Umm 8800 gt vs 6870

First thing I noticed is that he isn't using an 8800GT, but an 8800GTX. That X makes a huge difference. More shaders, more memory bandwidth, faster card overall. Second, he never gives the res, but he does say you can put youtube into 1080 mode to watch so he MIGHT be using that. (120Hz sticker and 2ms is on the side of his monitor, so its probably 1080.) Third, he clearly states that he is "running on all medium details".

To test, load Crysis with "all medium details" and see what your frame rate is. Make sure Vsync is off for this test so you don't get capped at 30 or 60FPS.

If an 8800GTX is getting 50 fps in Crysis at 1080p then it must be using rather low settings and/or resolution. Just look at some benchmarks of the game to see if your performance is lower than normal. There should be plenty of reviews of the HD6870 that include Crysis.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290

lol
Maybe he is drunk. I've been away for a bit but I don't remember jericho being this bad.

So if you watch a a video on youtube that Obama is an alien you'll believe that too? I've got some "special" insurance I'd like to sell you

Anyway make sure that you have the latest patch for Crysis. It makes a huge difference. Also, the guy is using an 8800GTX (with an ultra cooler and might be overclocked), not an 8800GT, which should generally be a little above a GTS 450 in pure performance baring driver abnormalities. Generally speaking 8800GTX >= GTS250 > GTS450. Comparatively your 6870 isn't doing too bad at 1080p and you should be o.k running it on high.

To see where the bottleneck is overclock your card and see if you get an increase in FPS. If not, then the problem lies elsewhere.

Don't base your system against a youtube video of some random person. I've seen people argue that a P4 with 9400GT should be able to play GTA IV smoothly cause they saw it on youtube. lol

What not RMA the new card also if it gives the same performance? You never know and there was that 8800GTX on youtube...
I'm just saying the proper thing to do here is to tell the OP that youtube benchmarks should not be used to make any sort of decision about anything and certainly aren't a reason to RMA or upgrade a card.

I guess this is where we disagree. I think both of us know a lot more about his card than he does which is why he came to the site to ask for advice.

This thread makes me want to benchmark a game with a GTX 580 and put it on YouTube claiming that it's an HD 5570.

/worthless off-topic comment

Anyway, you should really be comparing your results to actual benchmarks, like those here at Tom's, instead of Youtube. (See above) Only then can you say for sure that there's something wrong, and even if you do find that something is, then start troubleshooting everything else as well. Just my words of advice.

...and MSI Motherboards FTW!

Actually, the GTS450 is faster then the 8800GTX or GTS250. If you get one of the massively overclocked GTS450s you get a card thats just behind the 5770.

I agree that I wouldn't put too much stock in the vid. He never showed his settings and we have to assume how honest he is. He could have showed us the details page but he didn't. We don't know the clocks, we actually know very little about his test conditions. You would also need to test at the same spot in the game. If you're testing latter in the game or level with enemies around that could also explain some of the difference. Run the benchmark built into the game and compare with other places.

never heard anything of value out of him, his grammar skills are at least a 4th grade level

no trust me he is a dumbass ive seen him making dim witted comments that are not only illogical but have no factual basis, this kind of opinion is not needed, likely he's some kid...

yeah moreover I don't care for his gloating tone just throwing accusations out like the 8800gtx being better then a 6870 which is nowhere close to being true no matter how you argue it... sounds like he picked up on someones comment and ran with it... I just figured he was a kid because his bc of 1991 (maybe his bday) but I could be wrong

He is playing all medium settings 1080p and no aa or af.

woo lol. there is lots here lol. i actually upgraded to a 6970 lol. it should be here in a weak. i did the crysis gpu bench mark program on full settings and got 26 fps. then the cpu bench mark and only got 22 with my 1090t at 3.5ghz . then for some reason over clocked it to 4 ghz and got 21 fps on the cpu bench mark.. wierd..

not sure. having troubles over clocking my cpu. 1090t. i think its my ram. i have cossair xm3 2x2 1333mhz ram. but i dont think its stable at 1333mhz for some reason. when i so a 200fsb and change the multiplyer to get to 4 ghz it crashes every other day. but if i change the fsb to2 245 and change my ram timing to 1307mhz and change the multiplyer to get to 4 ghz it seems ok.. also might be my voltages. not sure.. i want some 1600mhz ram and relax it a bit. maybe a better mobo will help to. im running a shitty msi 870a g45... dunno time will tell.

no way,common guys when i said that 8800gt or gtx is better than hd 6870?i just said that 8800gt was high end card of its time which is over now.it can run high end games with medium settings which is truth.are you kidding that 8800gt is better than hd 6870.

first tell me what is meaning of high end card?then tell me the meaning of 3 year old high end card?

well if you hate my statement then yes i am saying that 2 8800ultras are better than hd 6870.

No you didn't. You said,

I said not only is it better then one, its better then two. The 6870 is better then two 8800GTs. Whether its better then two 8800Ultra's is at least mildly debatable.

I think I better stop handing out troll food. I've got better things to do with my time. Good day sir.

@mrjericho1991, You're so wrong about the 8800GT being a match for the 6870 it's just not funny.

@jjb8675309, Lay off the insults or you might find yourself taking some time off from being able to post.

I truly believe that misinformation is counterproductive to what we are trying to do here but I will keep my mouth shut about it and just ignore such remarks although I'm not sure why everyone is getting so bent out of shape about it, this is not the first occurrence of this but I apologize for taking the argument out of context.

yeah I guess that's basically what I was trying to accomplish,I value the integrity of the posts on here and it has definatley been a repeat offense type of situation, that is the only reason I took it as far as I did bc this is like the 20th time ive seen something like this but next time I will follow the protocol of pointing it out then ignoring, let me know if there is anything that can be done further