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April 7, 2011 5:30:11 AM

I have an old Dell 4100. I want to keep the case, but change out the motherboard and everything else inside. I want to use this computer for basic things like web surfing, school work, viewing videos/dvds, storing pics and videos and editing (maybe even basic gaming). The computer has a 200W PSU. My budget is $200 if possible. I need some suggestions to find something with bang for my bucks. Thanks.
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April 7, 2011 9:04:03 AM

neiru said:
I have an old Dell 4100. I want to keep the case, but change out the motherboard and everything else inside. I want to use this computer for basic things like web surfing, school work, viewing videos/dvds, storing pics and videos and editing (maybe even basic gaming). The computer has a 200W PSU. My budget is $200 if possible. I need some suggestions to find something with bang for my bucks. Thanks.



Sorry, but that computer is too old. I think it was a Pentium III with an AT motherboard. I don't even think a new MB would line up with any of the holes in the case. also the PSU is AT and not compatible with modern ATX mother boards and a ATX Power supply wont fit in the AT case either.

for about $450 I could put together something that you could do basic things and mild gaming on.

do you have a modern monitor/LCD?
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April 7, 2011 11:08:00 AM

You'll have to buy a new case and power supply, $50. If you go with an AMD cpu and motherboard with on-board video, maybe $90. Memory will run at least $50... Hard drive, CD-ROM, operating system... you're looking at closer to $400+ just as jerreddredd said...
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April 7, 2011 11:41:33 AM

jerreddredd said:
Sorry, but that computer is too old. I think it was a Pentium III with an AT motherboard. I don't even think a new MB would line up with any of the holes in the case. also the PSU is AT and not compatible with modern ATX mother boards and a ATX Power supply wont fit in the AT case either.

for about $450 I could put together something that you could do basic things and mild gaming on.

do you have a modern monitor/LCD?


I have a modern monitor. I was really hoping to use my old case. Don't want to waste the computer. Thanks for the reply.
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April 7, 2011 12:18:12 PM

Yes the computer is old 2000. But it has an ATX motherboard. The case will fit a standard ATX motherboard. But I am not sure about the dimensions of the case for other parts.
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April 7, 2011 12:27:01 PM

neiru said:
Yes the computer is old 2000. But it has an ATX motherboard. The case will fit a standard ATX motherboard. But I am not sure about the dimensions of the case for other parts.


So it has an ATX MB? how about the Power supply is it ATX form factor?
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April 7, 2011 12:52:58 PM

this link talks about the upgrade possibilities of your DELL 4100. basically it's not worth trying to save even the case. Too much is Dell proprietary built.

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3...

if yours is the Tower an not the desktop version you might salvage the case, but the front panel wiring may not attach correctly to a ATX or mATX MB. too much work when you can get a nice new case for $30-40.
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April 7, 2011 6:34:22 PM

Thanks. You're right. It's too much of a Dell proprietary built. The power supply would not work with another motherboard. Might as well just start from scratch.
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April 7, 2011 6:34:36 PM

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April 8, 2011 2:56:19 AM

jerreddredd said:
this might be a solution for you:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...

i might not play any game well, but for $200...

you could pep it up some with a dedicated GPU for +$60

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

you could put anything more beefier with out replacing the PSU.


Thanks for the suggestion.

Would this work?

AMD Athlon II x 250 regor 3.0 GHz.
Biostar A880G + AM3
Antec 300 Illusion
TP link TL-WN78ND
Samsung 500 gb SATA II

I'm not sure about a PSU and GPU. Thanks.
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April 8, 2011 10:27:02 AM

neiru said:
Thanks for the suggestion.

Would this work?

AMD Athlon II x 250 regor 3.0 GHz.
Biostar A880G + AM3
Antec 300 Illusion
TP link TL-WN78ND
Samsung 500 gb SATA II

I'm not sure about a PSU and GPU. Thanks.


looks good. I think the Antec 300 is a little pricey for a budget built. I'm not sure what "TP link TL-WN78ND" is, so I can't comment on that.

For a budget rig and mild gaming the minimum would be:
PSU:
Corsair Builder Series 430W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
ATI HD 5570
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

you will need DDR3 ram also
If you are putting XP on it 2GB is fine:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you are putting Win 7 or Vista, 4 GB's:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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This what a complete budget system would look like from newegg using the parts you mentioned and the parts you were unsure about (assume Win 7, if only going with XP swap out ram mentioned above and save a few $ if you want or keep it in the build for future upgrade):

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135204
$20.99

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811129066
-$15.00 Instant
$69.99
$54.99

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822152181
$49.99

BIOSTAR A880G+ AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813138283
$69.99

PowerColor AX5570 1GBD3-H Radeon HD 5570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Item #: N82E16814131342
-$5.00 Instant
$15.00 Mail-in Rebate
$69.99
$64.99

CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 CMPSU-430CX 430W ATX12V Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139017
-$5.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$49.99
$44.99

Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model ...
Item #: N82E16820146748
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$39.99

AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor ADX250OCGMBOX
Item #: N82E16819103903
$60.99
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$406.92 Shipping is only about $7 and there are some mail-in rebates also


As a alternate case I suggest a NZXT Gamma (its $10 net less expensive)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

if live near a microcenter there maybe some savings thru them.
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April 10, 2011 6:10:30 PM

Would these parts work out?

Antec VP-450W ATX 12 V
Asrock 770 extreme 3
Amd Athlon ii x4 640
Roswill destroyer
muskin silverline 4gb 2x2gb
power color ax5570 1gb
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April 10, 2011 7:17:14 PM

neiru said:
Would these parts work out?

Antec VP-450W ATX 12 V
Asrock 770 extreme 3
Amd Athlon ii x4 640
Roswill destroyer
muskin silverline 4gb 2x2gb
power color ax5570 1gb



PSU - good brand
MB - good reviews
Case - to each his own (no negatives)
GPU - Good Budget choice

CPU:
I'm not a fan of the Propus Quad Core CPU because of there lack or L3 cache. but this is a good budget CPU for your stated purpose.


not sure what model Mushkin Silverline ram you are looking at, but these have been troublesome in the past for reviewers.
Model 996947
Model 996585
Model 996768

these are cheaper, same speed and more reliable:
Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model 996586

other than the RAM it a good build. the ram may be ok, but if you don't have to chance it, I wouldn't. If its part of a combo deal then go for it.
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April 10, 2011 8:41:58 PM

Thanks a lot. You have been very helpful.
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