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Gaming PC for a good price? HELP!

I have been looking for a good gaming PC for sometime now and I need help or your opinion if you think it is a good deal or that there are better PC's for cheaper. I want to be able to play games like RIFT, COD, Crysis 2 etc. on ultra high settings without lag. I dont know how to build a PC myself so I have been looking at cyberpower PC and I was wondering if you think this is the best desktop for the best deal. Remember I want to be able to play on ultra settings for the games. Here is a link to the website. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_P67_Configurator/ READ BELOW BEFORE CLICKING LINK

I dont know alot about gaming cumputers, does this rig have a good motherboard? Would I be able to overclock GPU or CPU? Whats better Windows 32-bit or 64-bit? I will be playing on the 22" Widescreen 1920x1080 Sceptre X226W 5ms (Viewable 21.5 inch) LCD (Black Color) w/ Built-in D-Sub & DVI Input [+159](on the website). Is it worth the money for FHD and will it slow down FPS? Is it worht the money to upgrade to the 500GB x 2 (1TB Capacity) Raid 0 Extreme Performance? I have a 26" tv with HDMI ports can just play on the tv? (without too small resolution or too big for screen)

Just so you know I will be upgrading to the
- AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card
- 500GB x 2 (1TB Capacity) Raid 0 Extreme Performance
- Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit Edition
- 700 Watts - XtremeGear SLI/CrossFireX Ready Power Supply
- 22" Widescreen 1920x1080 Sceptre X226W 5ms (Viewable 21.5 inch) LCD (Black Color) w/ Built-in D-Sub & DVI Input

This will run about $1366
If you know of a better deal so I can play on ultra settings with no lag? Please let me know Thanks!
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  1. That's a pretty good deal without building your own. The only suggestion would be to get eSata 3 drives, if your motherboard will allow it. Also a SSD, wouldn't hurt. They are expensive though. The video card should handle a lot and your screen size won't slow hurt you graphically. When you start to get up to 40", that's when you start having trouble. I have an old 9800GTX and I edited video on a 46" Samsung 60HZ.

    With your lag, you better have a solid connection. I would say at least 10mbps.
  2. You did not state case, cpu, hsf, ram and mobo. I'd suggest the haf 912 for the case, the default hsf is fine, and 2gbx2 1600 ram if not 4gbx2. For cpu/mobo it depends are you going to OC or crossfire? You'd need to get a gigabyte ud4 for cf otherwise the ud3 is fine for single. Although the Asus P8P67 Pro is usually suggested on the forums here.

    The gpu is good. The raid hdds will give better load times, thats really your decision if you want it. You want 64bit OS. The PSU is a mystery brand and is most likely low quality, Id suggest the Corsair CMPSU-750TX which will also be enough crossfire. You can play on that tv, do you know what resolution it is? The inches dont matter its the resolution that does. You could get a better monitor elsewhere for that price. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236117&nm_mc=EMC-GD04132011&cm_mmc=EMC-GD04132011-_-index-_-Item-_-24-236-117 Theres a 48hr sale on this one $165.
  3. Well I didnt state any of those because I was going to go with the default items on the link I posted. I will post all of the specs below for you and you can tell me if this is a good deal. I dont know what crossfire means, is it so you can place 2 gpu's? If so I dont really want 2 I just want one where I can play RIFT, COD, Crysis 2 on ultra with good fps about 35+. I'm not looking to build a PC with 300fps on ultra. And I was thinking about OC the gpu but I dont think I will need it now, maybe sometime in the future when more advanced games come out but for now I just want a fps with at least 35+ on ultra. I would like better load times also that why I picked the 0 Raid. Does It really matter what kind of case I get? The mobo is where it confuses me, I dont really know what kind to get and Im only using one gpu maybe I will overclock it in the future but not now if it isnt needed. Does it really matter what brand of PSU I have? I will post all specs below. Oh and the tv I have is 1366x768 hd 720p. WHen I choose 500GB x 2 (1TB Capacity) Raid 0 Extreme Performance, does that mean I have 1TB or 500GB?

