[new build] ~$1200-1300

Approximate Purchase Date: after 15 apr 11


Budget Range: 1200-1300


System Usage from Most to Least Important: mainly gaming, crysis, minecraft, and dragon age, maybe come CoD


Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS (W7)


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com


Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences: Traditionally an amd/radeon fan but im looking for performance in this build so ill go with whoever has the best price to performance ratio


Overclocking: no


SLI or Crossfire: Yes, in the future


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080


Additional Comments: what ever performs the best for that price range

case will be the Haf x which is $189 on newegg
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  1. Check out my build guide! Gots lots of tips. In mah siggy.

    But just quick things, the Extreme4 is not in stock @ newegg but it will be soon. Just be patient.
  2. thanks that helped alot. since i like building my own maps and stuff in crysis is having a more powerful cpu recommended or are the game phys processed by the graphics card?
  3. 2500K/2500 is good enough for any gaming computer. The i7 2600/2600K is only necessary for those who are doing intense CAD work, video editing, photo editing (not your measly retouching but like photo stitching and HDR work).

    I've seen plenty of people use Source SDK with a dual core, so no a 2500 is good enough for you. You don't plan to overclock so I suggest to get the 2400 instead. It'll save you about $40 w/ very little performance difference.
  4. really depends on the game, some games are more CPU intensive than others an i5 2500K should be able to handle any games these days you only need an i7 for folding, rendering, intensive video editing, etc. edit*ninja'd
  5. Howz $1152 ? .... Case and PSU are sized fro a 2nd GFX card. MoBo can do SLI at x8 x8. Items marked "later" are anticipated tobe added some time down the road .... extra fan should be added for example when you add 2nd GFX card. Nice side point, installing SSD later won't even require you to open the case. Just slide open the lower drive cage, slide it into the Fleet Swap bay and your done (assuming of course you connected the cable to the bay during time of original build.

    Case - $155 - Antec DF-85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.591259
    PSU - $110 - Antec CP-850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371024
    Case Fan - Later - Antec 120 mm Fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835209006
    MoBo - $395 - ASUS P8P67 Pro http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.622007
    CPU - incl above - Intel Core i5-2500K
    Cooler - $40 - Scythe Mugen 2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185142
    TIM - $5 Shin Etsu 751 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835150080
    RAM - $1455 - (2 x 4GB) Mushkin CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226178
    GFX - $215 - Gigabte GTX 560 Ti 900 Mhz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363
    GFX - Later - Same Same
    /Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130610
    HD - $65 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
    SSD - Later - Vertex 3 120 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706
    DVD Writer - $22 - Asus 24X DRW-24B3L w/ LS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135221

    Switch to the HAF-X ($180) and XFX Black 850 ($130) and ya total jumps $45 to $1,197
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207001


    Here's the basis of the GFX card selection:

    The factory OC'd 560 Ti's perform very close to the 570's. Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game) for the various options (single card / SL or CF) [cost per frame single card - cost per frame in SLI] are tabulated below

    6850 (371/634) [$0.42 - $0.49]
    6950 (479/751) [$0.51 - $0.65]
    560 Ti (455/792) [$0.53 - $0.61]
    6970 (526/825) [$0.64 - $0.81]
    560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) [$0.43 - $0.50]
    570 (524/873) [$0.64 - $0.77]
    580 (616/953) [$0.81 - $1.05]
    6990 (762/903) [$0.95 - $1.61]
    590 (881/982) [$0.79 - $1.43]

    Of course you can shift these results in favor or against any card by repicking the game test suite. I picked Guru3D cause it has one of the widest hardware database on the same suite.

    The Antec Case / PSU combo grows on me a bit more after each build....and yes, I ahve built w/ the HAF-X. Love the DF-85's hot swap / "Fleet Swap" drive bays, cable management is a pleasure, fits CPX form factor PSU's, dust filters ..... PSU gets a 10.0 performance rating from jonnyguru who says :

    http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=142

    Quote:
    It is completely unmatched by any ATX unit on the market I can think of. You'd have to spend twice as much as this thing costs to find the next best thing, performance wise.


    The one thing I both like and dislike about the DF-85 is the locking doors on 5.25" bays....like the security, dislike the extra step of opening the door. If the DF-85's aesthetics don't tickle ya fancy, the HAF-X has most of what the DF-85 has .... want something smaller, look at the Antec 902 V3 (new version w/ front USB 3 port) ...... Assuming you want an alternate 1st tier PSU (10.0 performance rating) for all those other cases which won't fit CPX form factor PSU's, the XFX Black Edition 750 or 850 would meet that criteria (as would the Corsair HX / AX series, Seasonic X series and Antec SG series) but those other ones cost quite a bit more money.

    MoBo / CPU falls into the best bang for the buck category. Ya can move up to the 2600k and WS Revolution but that's gonna add almost $200 to ya bill. You could go cheaper, but methinks this P8P67 pro / i5-2500k is a great pairing worth the investment.

    RAM - I went with CAS 6 RAM cause ya had plenty of room in the budget. Could go with CAS 9 (avoid modules w/ tall heat sinks) and save $45 ... read about the performance difference here:

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/2792/12

    2.3 % (SLI) increase in minimum frame rated w/ DDR3-C6 instead of DDR3-C8 in Far Cry 2
    18% (single card) / 5% (SLI) increase in minimum frame rated w/ C6 instead of C8 in Dawn of war
    15% (single card) / 5% (SLI) increase in minimum frame rated w/ C6 instead of C8 in World in Conflict

    Is a 4% increase in system cost worth those kinds of performance increases ? You decide :)

    Cooler / TIM - Ya really don't need a 3rd party cooler for the 2500k unless you wanna fly past 4.4 Ghz or so. But the Mugen 2 is the best cooler by far < $50 and few TIM can meet Shin Etsu's thermal performance. You could buy the best but SB really doesn't need it:

    http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=674&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=5

    Quote:
    I think the Silver Arrow represents the ultimate air cooler than can be built and still fit within the constraints of an ATX motherboard and a standard computer case. ..... It's almost ironic that coolers like this are becoming available just as processors transition to designs that may ultimately render them unnecessary; even overclocked to 5GHz, an Intel Sandy Bridge 2600K doesn't need anywhere near this level of cooling. Still, it wouldn't hurt, and as I noted earlier, there are still CPUs out there that can benefit from it.


    HD - Spinpoint 3, Seagate 7200.12 or WD Black.... no overall winner among the three, pick the one that does best on your apps.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-3.5-desktop-hard-drive-charts/compare,1016.html?prod[2777]=on&prod[3016]=on&prod[2365]=on
  6. scmg-2100 is a great middle-end cooler but if you wanna get to 4.8+ghz 24/7 I recommend you look at the Silver Arrow, NH-D14, archon, and venemous x or megahalems (with san ace 1011) if you only want to go to around 4.6ghz 24/7 the scmg-2100 should be fine

    also for TIM consider GC-Extreme more applications than G751 and easier to apply
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