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April 10, 2011 4:14:47 AM

I need a new rig to take with me to college. My old computer just is not cutting it any longer. I want a powerhouse because i plan to use the computer to watch HD movies and play games so I want something that can handle everything that I throw at it.

Approximate Purchase Date: By the end of May.

Budget Range: $1600


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Mainly for gaming and watching HD video. I plan to hook it up via HDMI to a plasma tv for watching movies. I also plan to play games such as heroes of newerth, starcraft, and diablo 3 when it comes out

Parts Not Required: I already have the keyboard, mouse, widescreen monitor (1920 x 1080 Native)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I prefer to order my parts from Newegg.com.

Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences: I want an Intel i7 Sandy Bridge, I like EVGA nvidia graphics, Asus or Gygabite for Mobo.

Overclocking: Yes


SLI or Crossfire: Maybe


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080


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April 10, 2011 5:04:50 AM

This is the build that i have come up with so far.

Case: COOLER MASTER Black Steel ATX Full Tower Compucase Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply: CORSAIR HX Series 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD7-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card: EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

One of the main things im concerned about is the mobo. I am torn between the asus maximus and the gygabite. I know that this has been discussed in this forum before however i'd like to hear your thoughts as they pertain to how i will be using this machine.
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April 10, 2011 5:59:53 AM

wareagle316 said:
This is the build that i have come up with so far.

Case: COOLER MASTER Black Steel ATX Full Tower Compucase Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Far too much $$ on a case that doesn't have the greatest cooling for its price range.
A CM Storm Scout also looks nice and is much cheaper, and is RED/BLACK like the 932.


Power Supply: CORSAIR HX Series 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Too expensive, but good quality, a better and similiar quality and newer product is recommended below in my post


Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD7-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Too expensive, esp. if not SLI'ing

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For gaming, the i5 2500k is sufficient - $100 saved and exact same performance.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287

Just look at the gaming benchmarks - +1% in each. Plus saves $100 for GPU.

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you like the looks, its nice quality Ram so good choice. but get the 2x2Gb version, its better. You can get 2 sets of these 2x2 GB versions
Video Card: EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

sli'ing other cards is a better option, striking that a single 580 is pretty good. But a 570 is enough for diablo 2 etc, with a second 570 added on if you decide you need it.

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD5002AALX 500GB 7200


RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

These are expensive and not that fast.

CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Needed if overclocking.

One of the main things im concerned about is the mobo. I am torn between the asus maximus and the gygabite. I know that this has been discussed in this forum before however i'd like to hear your thoughts as they pertain to how i will be using this machine.


I've quoted and italicized a critique of why you should/should not pick what you have in my quote of your post, with a build in my actual post.



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CPU: i5 2500k $225 Get the non 'k' version if you aren't OCing. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Double the space, $2 more than your HDD ($65). Faster too. A $50 version is 500GB if you want.

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Easy to carry to/from college during breaks. $80

Power supply: If dead set on getting a GTX 580. Get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $70 AR

IF you want SLI GTX 570s/6970s/6950's (better performance per $ by a mile) get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$95 AR (750W, plenty for Ocing)

If you want a GTX 590/6990 (Not recommended) get the 750W just in case (OCing too).

If you want SLI 580's.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $110. 850W.
I didn't like XFX that much, but their great quality and low prices are certainly endearing.

Just to let you know, a GTX 460 768mb would be suffice, a GTX 560Ti would be the sweet spot.. GTX 570 quite overkill for your needs, unless you start playing really demanding GAMES. (Crysis2 etc).

Motherboard: Unsure, depends if SLIing or not, and I'm not going to recommend something that I'm shaky on any ways (Mobos , havent researched). Another user or just getting a nice $250 for SLI or basic $175 mobo from a good brand should suffice. (P67 not H67 ty). Make sure also it supports 1600MHZ (Not "O.C" for 1600MHz..) and it runs SLI at (8x/8x) ..

RAM: The one you have selected is very good. BUT get 2 sets of 2x2 GB (8GB total) if you really want, but a single 2x2 set is enough. MAKE sure youget a 2x2 set not a 2x4GB set.. its better k? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Get 2 of these if you want 8gb, but 4gb is enough for gaming.

Video card (GPU): I'd recommend getting 2 x GTX 570s or 2x GTX 560Tis. But thats my opinion. A single 580 will be excellent in terms of simplicity, less issues etc, but it is not that great in terms of price performance - SLI is generally better that way (2 cards).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Getting two of these will cost $300 each AR. Thats $600 for 2. These are nicely factory overclocked and a really good brand, as well as the cheapest available.

The GTX 580 is around $475+++ , 2 570's $600, and well, even at stock frequency's, you'll get 160% of the performance of a single 580 from the 2 570s. Your choice.

Cooler Hyper 212 you selected. Good option $30.
An SSD is possibly in order if you feel like it, look around for a 120GB SSD recommended by someone else.

