WoW performance.


that may be good cause I need an OS too
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March 29, 2011 10:07:47 PM

Alright i'm done with all the BS so I came up with a final build this one includes a decent hard drive, and an OS. It is $650, and includes everything you could ever need to consider it a gaming PC! I want a little bit of feedback on the specs, but except for maybe a few hard ware tweaks i'm not gonna change much! lol (it's about time!) He better put in his coffin "This is in remembrance to my awesome cousin Alex who bought me a kick ass gaming computer when I could not afford one, and it is him I will miss the most."

CPU: AMD Phenom ii x2 BE $90

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard $73

RAM: PNY XLR8 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $55

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Blue 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $45

Case:COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel / Plastic Computer Case $50

I picked up a 4 pack of blue fans for extra cooling cause it only had a 120mm, and a 140 mm $10

GPU: PNY GTS Nvidia GeForce gtx 450 $120

PSU:COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus 500W ATX12V v2.3 Power Supply $45

Optical: Sony optriac $20

Fan Controller: I went with one because those cheap fan can get loud, and with 6 fan them being all the way turned up is not necessary. Sunbeam 6 channel $30

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Two washable fan filter for intake I hope to god he cleans it at least every couple of months! $5

OS: Windows 7 Home prenium

I took all of your ideas from all of you guys into consideration when designing this. So I thank you! :ange:  So i'm guessing this will pull around 80 fps in WoW at 1920:1080 with everything on ultra I just tried to go with all good name brand parts, and this is what I came up with it seems pretty good any tweaks? I hope the power supply can power all these fans!
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March 29, 2011 10:33:49 PM

Its a 500W PSU just like the Coolermaster, I'd put money that it is gonna last longer and save some money on the electric bill.
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March 29, 2011 10:39:25 PM

Do you know any good 5850's they perform about the same, and will work worth my processor to do task but I want it to be no more than 175 dollars (absolute max!)
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March 29, 2011 10:43:00 PM

But I am going to go with that cooler it seems like it would actually exhaust better with a bottom mount PSU because of that fan it has on the back plus it's bronze certified(saves my money multiple ways) thanks I didn't even realize that it was 500 watts!
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a b B Homebuilt system
a b Ý World of Warcraft
March 29, 2011 11:40:30 PM

Ok...
1. Any Coolermaster PSU with a little voltage switch on it is overrated junk. Get the Antec Earthwatts.
2. WoW seems to prefer nVidia cards. Either flavor of GTX460 would be nice.
3. I'm pretty sure you don't want a X2 for WoW. If you can't get a $140 955BE, then get a X4 820 (NOT an 840, which has no L3) for $95; but you'll need to get an aftermarket cooler as that's an OEM chip.

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March 30, 2011 12:12:41 AM

Since you have increased what you are gonna spend take something like this into consideration: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...
Then toss in that GTX 460 768MB and you are now in a sandy bridge build. That prolly isn't a great combo but should be able to put together a decent set up for $650.
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March 30, 2011 12:29:44 AM
a b B Homebuilt system
a b Ý World of Warcraft
March 30, 2011 12:53:22 AM

imaurer269's combo looks good, but ONLY if the included Chokemax PSU-shaped object is immediately tossed for an actual PSU, such as a 500W-550W model from Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, Enermax, or XFX.
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March 30, 2011 1:06:31 AM

Onus said:
imaurer269's combo looks good, but ONLY if the included Chokemax PSU-shaped object is immediately tossed for an actual PSU, such as a 500W-550W model from Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, Enermax, or XFX.


Just used that combo to show that he could afford a SB build with $650 I wouldn't use most of those parts honestly. But OP had included a OS in the $650 budget so I don't know if he would be willing to up the budget, would be a very well spent 100 bucks as far as longevity and performance goes IMO tho.
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a b B Homebuilt system
a b Ý World of Warcraft
March 30, 2011 2:01:01 AM

Ok, here's what I came up with, using a more minimalist approach. This will be a very nice gift. If you want to spend more, the first place I'd put it is on the CPU; a 955BE if you can afford it, an Athlon II X4 if not.

Xigmatek ASGARD II B/B CPC-T45UC-U01 Black / Black 0.8 mm SECC / Aluminum and Aluminum Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer ...
Model #:CPC-T45UC-U01
Item #:N82E16811815004
$39.99 -$10.00 Instant $29.99

ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
Model #:M3A770DE
Item #:N82E16813157176
$59.99 $59.99

Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power ...
Model #:EA-430D Green
Item #:N82E16817371034
$69.99 -$20.00 Instant $49.99

COOLER MASTER Hyper TX3 RR-910-HTX3-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" 92mm CPU Cooler
Model #:RR-910-HTX3-G1
Item #:N82E16835103064
$21.99 $21.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:ST3500418AS
Item #:N82E16822148395
$49.99 -$10.00 Instant $39.99

MSI N460GTX Twin Frozr II SOC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video ...
Model #:N460GTX Twin Frozr I
Item #:N82E16814127519
$149.99 $149.99

AMD Athlon II X3 450 Rana 3.2GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX450WFGMBOX
Model #:ADX450WFGMBOX
Item #:N82E16819103886
$79.99 $79.99

Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model ...
Model #:996586
Item #:N82E16820146748
$39.99 $39.99

SAMSUNG DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223L LightScribe Support - OEM
Model #:SH-S223L
Item #:N82E16827151188
$21.99 $21.99

Subtotal: $493.91 but there are a couple of MIRs in there too, if you play that game and win.

