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I7 2600k for free or current i7 920?

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July 6, 2011 9:35:34 PM

my friend is working at intel and is set to lay hands on a brand new i7 2600k.
since he has a laptop and doesn't really care about the chip, i get it!!! :bounce: 

my current rig is as so:
i7 920 OC TO 3.2 - not going to go any further...
6 gb corsair 1600mhz dominator
gtx295
asus p6t deluxe v2
and so on....

anyway, i face this dilemma...
take the new sandy bridge (for free) and give my CPU and Motherboard to my dad, or give the new CPU to my dad.

my concern is all about performance.

i saw some posts about the two CPU's but the money was always a big reason for choosing to stay with the i7 920.
money is not an object since i get it for free :pt1cable: 

what would you do????
keep the i7 920 or get a new motherboard (my dad will pay since he'll get both my CPU and MB) and go with the i7 2600k?

you didn't expect this dilemma did u guys...

More about : 2600k free current 920

July 6, 2011 9:37:39 PM

sell the cpu and buy a new graphics card for yourself buddi
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July 6, 2011 9:43:29 PM

bigbang said:
sell the cpu and buy a new graphics card for yourself buddi


my dad won't like your idea....
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July 6, 2011 9:47:22 PM

Give the i7-920 AND your GPU to your dad and make him pay for Sandy Bridge mobo (for your 2600K) AND new GPU =)
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July 6, 2011 9:49:14 PM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
Give the i7-920 AND your GPU to your dad and make him pay for Sandy Bridge mobo (for your 2600K) AND new GPU =)


did you have the i7 920 before you got the 2600???
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July 6, 2011 9:55:18 PM

No. Why?

Edit: I really wanted a 920 or 930, but then Sandy Bridge came out and it was so good compared to 9xx... =)
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July 6, 2011 9:57:44 PM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
No. Why?

Edit: I really wanted a 920 or 930, but then Sandy Bridge came out and it was so good compared to 9xx... =)


i just thought you had both and answerd from experience...

why would you go for the 2600k and what's wrong with my GTX295????
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July 6, 2011 10:13:01 PM

^ Why would I go with 2600K? Hmm, let's see...
1) it runs cooler than the previous-gen i7
2) you OC'd your 920 to 3.2 GHz, while i7-2600/2600K standard speed is 3.4 GHz with upto 4.3 GHz Turbo
3) Sandy Bridge kicks i7-9xx in many benchmarks
4)... you get it for FREE! =)

Now, what's wrong with your GTX 295: doesn't support DX11, older GPU... don't get me wrong, it's a great card, but if you can replace it, why not? :D 
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July 6, 2011 10:20:49 PM

thx amk-aka-phantom

everyone agrees????
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July 6, 2011 10:35:30 PM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
^ Why would I go with 2600K? Hmm, let's see...
1) it runs cooler than the previous-gen i7
2) you OC'd your 920 to 3.2 GHz, while i7-2600/2600K standard speed is 3.4 GHz with upto 4.3 GHz Turbo
3) Sandy Bridge kicks i7-9xx in many benchmarks
4)... you get it for FREE! =)

Now, what's wrong with your GTX 295: doesn't support DX11, older GPU... don't get me wrong, it's a great card, but if you can replace it, why not? :D 

According to Intel max turbo is 3.8ghz 0n the 2600k.
http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=52214
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July 6, 2011 10:36:24 PM

That's according to Intel. But my Asus P8P67 Pro mobo disagrees and changes the Turbo multiplier =P
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July 6, 2011 10:41:12 PM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
That's according to Intel. But my Asus P8P67 Pro mobo disagrees and changes the Turbo multiplier =P

I have the same motherboard and a 2600k and they both agree with the Intel spec. You might want to check your BIOS and put everything back to the default settings.
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July 6, 2011 10:41:40 PM

It is. Nothing special, though, it just changes the Turbo multiplier. Personally I find it better than OC for my purposes, since the CPU idles @ 1.6 GHz and then jumps to 4+ GHz when I need it =)

Edit: Why should I? I used Asus OC Tuner and it changed the Turbo multiplier automatically for me. If it's on default settings then sure, you'll get your max 3.8 GHz Turbo.
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July 6, 2011 10:53:25 PM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
Edit: Why should I? I used Asus OC Tuner and it changed the Turbo multiplier automatically for me. If it's on default settings then sure, you'll get your max 3.8 GHz Turbo.

Which is the Intel spec, not the 4.3 that you mentioned in your previous post.
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July 6, 2011 10:57:28 PM

Yes, but my settings are NOT default Intel specification!!! Are you trolling.... no, you're the moderator. Then you're just confusing! :D 

Okay, break it down for you:

Intel Official Spec for i7-2600: 3.4 GHz default (1.6 GHz idle via SpeedStep), 3.8 GHz Turbo

Asus Auto-OC Spec for the same i7-2600: 3.4 GHz default (1.6 GHz idle via SpeedStep), 4.4 GHz Turbo (increased multiplier).

