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March 13, 2012 1:07:32 PM

Hi there noticed some problems within my PC. I hope I can get help. Please look at the event viewer screens.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3808/29877401.png

If there is anything else info or images I will upload.

Hope someone can help as a technician is due round tomorrow thanks

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a c 716 V Motherboard
March 13, 2012 1:54:31 PM

All I can see, barely, is that some drive is performing poorly. This can happen for a variety of reasons: incorrect driver, corrupted MBR, bad physical drive, bad sector(s), etc.

Q - Please explain more about your PC, age, what specific drive, pre-built OEM or home built, etc. Then list all of your components.

Q - BIOS, what changes above e.g. (F5) Load Optimized Defaults did you change?

Q - In the Event Manager are there other [+] Critical errors? If so what are they.

For now I'd do (2) simple things:
1. Run 'Fix It' to make sure the BIOS (AHCI/RAID/IDE) are set correctly - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976
2. Schedule both Scan System Files & Sectors for ALL drives (depending on size/speed of drives 20~45+ minutes):
March 13, 2012 5:37:39 PM

PC is not even a year old and used for gaming. All of a sudden went to boot and nothing happened no bios or anything the speaker did not even beep.

I removed my gpu and placed a gtx 570 in. Took out a stick of ram and it finally booted. I have used all three ram sticks and I am sure they are fine.

It is home built and had no problems what so ever before. I have since checked 3dMark and GPU is fine apparently.

SPECS

AMD Phenom 2 x4 955 BE
ASUS M4A78LT-M
ASUS GTX 570 DIRECT CUII
4GB (3X2GB) DDR3 @ 1066
XFX CORE EDITION 850WATT
HAF 922
SAMSUNG SYNCMASTER 23INCH

http://imageshack.us/g/195/72730142.png/


Also note I am overclocking my cpu from 3.2 - 3.6 No extra voltage on a stock fan

Someone on here said it would be fine..
Thanks for your reply
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March 13, 2012 5:40:52 PM

EDIT

PC is not even a year old and used for gaming. All of a sudden went to boot and nothing happened no bios or anything the speaker did not even beep.

I removed my gpu and placed a gtx 280 in. Took out a stick of ram and it finally booted. I have used all three ram sticks and I am sure they are fine.

It is home built and had no problems what so ever before. I have since checked 3dMark and GPU is fine apparently.

SPECS



Windows 7
64bit

AMD Phenom 2 x4 955 BE
ASUS M4A78LT-M
ASUS GTX 570 DIRECT CUII
4GB (3X2GB) DDR3 @ 1066
XFX CORE EDITION 850WATT
HAF 922
SAMSUNG SYNCMASTER 23INCH

http://imageshack.us/g/195/72730142.png/


Also note I am overclocking my cpu from 3.2 - 3.6 No extra voltage on a stock fan

Someone on here said it would be fine..
Thanks for your reply

a c 716 V Motherboard
March 13, 2012 6:05:10 PM

Unless you have a speaker connected to the Front Panel then you won't hear anything until Windows boots.

From what you mentioned "Took out a stick of ram and it finally booted." if the RAM is fine then maybe the DIMM slot aka MOBO isn't so fine. About the only thing that can be done is to clean the DIMM slot - dampen RAM contact with Isopropyl alcohol,insert into DIMM slot, remove and clean, repeat 2~3 times, wipe clean and allow to dry 5~10 minutes then reinsert RAM and test again.

This is what I meant by Event Manger [+] Critical:
March 13, 2012 6:48:05 PM

Ok I will get some Isopropyl alcohol and do as mentioned. Could that be the problem regarding

Background optimizations (prefetching) took longer to complete, resulting in a performance degradation in the system start up process:
Name : BackgroundPrefetchTime
Total Time : 31051ms
Degradation Time : 1051ms
Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2012‎-‎03‎-‎13T13:26:47.718400400Z

Or could this be something else.

Computer Management

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7764/theonen.png
a c 150 V Motherboard
March 13, 2012 7:12:16 PM

what you got in the warning when you open it for details
March 13, 2012 7:19:02 PM

WARNING-This driver took longer to initialize, resulting in a performance degradation in the system start up process:
File Name : AFD
Friendly Name : Ancillary Function Driver for WinSock
Version : 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
Total Time : 6695ms
Degradation Time : 5195ms
Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2012‎-‎03‎-‎13T20:13:38.734000400Z
March 13, 2012 7:21:35 PM

Bear in mind, having 3 identical sticks of ram can effect things, some mobos dont like having that, if your running dual channel on two slots, the third matched stick can cause problems with things, it shouldnt but it could, try makimg sure any dual channel is turned off, might slightly reduce performance, but if it works it works :) 
a c 150 V Motherboard
March 13, 2012 7:29:07 PM

Matt_1 you got a good point this board support dual channel
March 13, 2012 7:29:08 PM

Thanks Matt I will disable DCT in bios it was just odd to have had this problem from no where
a c 716 V Motherboard
March 13, 2012 7:35:13 PM

None of what you posted are 'Critical Errors'. This other than the RAM are probably a combination of Drivers and tasks like SFC/Sector repairs to solve. If those errors are coming from a non-primary drive, then look at the Power Management -> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976877 and don't allow any SSD/HDD drive to sleep. A time-out especially on a mechanical HDD is common place if it spins-down.

