olympus 8080 or another one?

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hi, i'd like to buy a new digital camera after Canon A70.

what do you prefer?

Olumpus 8080
Nikon 8800
Canon Pro1
Canon G6

and why?

thanks a lot
Tom

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kyxx <travelyourlifeTOGLIQUESTO@yahoo.it> wrote:
> hi, i'd like to buy a new digital camera after Canon A70.
>

What do you want to do with it and what's important to you? It looks
like you're after high pixel count (7-8Mpixels) and a moderate amount
of zoom in which case you've chosen a good set of cameras there.

> what do you prefer?
>
> Olumpus 8080
> Nikon 8800
> Canon Pro1
> Canon G6
>

On paper, the 8800 has almost everything anyone could want - 10x zoom
*and* 8 megapixels *and* stabilisastion, but somewhere between the
excellent 5700 and the rather flawed 8700 (suffered horribly from noise
because it had an 8mp sensor in the same size as the 5700) something
went wrong. I don't know what the 8800's noise behaviour is like, the
reviews seem to suggest it's improved. I'd definitely go and try one.

The Canon Pro-1 looks to be a damn good camera - just starting to be
heavily discounted though I've not had a chance to play with one. The G6
isn't as much of a step forward over the lovely G5 as I was hoping.

The Oly 8080 has a pretty good lens (better wide-angle performance than
most comparable cameras) as long as you don't want much zoom, and
"feels nice", but it's not really my kind of camera - I need long zoom
for most of the photography I do.

You should also consider the Konica-Minolta A2 (or the slightly cheaper
A200, but it looks like you lose a few too many nice A2 features on
that) which has a similar feature set. I've seen what you can get out of
the old Dimage 7i and the A1, and they're very nice pieces of kit that
have fed into the A2's genes.

pete
--
pete@fenelon.com "there's no room for enigmas in built-up areas"

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"kyxx" <travelyourlifeTOGLIQUESTO@yahoo.it> wrote in message
news:6QmQd.33782$QG6.594484@twister2.libero.it...
> hi, i'd like to buy a new digital camera after Canon A70.
>
> what do you prefer?

None of them...
>
> Olumpus 8080
Horrible zoom controls, slow and poor AF.

> Nikon 8800
Same bad controls and AF with lower picture quality than the Oly

> Canon Pro1
Worst AF and zooming controls of the bunch, despite the latest firmware fix

> Canon G6
Need accessory wide angles to shoot wide angle, and very slow AF; bad
viewfinder.

I picked the Sony 828 (yes, I know, not on the list), since the major "flaw"
in this cam was PF in some situations. That, of course, is fixable in post
processing, and the fix, when needed, takes about 10 seconds. So my decision
was based upon the fact that the flaws present in the Nikon and Oly were
unfixable, and therefore fatal, while the flaw in the Sony was easily
fixable and of minimal importance. Additionally, the Sony has the best AF
and zooming controls of the bunch. The KM A2 is also supposed to be very
good, but I've never used one so I can't comment.


>
> and why?
>
> thanks a lot
> Tom
>

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Hi,

I am looking hard at Sony 828. How long have you had it? And how do you find
the "noise" in Sony 828 as many have complain about?




"TAFKAB" <TheArtist@FormerlyKnownAs.Bowser> wrote in message
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>
> "kyxx" <travelyourlifeTOGLIQUESTO@yahoo.it> wrote in message
> news:6QmQd.33782$QG6.594484@twister2.libero.it...
> > hi, i'd like to buy a new digital camera after Canon A70.
> >
> > what do you prefer?
>
> None of them...
> >
> > Olumpus 8080
> Horrible zoom controls, slow and poor AF.
>
> > Nikon 8800
> Same bad controls and AF with lower picture quality than the Oly
>
> > Canon Pro1
> Worst AF and zooming controls of the bunch, despite the latest firmware
fix
>
> > Canon G6
> Need accessory wide angles to shoot wide angle, and very slow AF; bad
> viewfinder.
>
> I picked the Sony 828 (yes, I know, not on the list), since the major
"flaw"
> in this cam was PF in some situations. That, of course, is fixable in post
> processing, and the fix, when needed, takes about 10 seconds. So my
decision
> was based upon the fact that the flaws present in the Nikon and Oly were
> unfixable, and therefore fatal, while the flaw in the Sony was easily
> fixable and of minimal importance. Additionally, the Sony has the best AF
> and zooming controls of the bunch. The KM A2 is also supposed to be very
> good, but I've never used one so I can't comment.
>
>
> >
> > and why?
> >
> > thanks a lot
> > Tom
> >
>
>

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"Hornbill" <hornbill88RUBBISH@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I am looking hard at Sony 828. How long have you had it? And how do you
> find
> the "noise" in Sony 828 as many have complain about?

