Intel Vs Amd Build

[lm_jsph718]

which do you recommend?

ASUS Crosshair IV Formula
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black edition
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB
ASUS DRW-24B1ST
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-850TX 850W
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3
Azza Hurrican / Nxzt Phantom
XFX 6850

Or

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge
MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) / ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) / ASUS SABERTOOTH P67 (REV 3.0)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB
ASUS DRW-24B1ST
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-850TX 850W
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3
Azza Hurrican / Nxzt Phantom
XFX 6850

 

[Why_Me]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=288 <----- Which one would you want ?

btw both of those builds aren't anything that would be recommended. What's with an 850w psu and a measly 6850 ?

 

[itserenity]

ASUS Crosshair IV Formula

I love this board. I just wished it allowed the option of not Over Clocking on the low end side of the Phenom II X6 line.

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black edition

I have a LAMP config. (Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP servers). I do see good utilization of even the 6th core. Ubuntu isso fast on this machine, that apps are loaded and running before you can take your finger of the mouse button after clicking on an icon.

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB

I was a Samsung FAN... but I have found that Hitachi is the Strongest Drive on the market. Closely followed by WD and Samsung. This info comes from years of techs replacing dead drives. Hitachi's are the least likely to be replaced because they died.

I have a pile of WD and a stack of Samsungs that all died within 14 months of service. I have only had 1 Hitachi arrive DOA, just last week actually, already RMA'd with out a single question.

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-850TX 850W

Unless you plan on pushing 3 or 4 high end video cards. This is over kill. No one needs more than a 550W PSU. I am running 12 Hard Drives in my box. All on a 550VX. No Worries!

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3

I prefer Corsair memory. 100% solid 100% of the time. And they stand behind their product for life.

XFX 6850

Nice middle of the road video card. Should handle anything you throw at it... I have a XFX GT240XZHFC GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 video card. This plays all my Full HD non-interlaced movies just fine and I got it for $70.

My machine is lightening fast. I will be configuring it to the maximum amount of ram soon. My logs show that 8GB is almost completely consumed a few times a day. With double the leg room, my system will have no problems.


As far as Intel goes... it took them more than a year to come up with something close to AMD's Phenom II series... and except for brute force over clocking, AMD still beats Intel in real world applications.

One would think that in that time period, Intel would have lit the whole PC industry on fire with their latest and greatest. Instead, they had to shoot it when it left the gate and broke it's leg.

People can throw all the bench marks they want at a System. But unless you work on an Intel and an AMD system, both configured to the hilt, then you can not compare. I do this every day. It is my job to know the hardware my customers are demanding. I only make recommendations based on my observations. The customer is always right.

 

[Why_Me]

ASUS Crosshair IV Formula

I love this board. I just wished it allowed the option of not Over Clocking on the low end side of the Phenom II X6 line.

AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black edition

I have a LAMP config. (Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP servers). I do see good utilization of even the 6th core. Ubuntu isso fast on this machine, that apps are loaded and running before you can take your finger of the mouse button after clicking on an icon.

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB

I was a Samsung FAN... but I have found that Hitachi is the Strongest Drive on the market. Closely followed by WD and Samsung. This info comes from years of techs replacing dead drives. Hitachi's are the least likely to be replaced because they died.

I have a pile of WD and a stack of Samsungs that all died within 14 months of service. I have only had 1 Hitachi arrive DOA, just last week actually, already RMA'd with out a single question.

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-850TX 850W

Unless you plan on pushing 3 or 4 high end video cards. This is over kill. No one needs more than a 550W PSU. I am running 12 Hard Drives in my box. All on a 550VX. No Worries!

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3

I prefer Corsair memory. 100% solid 100% of the time. And they stand behind their product for life.

XFX 6850

Nice middle of the road video card. Should handle anything you throw at it... I have a XFX GT240XZHFC GeForce GT 240 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 video card. This plays all my Full HD non-interlaced movies just fine and I got it for $70.

My machine is lightening fast. I will be configuring it to the maximum amount of ram soon. My logs show that 8GB is almost completely consumed a few times a day. With double the leg room, my system will have no problems.


As far as Intel goes... it took them more than a year to come up with something close to AMD's Phenom II series... and except for brute force over clocking, AMD still beats Intel in real world applications.

