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~450 $ gaming OC PC

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April 12, 2011 3:37:05 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: probably the end of the month(04.2011)

Budget Range: before debate ~450 $/after rebate 500$ tops

System Usage from Most to Least Important: games,internet, movies

Parts Not Required: keyboard,monitor,mouse,cd/dvd reader/writer,

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: none

Country of Origin: Bulgaria

Parts Preferences: So far I've found:

Processor: phenom II x4 955 BE for 174 $ OR
athlon II x4 645 for 139$

GPU: Radeon HD 5570 for 87.5$ OR
Radeon HD 5670 for 101$

Motherboard: Asrock 880GM-LE for 85$

HDD there are a few 500GB ones on promotion @ about 51$

Power supply @40$

RAM 2x2GB @60$

Overclocking: Yes!

SLI or Crossfire: Yes if possible

Monitor Resolution: 1280x1024)

Additional Comments: Since its a budget PC, AMD and ATI would be my first choices. Overclocking is a must! Oh and will someone tell me if the MB and GPU would run Crossfire?

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April 12, 2011 7:45:36 PM

Stick with the phenom II x4 955 BE processor.

The motherboard you have chosen ( Asrock 880GM-LE for 85$) will not support crossfire.

I recommend MSI 870A-G55 AM3 for just $15 more at $99. It supports crossfire.

Make sure that you have at least a 700W power supply if you are going to attempt crossfire. Below is a link to a unit that will work for $60.

The HD 5670 will support Crossfire. If you can, bump up to a HD 5770 or, even better, HD 6790.

Have fun.
April 12, 2011 8:00:29 PM

those parts will be more expensive in Bulgaria.

I'd stick with the 880 and the 955. but rather than crossfiring 2x5770s, I'd just get a single 6850
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April 12, 2011 9:18:18 PM

+1 to a single 6850. Always better to get a more powerful single card now. If you get two lower level cards, then when you want to upgrade you have to get rid of both of them. Definitely stick with the 955, with a cheap cooler like a Cooler Master 212+, you can easily get 3.6 GHz without changing the voltage.
April 13, 2011 5:37:08 AM

I thought I can crossfire the Integrated AMD Radeon HD 4250 graphics on the motherboard with the 5670 or 5570. But seeing as you write about crossfiring two 5770, can I? Probably not.

Since I'm going to use a monitor with a max resolution of 1280x1024, will it really matter which one of the 5570 or 5670 GPU's I use?

The 6850 GPU is too pricey here - 330$!!!!

I guess buying a cooler will be an option in the near future, but not initially.
April 13, 2011 10:21:19 AM

Any PSU with a little voltage switch (e.g. that Chokemax) should be avoided if at all possible. A quality modern PSU has full range active PFC (no little voltage switch) and at least 80+ certification for efficiency. Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, Enermax, and XFX are among the better brands. FSP probably is too. If it has "max" in its name and isn't Enermax, the "max" is a reference to the number and expense of the parts it will take with it when it dies, or the size of the pyrotechnic display.
A single HD5670 will work well for your resolution, and not require a big PSU; 300W would be enough.
April 14, 2011 5:24:29 AM

Thanks for the suggestions guys. My decision is made.
April 14, 2011 9:51:14 AM

What did you decide?
April 14, 2011 10:05:54 AM

So far:

Phenom II x4 955 BE
Asrock 880 GM-LE(says it supports Crossfire and has a built in GPU Radeon HD 4250 graphics, can I crossfire it with the 5570 or 5670?)
Radeon HD 5570 or 5670 if I have the money, if not I'll buy it after a few months when I have it
2x2 GB RAM
500W PSU
April 14, 2011 10:22:03 AM

What PSU?
April 14, 2011 10:49:45 AM

You can only crossfire/SLI with two of the same cards!
Trying to CF with on-board GPU and dedicated will not work.
April 14, 2011 4:51:42 PM

The onboard 4250 can only crossfire with a very limited anount of low end cards, and most of the time, performance actually went down in games. I'm running a 5670 with a Intel Q6600 stock speeds and it plays everything at 1080p at least medium settings with no Anti-aliasing. But getting a 5770 if you could would be a huge increase over the 5670.
April 15, 2011 4:37:47 AM

Onus said:
What PSU?

I don't really know, any suggestions in the low price sector? Would a 400W ,460 W or 500W one make any difference?

Thanks for your answers guys!
April 15, 2011 11:26:24 AM

A quality modern PSU will have full range active PFC (no little voltage switch) and be at least 80+ certified for efficiency. Antec, Seasonic, Corsair, and Enermax are among the better brands that have products in the 380W-450W range that would be sufficient for you. FSP would also be decent. Sunbeam, Apevia, Coolermaster, and anything with "max" in its name other than Enermax will be junk. Antec Earthwatts models in particular are often sold around here for very good prices. I do not have access to the site mosox linked from work, so I don't know what brands are available to you.
April 15, 2011 1:16:13 PM

Antec is making a gamer series of PSU, I'm getting one with 520 watts and a 48v amp. It would seem like a good choice for you too as its not to pricey and future proof for more power hungry vid cards
April 15, 2011 1:56:37 PM

Good suggestions guys! Thanks again!
April 15, 2011 8:48:45 PM

Any of those mosox linked would be decent.
April 16, 2011 6:29:41 AM

Will buying more RAM be worth it, performance and money wise? For instance buying a single 4GB initially, then adding another 4GB.
April 16, 2011 9:01:56 AM

you'll get more performance out of a 2x2 dual channel ram than a single 4gb stick.

if you can swing the extra 8GB won't hurt, but isn't really necessary
April 16, 2011 12:05:05 PM

Good to know. :)