I can't make it any clearer.
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July 6, 2011 11:52:18 PM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
Yes, but my settings are NOT default Intel specification!!! Are you trolling.... no, you're the moderator. Then you're just confusing! :D 

Okay, break it down for you:

Intel Official Spec for i7-2600: 3.4 GHz default (1.6 GHz idle via SpeedStep), 3.8 GHz Turbo

Asus Auto-OC Spec for the same i7-2600: 3.4 GHz default (1.6 GHz idle via SpeedStep), 4.4 GHz Turbo (increased multiplier).

I can't make it any clearer.


Right, but how is the voltage? You could be shortening the life of your processor by doing the automatic boost. I have an older Asus board (P7P55D-E Pro), and the auto-OC increased my voltage far too high, which could have been disastrous. The auto-OC is just a nice starting point for you... And yet another label that Asus can put on the box.

I believe that mousemonkey is merely trying to help.
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July 7, 2011 12:26:44 AM

technically 2600k is overkill for any games. which is what i suppose the pc will be used for. and im guessing ur dad isnt gonna use it for video editing or servers either. hence my previous advice
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July 7, 2011 5:02:13 AM

roflcopters. by definition u cannot manually set clocks on a cpu procedure lke turbo mode that works automatically on load. they are not compatible. you just cant do both
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July 7, 2011 5:40:52 AM

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i7 920 OC TO 3.2 - not going to go any further...


my concern is all about performance.


You are a bit inconsistent here- you could overclock your current cpu to 4.0GHz or close to it FOR FREE, and gain 25% more power than you currently have. If your concern is all about performance then you should have already done this.


The 2600k has 2 advantages over your current cpu- it can overclock to almost 5 GHz, which is another 25% beyond your current processor. Plus at equivalent clock speeds it is faster than your current processor. From looking at other peoples benchmarks I'm guessing that it is 20-30% faster at equivalent clock speeds. So combine these 2 factors and you could gain approximately 50% more power with the 2600k. Maybe you don't need the increased speed now, but it would allow you to keep your current computer another 1 or 2 years before you feel compelled to upgrade it. Only you can decide if this is worth the trouble and expense of the upgrade.
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July 7, 2011 8:22:18 AM

i wanna go with a asus MB and 8gb of ram above 1600mhz if i upgrade.
any suggestions?

P8P67 Pro B3?
P8P67 Evo B3?
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July 7, 2011 11:53:53 AM

P8P67 Pro, I'd say. Has SLI/Crossfire support, has USB 3.0, is a very good board, use it myself.

bigbang said:
roflcopters. by definition u cannot manually set clocks on a cpu procedure lke turbo mode that works automatically on load. they are not compatible. you just cant do both


What exactly are you referring to? Yes, you can't do both, but you CAN change the Turbo multiplier.
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July 7, 2011 12:26:31 PM

and that turbo multiplier can only be fiddled with when the processor isnt on automatic turbo mode. which decreases its multiplier by a certain amount when idle etc. the two processes are not compatible
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July 7, 2011 12:44:23 PM

bigbang said:
and that turbo multiplier can only be fiddled with when the processor isnt on automatic turbo mode. which decreases its multiplier by a certain amount when idle etc. the two processes are not compatible


Oh yeah? The Turbo multiplier can be "fiddled" with in BIOS, and your CPU is still capable of being on automatic Turbo. My BIOS reads: "Current CPU speed: 3400 MHz, Target CPU speed 4326 MHz". The second value is the target Turbo speed, and if I monitor my clock speed using both Asus AI Suite II and CPU-Z, both show me 1600 MHz on idle (SpeedStep), 3.4-3.8 GHz on average load and 4+ GHz on heavy load. So I would say it IS in automatic turbo mode.
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July 7, 2011 12:49:34 PM

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even though both boards are good the EVO has some features that the PRO doesnt have, such as better LAN capibilities, higher number of USB3 (panel ports) supported, and even though its not that useful the EVO has a clear CMOS button, os yeah for me EVO would be the way to go.


They don't even have EVO boards on Asus website anymore... Strange. Anyway, better LAN capabilities? Like what? In 90% cases, you're limited by your current internet connection and not by your LAN card. All these "gaming LAN cards" and such are just marketing tricks. Clear CMOS button? Handy, but the Pro board has the same feature, just with a jumper. Higher number of USB 3.0 ports? Well, P8P67 Pro has 2 inbuilt, 2 more with the bundled USB 3.0 bracket and two more in the front, if your cabinet supports it. So far I've seen very few USB 3.0 devices on the market, so even 4 ports is enough.
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