I assume that you followed so far none of my advice posted:

A. Make certain that you have install all of the latest drivers for your OS; M4A78LT-M - http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4A78LTM/#down... I assume when you installed the OS you installed ALL of the drivers including the chipset and Other including the AMD AHCI/RAID driver.

// I do (#2) as normal maintenance to keep the System and drives in good health //
For now I'd do (2) simple things:
1. Run 'Fix It' to make sure the BIOS (AHCI/RAID/IDE) are set correctly - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976
2. Schedule both Scan System Files & Sectors for ALL drives (depending on size/speed of drives 20~45+ minutes):

March 13, 2012 7:59:03 PM

jaquith said:
None of what you posted are 'Critical Errors'. This other than the RAM are probably a combination of Drivers and tasks like SFC/Sector repairs to solve. If those errors are coming from a non-primary drive, then look at the Power Management -> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976877 and don't allow any SSD/HDD drive to sleep. A time-out especially on a mechanical HDD is common place if it spins-down.

I assume that you followed so far none of my advice posted:

A. Make certain that you have install all of the latest drivers for your OS; M4A78LT-M - http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4A78LTM/#down... I assume when you installed the OS you installed ALL of the drivers including the chipset and Other including the AMD AHCI/RAID driver.

// I do (#2) as normal maintenance to keep the System and drives in good health //
For now I'd do (2) simple things:
1. Run 'Fix It' to make sure the BIOS (AHCI/RAID/IDE) are set correctly - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976
2. Schedule both Scan System Files & Sectors for ALL drives (depending on size/speed of drives 20~45+ minutes):


Thanks for helpful reply. I am going to use the fix it tool and then Scan System Files & Sectors for ALL drives. I have updated BIOS. The chipset driver is for ATI and I have Nvidia. I was doing a memtest but will now do what you have mentioned.

Thanks again
March 14, 2012 11:28:23 AM

Have done as you have said only thing I have not done is clean the ram with Isopropyl alcohol which I am going to get today. I have seen improvement in my system but the problem after windows logo boot where screen black for 5 seconds is still here. Should I not bother with Event viewer telling me there is a critical and errors still.
a c 716 V Motherboard
March 14, 2012 1:03:40 PM

Next and possibly last resort. If a drive is >80% filled that's typically not good for a mechanical HDD. Further, I assume that you have Automatic i.e. scheduled Defragmentation of the drive Enabled/Task Scheduled.

I would run Disk Defragmentation and Analyze the drive(s).

Q - How old is this drive?
Q - Do you hear 'Clicking' sounds?
March 14, 2012 3:31:15 PM

Its not 80% filled as done a fresh install. I do not have Automatic i.e. scheduled Defragmentation but will enable.

The drive is about two years old
And yes I do hear clicking sounds when it loads

Thanks for your help again.
PS the amd driver actually installed a north bridge driver which I never had so thanks again
a c 716 V Motherboard
March 14, 2012 3:46:12 PM

Clicking or often called 'Clicks of Death' often indicates a failing drive. Most HDD's have a 3~5 year warranty so IMO RMA the HDD @ the HDD's and go to the manufacturer's website to setup an RMA.

Any drive that's been used for a while and if installing a fresh OS it's best to do a Full Formatting of 'Secure Format' it takes a while but the entire surface is checked and bad areas are omitted from R/W.

I had one fail in a few days, sporadic and yes the clicking - http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/Jaquith/BAD_H...
March 14, 2012 4:03:50 PM

I brought the HDD from a pc builder website and funny enough had many problems with them and they went bust so I'll go to the manufactures website. Should I have everything closed while defragmentation.
a c 716 V Motherboard
March 14, 2012 4:49:56 PM

It's best to run MSCONFIG and select Diagnostic which basically shuts down all bu the essentials or use a Defragmentation application to boot off to shut everything down.

The HDD's OEM is the 'true warranty' and even if the PC manufacturer was in business they may have pointed you to HDD's OEM anyway.

All defragmentation is going to do is to reduce seek times. It won't correct the clicking from a failing HDD. Someday when you get an SSD they don't require or have use of defragmentation -- fragmentation doen't apply (data + address) it's irrelevant.
March 14, 2012 6:06:37 PM

Thanks for all your help jaquith learned a few things. Might just SSD pretty sure everything is in working order now
a c 716 V Motherboard
March 14, 2012 6:59:08 PM

Let me know and Good Luck! :) 
March 15, 2012 2:24:20 PM

Done a system health report and everything seems fine but I am concerned that my CPU now idles at 37-40c before it was 27c Noticing less performance in BF3 than I used to. Might just sell current rig and save up for a Ivy Bridge sometime soon.
a c 716 V Motherboard
March 15, 2012 3:11:41 PM

Mid 30's is normal, 27C is a cold startup temp. If you're running 4GB vs 6GB, BTW its best to run RAM in pairs 2x2GB or 4x2GB or 2x2GB + 2x4GB, then that's the difference.

Here's an article on RAM and Frame rates, if there's no free or the 'Shared' isn't at it's maximum then sure you lose some rendering (FPS); article - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ram-memory-upgrade,...

Shared - http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/Jaquith/WEI_H...

It's best to have some (Free) RAM - http://i1013.photobucket.com/albums/af254/Jaquith/RM_7P...
a b V Motherboard
March 15, 2012 4:54:42 PM

Reformat the HDD and Fresh install Win 7 and then install all the drivers that came with you motherboard, then update all the drivers. But first back up all your important files or data in an external drive.
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