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April 6, 2011 3:36:16 AM

Hi guys. I just want to say thank you in advance for any advice.

The story: I have a laptop. Want to sell it to get cash to build desktop. The purpose for this machine will mainly be gaming.

What I have:

Asus g73 Model: G73JHRF-BST7 (Laptop)

Some basic hardware info:
i7 processor
640gig HD
6gigs DDR3 RAM
ATI Radeon HD 5870

I got an email from a guy offering to trade me his Desktop for my laptop. Here is his rig:


Intel Duo Core T7500 2.9ghz Overclocked to 3.6ghz Stable
P5Q-E Motherboard (New 2 weeks old still have box)
6gb DDR2 Ram (16gb Max)
500gb 7200 RPM drive and a 250gb backup
2x 5770 1gb in Crossfire
Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2
Windows 7 Professional
Coolermaster HAF 932 FULL TOWER (new 4 weeks old) Case (new)
Corsair CPU Water Cooler H50 (New 3 weeks old)

Now I know his processor is outdated, but the crossfire 5770s look really nice.

My question is: Should I trade or no?

Thanks so much guys for taking the time to read. :) 
April 6, 2011 4:09:32 AM

i would say no. Even though the crossfire 5770s look nice, the older CPU will bottleneck them, even while overlocked. His computer would be worth somewhere around 700$ resold. I would guess Your laptop would sell for more than a thousand
April 6, 2011 4:23:17 AM

Hmm...Ive been selling it for $900 with no takers. The cpu is severely outdated, but cpus now are fairly inexpensive. I have tried building some desktops on newegg and tigerdirect, and so far ive been needing to spend roughly $900 to make anything decent.
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April 6, 2011 4:44:21 AM

well it depends what you mean by decent. What sort of games do you play and at what resolution?
The laptop you have should play most games fine. Probably pretty close to that desktop. Seeing as you want a deskptop, you could make the trade and then save up to buy a new mobo, cpu, and ram. You would be able to use many things from the deskptop such as the CF 5770s, the H50, the case, the sound card and harddrives. You might even be able to sell the old mobo, ram and cpu.
April 6, 2011 4:53:56 AM

Lol as I was typing this up, I was recommending a processor upgrade, until I saw the socket type, and now its confusing me because the socket type, like PFCBGA6 or some weird one that they don't make processors for, is for laptops. And yet, this build is a desktop? Huh? I would clarify on the socket type of the processor, its not making sense to me.

Are there games this gaming laptop though don't run? I sell this where I work, it even plays Call of Duty fairly nicely.

I only recommend the trade if the processor has an lga775 socket, and your willing to spend $150 for a processor upgrade: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168..., and if you can overclock. Otherwise, no point. Sound card's not even that great compared to what you can get now. Plus, I sell this laptop where I work, and it has EAX Advanced HD 4.0 capabilities already anyway.
April 6, 2011 4:57:14 AM

Edit: Ok nevermind I think you meant to write e7500, because that has the clockspeed of 2.9. Actually, I'm running that same processor with the 9600 gt graphics card. If he managed to overclock that thing that well, I'd say its worth the trade. But I still question the motive.

If your trying to sell that laptop by the way, it retails for $1199.99 at Best Buy, but the other problem is that theres a new model out that replaced it, so its value is less. In fact, a refurbished version goes for $999.99 I believe, so you may need to lower the price to like $800 or $700 for it to sell.

From there though, if you can resell for that value, you can use that money to build a decent rig anyway, which would be the better option, and you can move up to the new i3, i5, or i7 processors.
April 6, 2011 5:09:56 AM

If i sold my laptop, I could build this pc with $100 more left in the budget to play with/ use.



Is this pc I built better than the one he is offering?
April 6, 2011 5:44:58 AM

izicmirza said:
If i sold my laptop, I could build this pc with $100 more left in the budget to play with/ use.

http://i53.tinypic.com/11bkl68.png

Is this pc I built better than the one he is offering?