You'll need to use one of the included molex-PCIE power adapters, but the PSU can handle the GPU in this build. Oh, and if you don't have an extra one, you'll need to get a power cord; the smaller Earthwatts units don't include one.

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a b B Homebuilt system
March 30, 2011 7:39:53 AM

processor-pro said:
Ok but do you think with 6 fans that 450 will be enough power?


yep, 120mm fans only take about 4 watts a piece. the big draw will be the CPU and GPU.
I also agree that the PSU you selected is a bad choice. any of the ones we have advised on are good solid choices. I've built probably 100 pc's and I have learn my lesson about PSU's. please take our advice on this one.

Quote:
I want a little bit of feedback on the specs, but except for maybe a few hard ware tweaks i'm not gonna change much! lol


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A Quote from Toms' best GPU's for the money (March):
It's difficult to recommend $110-to-$120 DirectX 11-class cards like the Radeon HD 5750 and GeForce GTS 450 when the superior Radeon HD 5770 is only $125.


imaurer269 and I both agree the best card for the price point is the Saphire HD 5770. That being said, if you are going with a GTS 450 GPU get one of these, the PNY is much slower and cost more:

ASUS ENGTS450 DC OC/DI/1GD5 GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB Overclocked to 850MHz and DirectCU N82E16814121415
$125 has a $20 mail-in rebate so $105 final cost
N82E16814162062

Galaxy 50SGH8HX3QMZ GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) GC Version 1GB
N82E16814162062
$120 has a $30 mail-in rebate so $90 final cost.

both these cards have better (and quieter) coolers on them and are factory Overclocked for better performance.

Good luck on your build.
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March 30, 2011 10:16:05 AM

The HD5770 is a solid card (I used mine until recently), but Blizzard games seem to prefer nVidia; that's why there's a GTX460 in my build.
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March 30, 2011 11:27:34 AM

Onus said:
The HD5770 is a solid card (I used mine until recently), but Blizzard games seem to prefer nVidia; that's why there's a GTX460 in my build.


That is a great upgrade GPU for only about $30 more than the HD 5770
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March 30, 2011 11:41:15 AM




thats an awesome build for the price point. I like it!
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March 31, 2011 1:58:23 AM

I like that build with the I5 but i'm already upping my budget a $150, but this computer is not going to play Crysis so i'm really not that worried about a extremely powerful card! But Nvidia does work better with Wow, and I need an OS.(really wish I just bought the retail OS for my PC). I am a little bit Intel biased because my two of my pc's have intel, and both of there chips broke! I still have a two working AMD computers. Not to much they were $300 dollars cheaper. I do have an I7 in my main but thats because it is an I7, and I had the extra money to spend. lol
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March 31, 2011 3:00:18 AM

OK I did redo it again lol! This one has a quad core so it's should be pretty powerful!

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 820 Deneb 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 4MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor HDX820WFK4FGI - OEM $95

CPU Cooler: XIGMATEK LOKI SD963 92mm HYPRO Bearing CPU Cooler $25

Mobo:GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard $80

HD:Western Digital Caviar Blue WD2500AAKS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $45

RAM:G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 $50

OS:Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders $100

Optical:Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW $20

Case:NZXT LEXA S LEXS - 001BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA-650 GREEN 650W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU:EVGA 01G-P3-1452-TR GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) Superclocked 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $670

Any feed back?
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March 31, 2011 3:44:44 AM

Looks pretty solid, I would just change one thing, the HDD to one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|22-152-185^22-152-185-TS%2C22-152-181^22-152-181-02%23

Both are gonna be better than any WD Blue series HD.

Edit: Also if either you or your cousin are a college student you can save a bit on windows OS.
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March 31, 2011 6:56:55 AM

I agree with imaurer269 on the HD the Samsung Spinpoints are a better buy.

you could go with less costly, but solid RAM, unless you just like the pretty heat spreader on the RipJaws :) 
Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Lots of issues with that GPU you picked out. these are much more stable and slightly less expensive
both are solid cards for running WOW:

Galaxy 50SGH8HX3QMZ GeForce GTS 450 $120 + $30 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS ENGTS450 DC OC/DI/1GD5 $125 +$20MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Other thoughts; other than the minor tweeks above there is nothing wrong with your build, but consider the below:

Saving $5 on the HD, $10 on the GPU (Galaxy), $10 on ram without fancy heat spreaders, not getting the $27 after market cooler = $52
for +$45 you can bump up your CPU to a much better one (retail box so you won't need a HSF)
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz on sale for $140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Realizing that his need is to just play WOW, but it would be good to put a little future proofing in if we can. just in case the next WOW expansion pack is a little more system intense.


Good luck on the build. post back when its down a let us know how it works out.
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March 31, 2011 10:12:29 AM

The Seagate 7200.12 offers similar performance to the Spinpoint and is $10 cheaper. Subjectively, from when my primary drive wasn't a SSD, if there's any difference, the Seagate felt slightly faster.
The mobo I listed is ASRock's $20 cheaper version of the 770. I've got three or four out there, and no reason not to keep using them.
Adding an OS leaves my build still at under $600, and the stronger video card will allow it to outperform your $670 build in games.
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