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April 6, 2011 10:53:57 PM
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April 7, 2011 1:29:47 AM

Well, the motherboard has been de-activated at Newegg. Not a good sign.
This is a better case and is cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The PSU is waayyy overkill. You shouldn't need anything over 650-750 watts and could probably get away with 550-650, as long as it is a quality unit(Corsair, Seasonic, PCP&C, Antec, XFX Black Edition). I'd wait to select ram until I've selected a Motherboard, then get what will work with the motherboard.
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April 7, 2011 9:45:55 PM

I would consider a LGA 1155 Sandy Bridge set up. even the lowly i3 3120 beets the that CPU for gaming and is $10 less
here is a better solution:

RAM/CPU/MB:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That PSU is not good
PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Better GPU for $20 more
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

if it over your budget, we could scale the CPU and the Speed/CL of the ram to save some $. even doing that it will still be a superior system than what you have built.

Proof:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-cor...
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April 7, 2011 10:53:51 PM

The Power supply you showed is only 750wt. I am putting in 1000wt. Yes that is overkill.

I admit the one you showed me has the silver rating while mine only has the bronze. Something to consider. How much of a difference would that make?

I don't particularly care for Intel much. I am sticking with AMD. Yes Intel does have the nice I5s and I7s. Those are also more expensive. And some of them have been buggy for friends who have bought them.

The video card I am undecided on. However, I do want the Crossfire. So that means Radeon. *shrugs* And since ATI got bought out by AMD they've been improving quite a lot.

I like that new case. Can fit more fans in it.

I'm also looking into Liquid cooling. Never done that before, however. Not certain about how to go about it.
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a b U Graphics card
April 7, 2011 11:52:24 PM

CPU: i5-2500K

Mobo: P67 LGA 1155 8x/8x PCI-e lanes, not 16x/4x

RAM: if those 8GB of G.Skill 1600MHz CL9 goes on sale for $75 newegg.

HDD: Samsung Spintpoint F3 1TB--same performance as WD Black 1TB, but often on sale for $55 on Newegg.

PSU: Only buy Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, XFX, or Johnny Guru reviewed PSUs. There are exceptions, but they need amazing reviews to be considered. All other brands are either too expensive (PC Power & Cooling, etc.) or tend to overrate their PSUs (Logysis rates its 350W PSUs for 575W). 850W is all you need for dual GTX 570's--that's not to say you can't get more but it would be overkill like an i7-2600K.

Case: You need to make sure it's big enough for the graphics you want with solid airflow. Size also matters for elaborate CPU coolers. The Antec 300 Illusion is $55 w/ free shipping on Newegg today. It'll be $70 + shipping in a couple days.

DVD: Any cheap DVD Burner will do

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212+ is one of the best and the cheapest. Look up reviews before you get anything else. The Noctua DH14 is the best. But it's too expensive and I'm not a fan of the color taupe.

Graphics: Radeon HD 6950 2GB and flash it to the unlocked 6950 bios that gets 6970 performance. Or a GTX 560 Ti. Or a Radeon 5870 for $180 on Newegg.


Sorry, I pasted this from something I wrote on another thread that's pretty applicable.
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April 7, 2011 11:55:56 PM

To comment on your second post: AMD has no competitive processors out right now. Wait for Bulldozer or buy Intel. Or throw your money out the window on a 965. At least get the 955 instead since it's the same CPU for $20 less.

Water cooling--don't bother if you're spending less than $1600 on your rig. Just get a Hyper 212+ air cooler.

The most important part of your build is your graphics. Sacrifice everywhere else for better graphics. What is your budget and what is your current monitor? I suggest you start here and post a new thread: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...
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April 8, 2011 12:03:36 AM

1) A bit of education on psu's.
It is not the wattage that counts, but the combined amps on the 12v rails that counts.
That rosewill 1000w unit has 52 combined amps,
the 650w XFX has 53:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
There are other factors. Go with XFX,Corsair, Seasonic, Antec, or PC P&C and you can't go wrong.

2) I suggest a good single graphics card vs. crossfire. It will run cooler, take less power, and preserve your option to upgrade in the future. Some games do not scale well with multiple gpu's.

3) Do look at sandy bridge, they are shockingly fast. Clock for clock, they are 20% faster than amd, and if overclocked, they will go higher. Using 32nm manufacturing, they also run cooler. Intel discovered a minor issue with P67 3gb sata ports, and have replaced they all. There is no more problem.
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April 8, 2011 12:06:15 AM

I can't say your parts selection makes much sense to me. I'd buy 650 watt or 750 watt Corsair power supply or Seasonic over anything from Rosewill. You don't need 1000 watts and you won't get them from the one you've picked out anyway (at least not without a lot of ripple). Even if you put 2 6850s in that case you'll be fine with a quality 750 watt, better in fact than "bling." Modular is also kind of blah... How hard is it to tuck away some extra cables? I'd rather have soldered connections than plugs.

I love AMD. But there's no way I'd buy anything other than Sandy Bridge at this moment in time. AMD is two generations behind right now and it shows. If you are absolutely set on AMD than you should wait for bulldozer to launch. As far as Intel being "buggy for friends" testimonial isn't worth much as evidence. There are a lot of components and software (and users) that can make a computer "buggy." Laying it on Intel is just silly. It's like blaming Windows for everything that goes wrong with a machine. Until they trouble shoot their problem and actually identify what it is I wouldn't listen to them.

That's my two cents.
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