ATI Readon 5770 HD or GTX 460

[RememberMe]

listen this is my computer

Core 2 Duo E7200 2.53GHz(OCed to 3.2GHz)
Nvidia 9500gt 1gb ddr2(sucks i know lol)
motherboard GIGABYTE 945GCM-S2L
PSU JTC 500W

i need a good medium-high end graphics card so i can go with GTX 460 instead of 5770
i don't know if my computer will hold it...

 

[minitron815]

For $15 more the 460 768 beats the piss out of the 5770.

Your computer should be fine with either of those cards; anything above the 460 may bottleneck.

That PSU sounds pretty bad but I'd just pop in the card and see if it boots up before getting a new PSU.

 

[RememberMe]

that chance can't frie my pc?

 

[RememberMe]

someone?

 

[minitron815]

It's possible but I would doubt it; it's drawing power directly into the video card so technically no more power goes through your motherboard.

If you want to be really safe you can pick up a Corsair or Antec 400-450W for $40ish.

 

[RememberMe]

but that's less Watt

 

[Mousemonkey]

someone?

Don't...
* Bump posts, claim "first!"

Source.
Patience is a virtue.

 

[minitron815]

Amperes ratings for the 12V is much more important; this powers the CPU and GPU, which consume 80-95% of power in a typical system.

In general high quality power supplies will have more amps over the +12V rails than cheap ones; Most of the 400W or 450W (36-38 amps) is over the 12V rails for good PSUs while your 500W generic brand might only have 250W or 300W (20-25 amps) over the 12V rails. For a single card video cad you would want 350W (29 amps) or more over the +12V; for SLI/CF you would want over 500W over these rails.

 

[sartorius]

I doubt he'd be going multi GPU, and neither card uses a lot of power.

Though right now his best bet would be this Radeon HD 6850 for $139. It's faster than both the GTX 460 and the 5770 and uses less power than the former.

I swear I'm gonna keep linking people to this insane deal until it's taken down. Way too good to pass up.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

PSU JTC 500W
"but that's less Watt"

just because it says 500w doesnt mean it can produce 500w continuous power. Cheap power supplies like that are rated in PEAK power and will likely only deliver around 300w continuous. an Antec Earthwatts 380w will be able to produce more continuous power than that crap "500w" psu you have.

 

[RememberMe]

so i don't want an expensive psu, just something that will hold this system with a good graphics card, and that Radeon HD 6850 - my cpu could bottleneck it, no?
i'm a completely noob in pcs :|

 

[mrjericho1991]

gtx 460 all the way.best bang for the holy bucks

 

[Onus]

A 768GB GTX460 and a HD5770 perform similarly. The 1GB GTX460 is a little stronger, but "beats the piss out of" is an ignorant [noobish | fanboy] remark.
I would not trust that PSU, especially with a GTX460. If it can't hack the load, and blows, it will probably take other parts with it; that's not a risk I'd care to take.
Replace your PSU first. A quality modern PSU has full range active PFC (no little voltage switch) and 80+ certification. Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, Enermax, and XFX are among the better brands.

 

[minitron815]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/296?vs=315

So being 20-40% faster is "a little stronger?"

No that's straight up a beatdown.

Both the 460 versions are significantly better than the 5770; if you can't accept that then you've obviously got your thumbs up AMD's ass.

They aren't even comparable; the 460s compare to 5830s and 6850s.

Anyone who doesn't pony up $15 for the 460 over the 5770 is mentally retarded.

 

[benski]

so i don't want an expensive psu, just something that will hold this system with a good graphics card, and that Radeon HD 6850 - my cpu could bottleneck it, no?
i'm a completely noob in pcs :|

You can't get too good of a graphics card, don't worry about a bottleneck, it's an overused term and the concept is only usefull in matching parts so that you don't waste money in a build, it's not like having a better GPU makes your CPU perform worse, you will just have extra overhead and the GPU might not be fully utilized all the time, but if it's the same price as an inferior one who give a crap.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/296?vs=315

So being 20-40% faster is "a little stronger?"

No that's straight up a beatdown.

Both the 460 versions are significantly better than the 5770; if you can't accept that then you've obviously got your thumbs up AMD's ass.

They aren't even comparable; the 460s compare to 5830s and 6850s.

Anyone who doesn't pony up $15 for the 460 over the 5770 is mentally retarded.

fair enough its faster, but where im from its about $50 difference between the 5770 ($127) and 460se ($179), the full 460 is another $20 again. Im amazed the pricing where your looking is so close. Are you finding the most expensive 5770 vs the cheapest 460?

 

[minitron815]

There's a lot of MIRs going around

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6491183&CatId=3670

$90 after $60 MIR; $150 for the 460 is still a much better deal than $130 for a 5770.

Twin frozr for $150 - $20 MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127519

460 1gb for $180-20 MIR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127551
Stupid cheap if the MIRs come through.

 

[sartorius]

If I were you, OP, I would totally go for this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127519R]this.

It's a GTX 460 Twin Frozr II for $114. It's open box, but for that price it'd totally be worth it.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

i wish i could get MIR in Australia,. 114 for that twin fozr is insanely good.