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April 9, 2011 7:02:21 PM

I am considering building my own for the first time, and the combos at NewEgg seem like a good idea to me, since they come with all the main components.

I want to build something ~ $600 which will be upgradeable later on if need be. I don't do intense gaming; the most demanding game would be The Sims 3.

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Here is the deal I am looking at:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...

Phenom II X6/880G/DDR3/1TB SuperCombo
This SuperCombo includes:

* AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor (Model:HDT55TFBGRBOX)
* MSI AM3 AMD 880G HDMI Micro ATX Motherboard (Model:880GM-E41)
* G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Desktop Memory (Model:F3-10600CL9D-4GBNT)
* Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (Model:ST31000528AS)
* LG Black 24X DVD+/-R 2MB Cache SATA DVD Writer (Model:GH24NS50) - OEM
* HEC Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 585W Power Supply (Model:6C28BBX585)
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Is this more than I would need, or less?

ETA: The price is $374.99.

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April 9, 2011 7:07:48 PM

What will you be doing with this build? TS3 doesn't need a six core, but a proper GPU it does.

The combo is alright at best, the case and PSU is subpar, you get an extra SATA cable to throw away, and there are better cheaper parts out there.
April 9, 2011 7:48:09 PM

I am planning on buying a decent graphics card for it, but good to know the six core is more than needed. It will mostly be for storage, video streaming, and like I said, the most graphic and memory-eating game I play is The Sims 3.

What I'm concerned about is buying parts that turn out to be incompatible; I've only upgraded parts before, never started from scratch.

I came across the System Builder Marathon here (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-pc-ph...) $500 gaming PC, which sounds excellent.

However, the CPU is no longer in stock at NewEgg. What would be comparable to the AMD Phenom II X4 925?
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April 9, 2011 10:16:48 PM

So all together I am looking at:

- Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I32100
- ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
- Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
- Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
- SILVERSTONE ST40F-ES 400W ATX 12V 2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
- GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
- Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

That puts me just under $500, and I mainly chose parts based on the info at http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore . Is the GeForce GTS 250 going to work with that power supply? Or anything else I should be concerned about?

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April 9, 2011 10:46:34 PM
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In your case, you really don't need very high specs, even a $75 Athlon II Tri-core can satisfy your needs.

The i3 is a great CPU however, but with an old power hungry GTS250 you pretty much even out its power efficiency. You would rather get a 2500K, HD3000 should handle TS3 with ease, and you get a (almost overkillingly) powerful CPU that can last you for a LONG time; especially with the option to OC in the future (The i3 is completely locked in this regard IIRC).

When do you need this PC by though? It feels like AMD's upcoming Llano chips are great for your needs (light gaming/decent performance/low price); that should come out late may.
April 10, 2011 1:00:48 AM

The i5-2500k sounds like it will suit me better, and I can get rid of the geforce card. Will the Asus h61 motherboard still work with it? I read that the p67 chipset will not unlock the hd3000 graphics.

ETA: Forgot to say, I'm looking to make a good start on it soon, even though it may take me a month or so to finish.
April 10, 2011 1:11:42 AM

Elysian said:
The i5-2500k sounds like it will suit me better, and I can get rid of the geforce card. Will the Asus h61 motherboard still work with it? I read that the p67 chipset will not unlock the hd3000 graphics.

The H61 board would work fine, but no (real) OC on the CPU side. Nor does some H67 board either IIRC.

P67 doesn't have IGP enabled, so its not an viable option. For IGP+SLI/CFX+OC you'll have to wait for Z68.
April 10, 2011 2:20:44 AM

Yeah it's messup up, you can't use on-cpu graphics with P67, but you can't overclock on H61/H67.
April 10, 2011 4:04:38 AM

I may wait to get the Z68, since it is supposed to come out at the beginning (or end, they are very vague) of May. I'm planning on buying a few parts at a time, depending on how much money I can bear to part with on a weekly basis. So I will hold off on the motherboard for now and see if Z68 is worth the wait.

Sounds like either way I should have plenty of power for what I need. Thanks for your help, guys. Feeling a little more educated about what I'm getting now.
April 10, 2011 2:48:51 PM

Yeah I don't think a Z68 is going to fit in your $600 budget.
April 10, 2011 5:29:32 PM

You are probably right about that; I'll keep my budget for now and maybe upgrade in the future to the z68. With the h61 I am a little over $500 and actually do not have any of my old computer parts to salvage since I left my old machine when I moved. So I still need to buy all the extra bits which will put me over $600 but hopefully not too far.
April 20, 2011 5:11:22 AM

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