Absolutely. The graphics card you chose is ranked I think as the third best card in current existence. According to benchmarks too, the graphics card will rate better than his crossfire setup. You can spend that $100 against either a better processor (I'm an intel fan so I'd go the i5 route with a different mobo naturally), or, in my eyes, I'd get the Seagate Momentus XT Solid State Hybrid Drive for $99.99, and get a bracket for it, to replace that Hitachi you chose.

Hard drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Bracket of your choosing. It reccomends one when you add to cart.

I think different power supply is needed though. Requires 38A rail, the one chosen has only 28A on the 12V rail. If anybody can assist on that particular spec, I myself am having trouble with this.

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April 6, 2011 6:10:02 AM
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Checking it out. Your budget is about 806. Yay for calculators.

I have a $600 build in my siggy.
Just change the i3 2100 for a i5 2400. That puts your budget @ $670. With the extra $130 you can switch out the GPU for this 6870.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That puts your $670 computer to $720. Which leaves $80 left. You can add 10$ more in the PSU budget for this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Then you'll have $70. You can use the $20 for the CD/DVD which leaves you with $50. That $50 can be spent on the 8GB DDR3 1333 which leaves with $10 to spare.

i5 2400:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-cor...

i5 2500K vs 970
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/186?vs=288

i3 2100 vs Propus 645
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/188?vs=289
April 6, 2011 1:08:58 PM

Wow! Thanks so much for all the help guys. So much great info. Will definitely just sell laptop and build my own pc with the money.
April 6, 2011 1:21:54 PM

aznshinobi said:
Checking it out. Your budget is about 806. Yay for calculators.

I have a $600 build in my siggy.
Just change the i3 2100 for a i5 2400. That puts your budget @ $670. With the extra $130 you can switch out the GPU for this 6870.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That puts your $670 computer to $720. Which leaves $80 left. You can add 10$ more in the PSU budget for this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Then you'll have $70. You can use the $20 for the CD/DVD which leaves you with $50. That $50 can be spent on the 8GB DDR3 1333 which leaves with $10 to spare.

i5 2400:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-cor...

i5 2500K vs 970
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/186?vs=288

i3 2100 vs Propus 645
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/188?vs=289


Ok so I went with your $600 build, and made the switches you suggested in this post. The final machine came out to be $814. I had to use the second motherboard as the first was out of stock. I also had to get a different hard drive since the one you mentioned in your article was also out of stock.



Thats what I came up with. That look ok?
April 6, 2011 9:45:00 PM

Best answer selected by izicmirza.
April 6, 2011 9:46:14 PM

aznshinobi said:
Yeah!

You don't plan to crossfire do you? If you do, drop that motherboard for this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or wait for the motherboard in my article.


Awesome! Thanks to everyone in the thread. And I will definitely go for crossfire eventually, though to start i probably wont.

Thanks again guys, this forum has helped me more in 24 hours than all other forums ive joined in the past have for YEARS.

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April 6, 2011 10:05:07 PM

Yeah good luck!
April 6, 2011 10:22:07 PM

one more question guys.

The radeon 6870 I have in the above build, are there any graphics cards that I can crossfire that would be ROUGHLY the same price as that one? Or within 50 bucks more?

Let me phrase it a little better. That gpu i have above is roughly $220.

Are there two cards I can get for $280 or less that will do better than that single 6870?
April 6, 2011 10:39:13 PM



This fits my budget PERFECTLY. What do you think? Of all the builds, would this be the best?
April 7, 2011 1:09:46 AM

aznshinobi said:
Save some money on the HDD.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-H...
It would be the best IMO.


Honestly man, ill just stick with the newegg one. To just save $10 isnt worth the trouble of getting it separate of all my other items, then possibly getting it later, and being stuck waiting. lol
April 7, 2011 5:43:57 AM

^ That's after MIR but yes you could do that to. The 460 1GB is basically the 6790 so you wouldnt really see a big difference from 6790 to 6850 cf.
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