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March 31, 2011 8:09:33 PM

Wanna build a $5000 (give or take)VFX animation/render/video editing rig with latest gadgets...have hard time to decide on specs...prime usage for Autodesk Maya,CS5,NUKE,FinalCutPro
April 4, 2011 7:34:34 AM


...just got back... anyway...here is a deal

Case_ COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1
CPU___Intel® Xeon® Processor W3690
MoBo__ASUS P6X58-E WS LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel, ECC support
VGA___2 x GeForce GTX 590 SLI
MEM___2 x Kingston 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Registered DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Server Memory 24 GB total
OC____SSD OCZ Vertex 3 240GB or (OCZ Revodrive X2 240 GB SSD )?
DATA__2x WD VelociRaptor 640 GB 10K Rpm HDD (Raid 1)
OPTIC__LG BH12LS35 Internal 12x Super Multi Blue Lightscribe
POWER_1000W COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold

...up to this point around $5K ...
I need to decide on water cooling...should i go with single CPU Hydration & bigger_better cooling fans ??(Corsair Hydro Series H70 120mm high performance CPU cooling) ??.
or there some decent cooling circulating close circle CPU+VGA's??? nothing fancy....couple hundreds... strictly practical..
feel free to advice me on this config...looking start building as soon as all ends meets... want to finish all that in couple of weeks....
...appreciate Your impact... cheers...
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April 8, 2011 10:25:50 PM

...or should i switch a lanes and go with
CPU____Intel Xeon E3-1275 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO___ASUS P8B WS LGA 1155 Intel C206 ATX Intel Xeon E3 Server/Workstation Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU____PNY VCQ5000-PB Quadro 5000 2.5GB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Workstation Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

... then i need to find decent 32 GB ECC memory RAM...hydro cool my CPU and go ALL GREEN with this money saving PSU
80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified KINGWIN Lazer Platinum Series
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

the rest untouched .... that will save me a little bit of $$$ on this build and electric bills to come ...
... and it will look more like Professional Workstation with the accent on VFX and Autodesk/Maya animation ...

ANY COMMENTS ON THIS..????? Feel free..I need second opinion and some suggestion on proper RAM and cooling and ALL !!!!! :sol: 
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April 8, 2011 11:15:54 PM

I'd pick the sandy bridge build, but doubt you really need water cooling. Go with big air instead. a Thermaltake Frio is $58 and one of the top 5 heatsinks around, easily a match for the H70, without the hassles of liquid cooling. (having to replace fluid, the risk of fluid leaking on the interior of your $5000 computer, etc)

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April 11, 2011 9:05:32 PM

Yees... I'll go with SandyBridge build and air cooling CPU the only thing I'm not sold on is a memory... 32GB (4x8GB) Kit DDR3 1333MHz ECC Unbuffered memory will work perfect with MOBO... the only thing i cant find a decent one... Any suggestions ?
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April 11, 2011 9:11:02 PM

LLIyT said:
Yees... I'll go with SandyBridge build and air cooling CPU the only thing I'm not sold on is a memory... 32GB (4x8GB) Kit DDR3 1333MHz ECC Unbuffered memory will work perfect with MOBO... the only thing i cant find a decent one... Any suggestions ?



Why not just buy two of these 16 GB kits?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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April 11, 2011 9:36:12 PM

i need at least 24GB and for 32 i do not need to worry down the road... :pt1cable: 
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April 11, 2011 9:44:01 PM

and i prefer stay away from RDIMM since UDIMM is 15-18% faster...
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April 11, 2011 9:45:43 PM

and cheaper... and unbufered is suporting by this MOBO...
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April 11, 2011 9:46:32 PM

there are only 4 memory slots, which appear to be dual-channel. I'd suggest a pair of 2x4 kits (for 16GB) or a pair of 2x8 kits (for 32 GB), of course 1 2x8 and 1 2x4 kit would give you 24 GB.
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April 11, 2011 10:32:33 PM

that is correct... thank you... all i need to find a good deal now on ECC UDIMM... and it will be complited ... :sol: 
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April 15, 2011 2:06:48 AM

i think I got it
....here is my final config....

Case_ COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1
CPU_____Intel Xeon E3-1275 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz
COOL____Zalman CNPS9900 MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler
MOBO___ASUS P8B WS LGA 1155 Intel C206 ATX Intel Xeon E3 Server/Workstation
MEM___ ????? .... I could not find it on sale i need like... special order.... :fou: 
GPU_____PNY VCQ5000-PB Quadro 5000 2.5GB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Workstation Video Card
OS______2xSSD OCZ Vertex 3 120GB RAID 0 i got pretty good deal on them cheaper then single 240GB...... :lol: 
DATA____4x Western Digital Caviar Black WD1502FAEX 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s RAID 10
CntrCard_LSI Internal SATA/SAS 9211-4i 6Gb/s PCI-Express 2.0 RAID Controller Card
+ 2x 3ware Multi-lane Internal (SFF-8087) Serial ATA breakout cable, forward .....for my SAS/SATA III raid config
OPTIC___LITE-ON 12X BD-R 8MB Cache SATA Internal Blu-ray Burner with 3D Playback iHBS212 LightScribe
POWER__80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified KINGWIN Lazer Platinum Series....