I love the 828! PF can be an issue in about 5% of the shots, and it's worst
at the wide end at wide open apertures. Most of the time, you never see it.
But there's a PS action that totally removes it in about 10 seconds, so I
don't care. Noise is excellent at 64, very good at 100, still pretty good at
200, but 400 can get ugly and 800 IS ugly. Here's a sample of a shot at 400:

http://home.comcast.net/~xelbon/sb-06.jpg

This is just a 1024 x 768 pix downsample of the original. If you want a link
to the original, straight from the camera, let me know. The noise is high at
400 but it certainly does not render the camera useless at that speed. Neat
Image works wonders, and when used properly will not wipe out the detail.
With Neat Image, you can get usable shots at ISO 800, but only in a pinch.
The good news is that the lens is fast (2.0/2.8) so you rarely need 800.
Keep in mind that the noise in the Sony, while not bad, is not in the same
class as the Canon 20D, and never will be. If you need noise levels that
low, get the 20D.

I've had the camera about 10 months, and it's my most used camera.
Absolutely no regrets whatsoever.

>
>
>
>
> "TAFKAB" <TheArtist@FormerlyKnownAs.Bowser> wrote in message
> news:ZaoQd.3$Dj4.2@bos-service2.ext.ray.com...
>>
>> "kyxx" <travelyourlifeTOGLIQUESTO@yahoo.it> wrote in message
>> news:6QmQd.33782$QG6.594484@twister2.libero.it...
>> > hi, i'd like to buy a new digital camera after Canon A70.
>> >
>> > what do you prefer?
>>
>> None of them...
>> >
>> > Olumpus 8080
>> Horrible zoom controls, slow and poor AF.
>>
>> > Nikon 8800
>> Same bad controls and AF with lower picture quality than the Oly
>>
>> > Canon Pro1
>> Worst AF and zooming controls of the bunch, despite the latest firmware
> fix
>>
>> > Canon G6
>> Need accessory wide angles to shoot wide angle, and very slow AF; bad
>> viewfinder.
>>
>> I picked the Sony 828 (yes, I know, not on the list), since the major
> "flaw"
>> in this cam was PF in some situations. That, of course, is fixable in
>> post
>> processing, and the fix, when needed, takes about 10 seconds. So my
> decision
>> was based upon the fact that the flaws present in the Nikon and Oly were
>> unfixable, and therefore fatal, while the flaw in the Sony was easily
>> fixable and of minimal importance. Additionally, the Sony has the best AF
>> and zooming controls of the bunch. The KM A2 is also supposed to be very
>> good, but I've never used one so I can't comment.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > and why?
>> >
>> > thanks a lot
>> > Tom
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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In article <dlvsuc.3i8.ln@fenelon.com>, pete@fenelon.com says...
> David J Taylor <david-taylor@invalid.com> wrote:
> >
> > - telephoto, Panasonic FZ20, 36mm - 432mm f/2.8 image stabilised lens
> >
>
> All the cameras the OP mentioned were 7-8 megapixels, the FZ10/20 range
> is gorgeous (I own an FZ10), but lags slightly on the pixel count. Wonder
> what FZ30 will be?

Expensive

--
Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.
-- Elbert Hubbard

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In article <QpqdndtQHuLiLo_fRVn-rA@comcast.com>, Mark Weaver says...

> > Canon Pro1
> >
>
> This is the one I went with -- very compact (though not light), solidly
> built, I like the 28-200 range, and the image quality is
> excellent--particularly for outdoor photography (which is what I do most of
> the time). Excellent raw performance, too. And a fast lens. And the
> flip/swivel LCD is great. The firmware update made a big difference with
> the AF speed as well. That was never a big problem for me, but the
> improvement is noticeable.

I ruled the Pro 1 out, because reviews show that the lens is poorly
designed (vignetting). But the other features and the compact size are
nice.
--

Alfred Molon
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