All up; $1360 allowing for a $250 mobo. The other $240 can be used for an SSD. I'd like to help with the mobo, but the scant research i looked at has provided all 'out of stock' models at the newegg site.

Good luck!
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April 10, 2011 9:13:44 PM

Thanks for the very detailed reply, Vibhas. I have deiced to take you advice for the most part. I decided after reading your post that i want to go with 2 GTX 570s (Decided to go with 2 EVGAs though). Along with that change i have also changed my RAM to 4 sticks of 2GB. I'm not sure that i want to change my motherboard and im a little iffy about the CPU. That being said i have a few questions.

Firstly, i would like to know if my understanding of core i5s and i7s is correct. To my understanding i5s lack hyperthreading which is a technology that allows the i7 to make virtual cores (Up to 8 i think). What i want to know is what type of applications utilize those cores and if hyperthreading would be beneficial to me for how i'm going to be using the computer.

Second, i would like to know how high the i5 can be overclocked compared to the i7 and whether the difference is significant enough to merit the 90 dollar difference.

Third, does anyone have any advice where motherboards are concerned.

Fourth, i'm concerned about the computer case being too small to fit 2 570s and that big cpu fan. Do you think that it can fit all that or should i search for a Full ATX tower?
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April 10, 2011 9:22:03 PM

Many single video cards do fine at 1080P; IMO, even a single 570 is more than adequate...

Recommend a pair of 4 GB mem sticks over quad 2 GB sticks....
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April 11, 2011 1:16:20 AM

Ooooo thanks for reminding me mdd1963.

My other question was why 4 2GB sticks instead of 2 4GB sticks?
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April 11, 2011 8:27:51 AM

wareagle316 said:
Thanks for the very detailed reply, Vibhas. I have deiced to take you advice for the most part. I decided after reading your post that i want to go with 2 GTX 570s (Decided to go with 2 EVGAs though). Along with that change i have also changed my RAM to 4 sticks of 2GB. I'm not sure that i want to change my motherboard and im a little iffy about the CPU. That being said i have a few questions.

Firstly, i would like to know if my understanding of core i5s and i7s is correct. To my understanding i5s lack hyperthreading which is a technology that allows the i7 to make virtual cores (Up to 8 i think). What i want to know is what type of applications utilize those cores and if hyperthreading would be beneficial to me for how i'm going to be using the computer.

Second, i would like to know how high the i5 can be overclocked compared to the i7 and whether the difference is significant enough to merit the 90 dollar difference.

Third, does anyone have any advice where motherboards are concerned.

Fourth, i'm concerned about the computer case being too small to fit 2 570s and that big cpu fan. Do you think that it can fit all that or should i search for a Full ATX tower?


You are welcome, EVGA is a very reputable brand too, and its certainly up to you if you want to spend extra on your preferred brand. Sorry about the RAM issue, I was confused at the time, if they are the same cost, get 2x4GB sticks. It puts less strain on the memory controller thus is slightly superior. If the same cost go for the bigger stick. The hyperthreading you talk about is counter-intuitive - It hurts performance SLIGHTLY in gaming, but is excellent for multi-tasking. Ask yourself if you are going to be gaming more or need that extra performance in winzipping 50 things at the same time whilst encoding and gaming. If you get the i7, either you'll want to turn off Hyper threading in games, or go with the i5. The i5 without HT is better for gaming at 5.0ghz than the i7 at 5.0ghz with HT on. Furthermore, they are overclockable to the same level. So for gaming, with HT off and overclocking to 5.0ghz, they are the same, cept with i5 is $100 cheaper. The 2 GTX 570s will fit in the case, but depends where you stick the fan... lol. If you are going for modest overclocks or high overclocks (4.5GHZ+) keep the UD7 motherboard you picked. I had assumed that you weren't going to overclock, or overclock much .. since you are the mobo is worth it. With 2 570s you can keep your HAF932 if you want, the bigger volume will give better airflow.

But this case is better quality, and looks really good too and cheaper.. lian li is pretty much top notch quality..Stick some extra fans for better cooling ( although SLI recently is a lot better as there is much less additional heat in a 2 card setup compared to the same card in a single card setup now than there was a few years ago) and make sure you get your Hyper 212!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


wareagle316 said:
Ooooo thanks for reminding me mdd1963.

My other question was why 4 2GB sticks instead of 2 4GB sticks?


2 4GB sticks, my bad sorry. BUY THIS TODAY $75 RAM that is the same quality as the one you wanted to buy, the Ripjaws X series is out of stock and more expensive.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , $100, but with a $25 coupon code (No mail in rebate required), just type it in at the card coupon code slot in your shopping card. Its 2x4gb ram too, 1600MHz, ripjaws and a good quality ripjaws. Ticks all the boxes, literally order now. Oh, and make sure you get a Spinpoint HDD.
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April 17, 2011 12:44:03 PM

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