....+ some whistles all together came in the vicinity of 4,500.... Will anybody comment on this build?????... and if you have any idea where to get 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3 PC3-10600 1333MHz ECC Unbuffered Memory let me know... :sol: 
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April 15, 2011 3:33:45 AM

looks pretty decent to me. And about 7.5 times the value of my new pc :) 
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April 19, 2011 5:54:14 PM

Got the memory....750$... pieces of gold... since nobody have any suggestions... on my way to build this BEAST...
All parts including bells and whistles +shipping came to a total of 4,629$...ultimate 3D Workstation... damn I'm good... can blew some competition out of a Water... 5K cheaper then closest ....oxx.... appraisal for the same ingredients for performance .. for their price i can build a Quad CPU UFO's.... :lol: 
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April 19, 2011 6:44:24 PM

good luck and congrats on the build!
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April 22, 2011 9:13:59 AM

Yeah ... Looks smokin' ...

... I have never assisted with such a robust build, here, thus far, but it does look like you HAVE acheived a balanced hyper-rig and a very good value, for the budget.

I do not have the time to "validate" compatibility (via researching specs and QVLs) but will be very interested to hear from you, once you get it all stable.

Very ambitious, but not over-kill, by any means ... You are skating on the bleeding edge ... And, beyond any "solid" advice, from me ... Consider me a student, at this point, as I have not been exposed to this kit.

I am NOT SEEING A PSU ... What did you get ?

Make sure your PSU is over-rated, by at least ~120Watts ... You may wish to drop a 2nd nVidia GPU (~GTX560ti ?) in there, at some point, either to allow more than 2x displays or to boost your CUDA core count. Quadros and GTXxxx do play nice, and will gang-up transparently.

Of course ... One would have hoped for PCIe 3.0 (and a Socket 2011) but ... not happenning this year.



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April 22, 2011 5:19:55 PM

Overall this looks like a very nice build based on the new Intel® Xeon® E3-1275 and this Asus board I think you are going to very happy with this. I don’t think you need to worry about water cooling for it and as far as a power supply this is a great tool that I have used a lot it will show you the lower end of what you need for a power supply http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp. One thing I do want to point out with these E3 processors is that they won’t have the same overclocking ability that the Intel Core™ I5 2500K or I7 2600K. The big advantage that you pick up with the Intel Xeons is the ability to support ECC memory, which for this type of work is a big advantage.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
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April 22, 2011 7:03:06 PM

That PSU calculator link did not work, for me, ... not sure why.

Off-hand, loaded up, like that, with overhead for a 2nd GPU, I'm just gonna make a liberal guess that you will need a Seasonic X-series in the ~850W range.

I think 1kwatt would be a maximum high end .

Cosrsair (any model above ~800watts, would be my second pick).

I am much more familiar with the X58 kit but, have heard the sandies use less power and certainly should do fine with a single fan (push) hyper212+ 120mm air cooler. If what the INTEL rep says is true, about limited OC, then you'd might as well go with the stock cooler, as it is designed for the rated clock.

I belive you might have actually had better performance, with a pair of GTX 570s, or even 560ti s, if, as Illy tried both the Quadros and the GTXs, in the same system and (for unknown reasons), the GTX trounced the quadro ... Further, some of the other forums/owners had confirmed this.

Depends on the exact sw module/rev that you are running, I am sure, but ... If you go over that ws mega-thread, where I have been hanging out, and read those pages where Illy completed his build (and ran tests and posted benches), you may get a better handle, on the difference. We were a bit surprised.