One would think that in that time period, Intel would have lit the whole PC industry on fire with their latest and greatest. Instead, they had to shoot it when it left the gate and broke it's leg.

People can throw all the bench marks they want at a System. But unless you work on an Intel and an AMD system, both configured to the hilt, then you can not compare. I do this every day. It is my job to know the hardware my customers are demanding. I only make recommendations based on my observations. The customer is always right.

I'm not sure how long you have been posting on here at Toms, but we have a general rule of thumb on here. It's called; "If you don't know what your bloody talking about, don't be giving advice on here." It's a decent rule imo that most of us try to abide by.

AMD hasn't beaten Intel in jack crap since the release of the C2D back in '06. Now if you have some links to benchmarks showing different than what I just posted, then feel free to post them on this thread. Otherwise I'm calling you out and saying what everyone else on this board knows....that your full of it.

 

[itserenity]

Can you blow any harder?

 

[Why_Me]

Can you blow any harder?

I still don't see the links to any benchmarks from you. No surprise seeing how there isn't any showing anything AMD beating the 2500K. Try again ?

 

[lm_jsph718]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=288 <----- Which one would you want ?

btw both of those builds aren't anything that would be recommended. What's with an 850w psu and a measly 6850 ?

Intel
i chose 850W bcause i wanna spend only 1time for PSU and im planning to add 1 6850 this summer.
but do you think 750W ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 ) will support 2 6850 GPUs and my other specs?

1more Q
which do u recommend?

MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) or ASUS P8P67 Pro?

 

[Why_Me]

i chose 850W bcause i wanna spend only 1time for PSU and im planning to add 1 6850 this summer.
but do you think 750W ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 ) will support 2 6850 GPUs and my other specs?

1more Q
which do u recommend?

MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) or ASUS P8P67 Pro?

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice <---- If you could take just a quick minute or two and do a "copy & paste" of this on this thread and fill it out, it would give me a much better idea of what advice to give. Information like budget, monitor resolution, etc... it would really help.

 

[zooted]

^a 650 would support 2 6850's with ease, and please don't take itserenity's advice as he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about.

 

[lm_jsph718]

Approximate Purchase Date: (This Week or nxt)


Budget Range: ($900-$1100)


System Usage from Most to Least Important: (gaming, surfing the internet, designing with PS and C4D)


Parts Not Required: (keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS)


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (e.g.: newegg.com,amazon,doesnt matter 2 me)


Country of Origin: (CA)


Parts Preferences: (Intel)


Overclocking: Maybe


SLI or Crossfire:Maybe


Monitor Resolution: (1680x1050 or 1920x1080)

 

[Why_Me]

Seeing how you live in Cali, try and get as many components from amazon as possible so you don't get hosed on the taxes.

This build is set up so that you can add another one of those factory over clocked gtx 560's later on for SLI.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-RC-922M-KKN1-GP-Black/dp/B0026FCI2U/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1302375143&sr=1-4 $99.98 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master HAF ATX Mid Tower Case, RC-922M-KKN1-GP (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Truepower-TP-750-BLUE-Management/dp/B001RTPMM4/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1302375220&sr=1-6 $99.99
Antec Truepower 23754 TP-750 BLUE LED 750-Watt PSU NVIDIA SLI Certified 80 Plus Bronze Advanced Hybrid Cable Management Power Supply

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-P67X4B3&title=ASRock-P67-EXTREME4-B3-LGA1155-Intel-P67-B3-DDR3-Quad-SLI-Quad-CrossFireX-SATA3-USB3-0-A-GbE-ATX-Motherboard $164.99 Free Shipping
ASRock P67 EXTREME4 B3 LGA1155/ Intel P67 B3/ DDR3/ Quad SLI & Quad CrossFireX/ SATA3&USB3.0/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EBUXHQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=AZ8ZZL30AH7DI $229.99 Free Shipping via Circuit City
Intel Core i5 Processor i5-2500K 3.3GHz 6MB LGA1155 CPU BOX80623I52500K

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER $29.51 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-HD103SJ/dp/B001U3S5S0/ref=sr_1_1?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1302375709&sr=1-1 $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ

http://www.amazon.com/Lite-LightScribe-Layer-Drive-IHAS424-98/dp/B002SIMPXM/ref=pd_cart_recs_4 $25.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98 - Retail (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Express-N560GTX-TWIN-FROZR/dp/B004JLNZXU $249.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI GeForce GTX560 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express Video Card N560GTX TI TWIN FROZR II OC

