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~$400 Budget gaming, help choose cpu/gfx combo

Approximate Purchase Date: Tonight
Budget Range: ~$400
System Usage from Most to Least Important: moderate gaming, web surfing, movies/media
Country of Origin: CA, USA
Overclocking: Yes/Maybe
Monitor Resolution: 1366x768(native)/1024x768

Problem:
I need help choosing a CPU(processor)/Graphics card combination, between 2 choices

I can either get: 1.)
AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache
WITH a low end Radeon 4650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 graphics card,
and a better graphics card in the future <1 year, possibly a Radeon 5770 after I save up.

OR I can get: 2.)
AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 820 Deneb 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 4MB L3 Cache
WITH a much better Radeon 5670 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 graphics card,
but probably no graphics card upgrade anytime soon.

I'm building a computer, mostly for gaming, either setup would be an ENORMOUS upgrade over my current system, and the second setup costs $20 more.

I plan on using this computer for 4+ years so take that into consideration when choosing which CPU is better suited for the future.

New build specs:
-ASUS M4A78LT-M AM3 AMD 760G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
-Team Xtrem Dark 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) RAM
-Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache IDE Ultra ATA100 / ATA-6 (from previous system)
-Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B
-500W ATX12V v2.2 / ESP12V v2.91 Power Supply (PCIe Ready)
-Windows 7, 64-bit

games I play/want to play:
ALL CALL OF DUTY'S including cod1/2/4/mw2/BO
any other FPS released in the past, present, and near future (1-3 years)
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  1. could you post where are you buying from ?
  2. hwg33k said:
    could you post where are you buying from ?


    all from newegg.

    Option 1.:
    AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808
    and
    Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102829R

    Option 2.:
    AMD Phenom II X4 820 Deneb 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 4MB L3 Cache
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103824
    (with: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186035
    and
    Radeon HD 5670 (Redwood) 512MB 128-bit DDR5
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102871


    Mobo:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131672
    RAM:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313103
    CD/DVD:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039
    Hard drive(already own from previous system):
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136112
  3. Is Microcenter an option for ya?
  4. batuchka said:
    Is Microcenter an option for ya?

    Doesn't appear to be, I live in San Diego, nearest location is in Orange County (much too far)
  5. Only 160 GB harddrive?
  6. Hmm consider the Rana X3 and bump up to at least to a HD 5770?
  7. crossedoutt said:
    Only 160 GB harddrive?

    yeah for now I wont even need that much space, but in the future I may get another hard drive, possibly a couple external drives. every movie I download goes straight to dvd and then deleted from my drive anyway so not an issue.


    batuchka said:
    Hmm consider the Rana X3 and bump up to at least to a HD 5770?


    I considered the rana X3 450 originally, along with the 5770, but then I decided I absolutely had to have a quad core. after researching the radeon 5770 I learned that with my monitor resolution 1366x768(native, 18.5 inch), I would better off buying a 5670.

    Radeon 5770:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131330
  8. Well if u stated u needed to do rendering/encoding i would say ya a quad is a great idea but even with current DX11 titles and incoming ones to follow i would really see a slightly beefier GPU even at your resolution as a better move hehe
  9. batuchka said:
    Well if u stated u needed to do rendering/encoding i would say ya a quad is a great idea but even with current DX11 titles and incoming ones to follow i would really see a slightly beefier GPU even at your resolution as a better move hehe


    wouldn't it be more future-proof to get a better cpu now? I probably wont ever upgrade the processor so I need it to last atleast 3-4 years+, and I need it to keep up with any new games released in that period of time, whereas gpu I'll probably upgrade every ~1-2 years. Best scenario I want this build including the cpu to last throughout college (4-5 years).
  10. Well if you can stretch your budget to 450$, you could get a really sweet build in mah siggy. It'd work out really well I guarantee you especially at your resolution. Mainly because COD just doesn't use much graphical power.

    http://www.legitreviews.com/article/811/5/
  11. i3 2100 vs Phenom II X4 810
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/82?vs=289
    Pretty fail on the X4's part.

    200$ CPU's or lower that don't break the bank for good perf.
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-core-i3-2100-phenom-ii-x6-1075t,2859.html
  12. SDMade said:
    wouldn't it be more future-proof to get a better cpu now? I probably wont ever upgrade the processor so I need it to last atleast 3-4 years+, and I need it to keep up with any new games released in that period of time, whereas gpu I'll probably upgrade every ~1-2 years. Best scenario I want this build including the cpu to last throughout college (4-5 years).


    Well for a gaming + snappy 24/7 rig Toms went for entry level Deneb (with L3 cache) so you could use that as a guide :D
    Tom's March 2011 $500 SBM
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-pc-phenom-ii-radeon-hd-6850,2903-9.html
  13. Best answer
    here's my suggestion for a $400 build:

    AMD Athlon II X3 450: $80
    ASRock 880-GM $60
    G.Skill 4 GB ddr3: $40
    Seagate 500 GB HDD: $40
    DVD Burner: $19
    Antec Earthwatts 380: $45
    Roseill R102 case: $30
    HIS HD5670: $75
  14. Best answer selected by SDMade.
  15. ScrewySqrl said:
    here's my suggestion for a $400 build:

    AMD Athlon II X3 450: $80
    ASRock 880-GM $60
    G.Skill 4 GB ddr3: $40
    Seagate 500 GB HDD: $40
    DVD Burner: $19
    Antec Earthwatts 380: $45
    Roseill R102 case: $30
    HIS HD5670: $75


    thanks I went with the AMD Phenom II X4 820 and the SAPPHIRE HD5670. I already had a serviceable HDD and case, and I wanted fast ram with good timings, so here's my new build:

    -ASUS M4A78LT-M AM3 AMD 760G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
    -AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 820 Deneb 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 4MB L3 Cache
    -SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5670 (Redwood) 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP+CrossFireX
    -Team Xtrem Dark 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 Cas Latency 8 RAM
    -Western Digital Caviar Blue 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache IDE Ultra ATA100 / ATA-6 (from previous system)
    -Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7260S-0B
    -500W ATX12V v2.2 / ESP12V v2.91 Power Supply (PCIe Ready)
    -AOC 19" Widescreen LCD Monitor Black (931Swl), 1366x768 (Native Resolution)
    -Windows 7, 64-bit

    Total including monitor, tax + shipping cost:
    $600
    -HDD
    -Case
    =
    $520 (not including Windows 7 OS)
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