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April 22, 2011 7:13:05 PM

Thank You Alwin,
...for the word of support...
as my power unit KINGWIN Lazer Platinum Series 550w
80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified can have overclocking option to 650w 80 PLUS Gold Certified
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
...will handle the single Q5000... and adding +gtx560ti or (GTX590) or (Tesla in that perspective) card to it will get the last drop out of it ...you made the point, i need to switch to >750-850W range that will be a safe bet... now i need to reconsider and find a decent one ...since i'm looking to be Green certified on my build... :ange: 
any suggestions?
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April 22, 2011 7:27:57 PM

...originally i were going to do 2xGTX590 SLI... but after a 1,5 hour chat with Nvidia tech support I got convinced to use ECC advantage of Quadro over 590... now Im thinking down the road to add single 590 to it... and yes thank you for the power unit tip
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April 22, 2011 8:03:51 PM

IntelEnthusiast said:
Overall this looks like a very nice build based on the new Intel® Xeon® E3-1275 and this Asus board I think you are going to very happy with this. I don’t think you need to worry about water cooling for it and as far as a power supply this is a great tool that I have used a lot it will show you the lower end of what you need for a power supply http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp. One thing I do want to point out with these E3 processors is that they won’t have the same overclocking ability that the Intel Core™ I5 2500K or I7 2600K. The big advantage that you pick up with the Intel Xeons is the ability to support ECC memory, which for this type of work is a big advantage.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team




Thank You Intel
I did use it for my calculation and on single Q5000 my build at 515W pick power,(taking into perspective optional upgrade i need more Watts on my PSU, thanks to Alvin
i considered both of i7-2600k and E3-1275 and couple more
http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=52576,53673,52585...,
...i decided to go with most practical one for specific needs E3-1275 has it all.. embedded, ECC.. most graphic support and a price of course ... can't beat that and having turbo option up to 3.8Ghz i want to make my Xeon happy with 135 mm air cooling device ZALMAN...wich will impact GPU and RAM due to its open FAN design..
as far as overclocking I'm not considering it as an issue since this machine is not for Sport's ...its a moneymaking Workbench :sol: 
Thank you for your impact. regards
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July 3, 2011 12:47:46 AM

...after all...

Case_ COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1
CPU_____Intel Xeon E3-1275 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz
COOL____Zalman CNPS9900 MAX-B 135mm Long life bearing CPU Cooler
MOBO___ASUS P8B WS LGA 1155 Intel C206 ATX Intel Xeon E3 Server/Workstation
MEM____8(2x4)CorsairDDR3 XMS3 1330 Dual Channel
GPU_____NVIDIA Quadro 5000 2.5GB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Workstation Video Card
OS______2xSSD OCZ Vertex 3 120GB RAID 0 i got pretty good deal on them cheaper then single 240GB...... :lol: 
DATA____4x Western Digital Caviar Black WD1502FAEX 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s RAID 10
CntrCard_1_LSI Internal MegaRAID SATA/SAS 9260-4i 6Gb/s PCI-Express 2.0 RAID Controller Card
_2_USB 3.0 (NEC chipset) 5GBPS 2PortsHost Adapter.... (for my perfect Case it has 2x USB 3.0 upfront , so now i have +2 (now 4) external 3.0 on my sys....its only one on a market to overpriced 40$
+ 2x 3ware Multi-lane Internal (SFF-8087) Serial ATA breakout cable, forward .....for my SAS/SATA III raid config
OPTIC___LITE-ON 12X BD-R 8MB Cache SATA Internal Blu-ray Burner with 3D Playback iHBS212 LightScribe
POWER__80 PLUS Gold Certified AX750W Corsair Series....
+ cables, extra fan and fan/temperature control module ...All together $4,650 running on a SONY 46 3D TV + 1,400$

the Q? mark iz a memory ... its not on a market... i have to wait for it to submerge... hopefully by the end of the year... i testing it with minimum requirements...

Here is some of my Benches:......

my RAID0 Main Program Boot Disk 2x Vertex 3 120 GB
read write
975.51 321.06 MB/s Seq
23.02 53.89 MB/s 4K
283.58 285.64 BB/s 4K-64Thrd
0.078 0.245 ms Acc.time
404 372 Score

My Raid 10 4x WD 1.5 TB (2x400 GB , 450GB Sys file , 1.5TB Virtual drives with 64-128 partitioning.... for wrok in process storage ands some Sys Files.)
293-334 253-277
58-70 104-174
0.76-0.94 2.3-4.8
4.8-5.3 2.8-4.4

All recent tests
my Passmark raiting is 4161.1 overall video score 80 points more then the passmarkWeb shows

Disk mark 7218.1 Ramdom seeks/wrights 708.2 CPU 9234.2 Graphics 3D-DirectX 39.9 CD mark 605.9
...thought that would be interesting.....


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July 3, 2011 5:54:57 AM

pretty good stuff lillyT
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July 5, 2011 6:57:22 PM

Yup ... 'nuther 8GB ECC wouldn't hurt anything.
I still think that a Seasonic X850Watt woulda given better headroom, given your proclivities and orientation but, what u got will do, for now.

Them vertex-3's will prolly do more fer yer "snap", than anything else.

Go .... DO !
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September 26, 2011 1:06:25 PM

Best answer selected by LLIyT.
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