Total: $1,060.42 *not including shipping, etc...

http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000116#axzz1EqpvWFEN <---Review on that Asrock motherboard after the latest bios update

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1098/pg2/asrock-extreme4-p67-and-fatal1ty-professional-p67-vs-x58-with-core-i7-950-review-asrock-p67-extreme4.html <---Review on that Asrock motherboard after the latest bios update

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4080/welcome-to-sandy-bridge-with-the-asrock-p67-extreme4 <--- Review before the latest bios...and it still smoked the Asus and Gigabyte boards

http://www.asrock.com/news/events/201102ex/warranty.html <---- Asrock two year warranty

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=P67%20Extreme4 <----- ASRock P67 Extreme4 Motherboard

 

[lm_jsph718]

Seeing how you live in Cali, try and get as many components from amazon as possible so you don't get hosed on the taxes.

This build is set up so that you can add another one of those factory over clocked gtx 560's later on for SLI.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-RC-922M-KKN1-GP-Black/dp/B0026FCI2U/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1302375143&sr=1-4 $99.98 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master HAF ATX Mid Tower Case, RC-922M-KKN1-GP (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Truepower-TP-750-BLUE-Management/dp/B001RTPMM4/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1302375220&sr=1-6 $99.99
Antec Truepower 23754 TP-750 BLUE LED 750-Watt PSU NVIDIA SLI Certified 80 Plus Bronze Advanced Hybrid Cable Management Power Supply

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-P67X4B3&title=ASRock-P67-EXTREME4-B3-LGA1155-Intel-P67-B3-DDR3-Quad-SLI-Quad-CrossFireX-SATA3-USB3-0-A-GbE-ATX-Motherboard $164.99 Free Shipping
ASRock P67 EXTREME4 B3 LGA1155/ Intel P67 B3/ DDR3/ Quad SLI & Quad CrossFireX/ SATA3&USB3.0/ A&GbE/ ATX Motherboard

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EBUXHQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=AZ8ZZL30AH7DI $229.99 Free Shipping via Circuit City
Intel Core i5 Processor i5-2500K 3.3GHz 6MB LGA1155 CPU BOX80623I52500K

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER $29.51 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-HD103SJ/dp/B001U3S5S0/ref=sr_1_1?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1302375709&sr=1-1 $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ

http://www.amazon.com/Lite-LightScribe-Layer-Drive-IHAS424-98/dp/B002SIMPXM/ref=pd_cart_recs_4 $25.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98 - Retail (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Express-N560GTX-TWIN-FROZR/dp/B004JLNZXU $249.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI GeForce GTX560 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express Video Card N560GTX TI TWIN FROZR II OC

Total: $1,060.42 *not including shipping, etc...

http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000116#axzz1EqpvWFEN <---Review on that Asrock motherboard after the latest bios update

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1098/pg2/asrock-extreme4-p67-and-fatal1ty-professional-p67-vs-x58-with-core-i7-950-review-asrock-p67-extreme4.html <---Review on that Asrock motherboard after the latest bios update

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4080/welcome-to-sandy-bridge-with-the-asrock-p67-extreme4 <--- Review before the latest bios...and it still smoked the Asus and Gigabyte boards

http://www.asrock.com/news/events/201102ex/warranty.html <---- Asrock two year warranty

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=P67%20Extreme4 <----- ASRock P67 Extreme4 Motherboard

why cant i choose the best answer >:/

i kinda like ur build

do you think with that build, do i need Full tower? or mid?

 

[Why_Me]

why cant i choose the best answer >:/

i kinda like ur build

do you think with that build, do i need Full tower? or mid?

Most Cooler Master mid towers are as large if not larger than other manufacturers full towers. It's the same with Corsair mid towers. That and those 560's are short compared to the 570's, 580's, and the AMD cards.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197 <--- CM 922 HAF (mid tower)

Dimensions(L x W x H)

22.20" x 10.00" x 19.70"

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021 <--- Antec 900 (mid tower)

Dimensions(L x W x H)

18.40" x 8.10" x 19.40"