470 SLI

[irfan88]

Hi,

Below are my specifications that I have already bought:

Phenom II x4 955BE 3.2ghz
Asus M4N75TD SLI mob (750a)
4GB 1600Mhz Corsair XMS3
Cooler Master Elite 430 Case (have 3 120mm fans installed)
Seagate 500GB SATA
Cooler Master GX 750W PSU



please tell me if I can run 2 GTX 470's in SLI with that PSU. I have already bought the PSU.

 

[Maziar]

Yes,it can handle 2 470's fine.

 

[Griffolion]

Why don't you get two 560Ti's?

 

[irfan88]

those are expensive in india. I am just planning to get a single 460 or a 470 now and then later on sli another card when required.

 

[karan_kewlz]

Hi
I'm Karan from new Delhi. In my opinion if you are planning on SLIing in future, don't do so. I made the same mistake 2 years back. I bought the MSI GTS 250 OC at that time. I didnt have the funds for the second card so I thought I would get one after 6-8 months, by then the prices would come down because of the launch of a new generation. After 6 months I went to Nehru Place in New Delhi to buy another GTS 250 OC but couldnt find any GTS 250 with same specs in the entire Nehru Place market.
an dby entire market I mean entire market (SMC, Cost to cost, computer empire, mass computers, RR systems, alsun systems, computer infinite and the list goes on). I am not kidding. I curse myself till this day for having made that mistake. The moral of the story is that if to go for SLI buy the graphics card at the same time, because there is very high probability that you might not find that same graphic card with same specs "later".I have MSI 790i Ultra SLI Motherboard and I know what it feels like having paid a premium price Rs +20K for this motherboard and using it with a single GTS 250. i would be glad if you would learn from my mistake (cause it would really hurt to see someone in my position, I am not kidding).

These are Indian markets, trend change,demand changes, availability changes over night. THIS ISN'T NEWEGG (respect).

Anyway, where you from ?
I am now planning on GTX 560 SLI myself, but i dont think that GTX 560s' have been launched in Indian markets as yet.

 

[irfan88]

I am from bangalore. thank you for your inputs.


I think I have already done a mistake buying an sli motherboard for the same reason as you did.

Well, in that case. what do you suggest. I play games at 1680*1050 resolution monitor and I will not be upgrading my monitor. its enough for me.

so should I go with a GTX 460, 470 or a 560 (not released in india).


one more thing (do not purchase an OC card because its hard to find them after a certain period. Always go for a stock card because you can SLI them with any brand card (msi, asus, zotac or any other brand). What say!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mousemonkey]

Stock cards and OC'd cards can also be SLi'd together.

 

[irfan88]

so what would happen, does the stock card get overclocked or the overclocked card get underclocked.

 

[Pc Guru_07]

i recommend that you avoid multi gpu setups.if you do make sure your house is air conditioned.High ambient temp along with heat produced by two cards will overheat one card for sure.And that cpu will badly bottleneck multigpu setup.Its an ancient cpu!AMD chipset and sli is never a good idea.

 

[Mousemonkey]

so what would happen, does the stock card get overclocked or the overclocked card get underclocked.

They used to with the older drivers but I think they just stay at their default clockspeeds these days, so if you do go down that route just run the OC card in the primary slot then use something like Afterburner to balance out the core speeds if you want them at similar levels.

 

[karan_kewlz]

i think you should go for a GTX 560, reason :

1. You have the funds to go for any of the 3 graphic cards.
GTX 470 is GF100, which (GF1000 has been know for it heat problems
GTX 460 is a nice card, bang for buck, and if GF104
GTX 560 is very near to GTX 470 in terms of performance to GTX 470 and is GF 114. If you check out GTX 560 reviews on newegg, a lot of people have been able to get their GTX 560s' (especially MSI ones) to 1 Ghz from stock clock of 822 Mhz, which is a very nice overclock that too without even bumping the voltages.

2. Some may say that lauching another generation is a marketing stunt(renaming the card GTX 460 (what it supposed to be) to GTX 560), we cant disagree that company HAS refined its architecture and has made some changes at the basic level (as i have indicated in point 1. i.e. GF**)

3. Since you have the option of going for a newer, faster,somewhat cooler card, I think you should go for it. Having a relatively faster card, you wont have to go for graphic card upgrade earlier in comparison to other situation. It will provide you with peace of mind that you went for a newer card, relatively somewhat better than the other two.

4. i think that if you aren't in urgency to buy a graphic card you should wait till the launch of AMD HD 6990 as it 'MAY' see a price drop. 6990 is scheduled for Q1 2011 (probably FEB 2011).

I hope all this helps you in deciding what to do.

 

[EXT64]

A single 460, 560, or 470 will be way more than adequate for 1680x1050. I am quite happy with my 470 at 1920x1080. I say go with a single card and don't worry about it. However, if you get the 470, try to get one with a decent cooler. What brands/versions of the 470 do they have over there?

 

[Embra]

A single 460, 560, or 470 will be way more than adequate for 1680x1050. I am quite happy with my 470 at 1920x1080. I say go with a single card and don't worry about it. However, if you get the 470, try to get one with a decent cooler. What brands/versions of the 470 do they have over there?

^ +1 ... totally agree ... at 1680x1080, a 470 will play everything nicely.

 

[irfan88]

we only have zotac gtx 470 here in india. MSI is out of stock.

I have heard that zotac 470 runs hotter. So I would not buy it after hearing all your reviews.

so do you say that multi GPU setup is not good for my SLI computer. Do you recommend only a single card setup!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (GTX 460 or a 560)

 

[EXT64]

Is that the reference Zotac 470? (In other words, looks like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500157 )

If so, I would not recommend getting it.

As for 460 vs 560, are the 560's available there yet? If they are, what is the price difference between a 460 and a 560? At 1680x1050, a 460 will do fairly well in most games and a 560 will do very well in most games.

 

[17seconds]

You could go for two GTX460's in SLI. They will be cooler than a single GTX470 and easily outperform it for less money.

 

[Embra]

Is the room your computer in cool? Heat could become and issue with 470 in SLI. Have you a good case with good air flow?

 

[karan_kewlz]

a pair of GTX 460 in SLI would easily beat down a GTX 580, if you over clock them. But the the average fps of GTX 460 SLI would be less than that the average fps a single GTX 580. Also, with GTX 460 you wouldnt be able to go 3 way SLI as they are onlt 2 way SLI enabled. If you plan on going for 460 SLI, go for the 1 GB versions, they'll give you better AA and FPS at higher resolutions, But beyond 1080p, they'll have less fps being limited by 1 GB ram.

 

[karan_kewlz]

For more info About GTX 580 vs GTX 460 SLI, visit my thread here at tomshardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/305198-33-tomshardware

 

[irfan88]

Ok, I will not get the GTX 470 as it runs hot.


I am not going for ATI as I have an nforce motherboard (ASUS M4N75TD). If I go for an nvidia card, I would atleast be future proof of adding the same kind of graphics card instead of buying a different one.

So for 1680*1050, I will probably settle for a GTX 460 or a 560 when it gets released in india.

The price of the 560 would be atleast Rs.4500 greater than a 460 in india.