    Specs for $1207

    Case: * Apevia X-Plorer 2 Mid-Tower Case w/ Side-Panel Window and MultiMeter Display (Black Color with 200mm UV Blue LED Fan)

    Internal USB Extension Module: None

    Neon Light Upgrade: None

    Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default case fans

    Noise Reduction Technology: None

    CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-2500K 3.30 GHz 6M Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)

    Freebies: None

    Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking

    Cooling Fan: XtremeGear Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)

    Motherboard: * [CrossFireX] GigaByte GA-P67A-UD3-B3 Intel P67 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2x SATA-III RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 3 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI [B3 Stepping]

    Motherboard Expansion Card: None

    Memory: 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)

    Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card [+348] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)

    Video Card 2: None

    Video Card 3: None

    Dedicated PHYSX Card: None

    Multiple Video Card Settings: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors

    Power Supply Upgrade: 700 Watts - XtremeGear SLI/CrossFireX Ready Power Supply [+14]

    Hard Drive: 500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [-14] (500GB x 2 (1TB Capacity) Raid 0 Extreme Performance [+40])

    Data Hard Drive: None

    Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None

    External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None

    USB Flash Drive: None

    Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)

    Optical Drive 2: None

    Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

    3D Vision Glasses: None

    LCD Monitor: None

    2nd Monitor: None

    3rd Monitor: None

    Speakers: None

    Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network

    Network Switch: None

    Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard

    Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse

    Mouse Pad: None

    Gaming Gear: None

    Extra Thermal Display: None

    Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None

    External Wireless Network Card: None

    Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None

    Bluetooth: None

    Flash Media Reader/Writer: None

    Video Camera: None

    Headset: None

    Printer: None

    Cable: None

    Power Protection: None

    Surge Protector: None

    IEEE1394 Card: None

    USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

    Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition)

    Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None

    Office Suite: None

    Games: None

    Ultra Care Option: None

    Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

    Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
  4. That rig should easily let you play everything on Ultra on your television. It's not a bad price for a prebuilt (considering the warranty support) and has room for upgrades in the future.

    Is the Xtreme gear liquid cooling similar to one of the ACL domino or Corsair prebuilt coolers? If it is I think you'd be better off with a traditional, high quality air cooler if it's an option. Generally liquid cooling needs to be custom built to be worth it and then it's only an advantage to those who are serious overclockers who are also going to liquid cool their gpus with large, external radiators (there's no need to overclock the system your buying--you won't get higher framerates). Plus, prebuilt liquid coolers aren't usually more efficient or quieter than a traditional air cooler becuase they have small radiators.
  5. Ya the default LC is like the corsair or asetek, but the deal they have makes it a good choice.

    The case helps keeps things cool, the haf 912 is one of the best low priced cases, only $6 more than the default apevia (which looks ugly too, imo).

    You don't want to go cheap on a PSU, since if it goes out, it could take out your whole system. Low quality PSUs usually don't even provide the power that's stated and low quality components have a higher chance of going out. The 650W corsair would be good but the site gives a warning for some reason. The last link on this post shows power consumption of a similar system.

    Crossfire is multi ati graphics card. Since you're only going with one, the gigabyte ud3 is fine, and has the option to OC if you want to later. I know it says crossfire on the site but the other slot its only a x4 so its not a good idea to crossfire on it.

    When you raid 0 500gbx2 hdds, it'll show as one 1tb hdd.

    For ram, just an fyi, you're filling up all 4 slots, probably doesn't matter to you.

    The 6970 is an overkill on that resolution. The 6950 would be a better price/performance, and still gets 35+ fps at 1080p if you choose to upgrade monitor. It could also be flashed to a 6970. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-2-performance-best-graphics-card-multiplayer,2901-5.html

    Similar build to the $1000 build. Just to show that you could save a couple hundred building it yourself and give you some idea of the performance you'll get. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6950-unlock-build-a-pc-overclock,2893.html

    Edit: promo code "NORUSH" gets 5% off
  6. Skip the RAID-0. If either drive fails, you lose everything, and the speed increase is nothing compared to a SSD. Get just one drive for now, and save your pennies towards an 80-128GB SSD later.
    I play MMO/RPG type games, and couldn't see spending another $350 on a video card; but then I haven't tried Rift yet. Even my GTX560Ti seems a little overkill; I had Guild Wars maxed at 1920x1080 with a HD5770. I bought it hoping it would last for years though.
    That PSU is an unknown, therefor I wouldn't trust it. Corsair PSUs are known to be good, across the board.
    The one Apevia case I ever bought was so flimsy and had such quality issues that despite an otherwise excellent design, I ended up junking it.
    Other places to save money include dropping back to 4GB of RAM, and if not overclocking, get the i5-2500 or even i5-2400.
  7. And is What do you mean by overkill? And I have no idea how to build a desktop, if its hard, do I need certain tools, can I mess something up and fry the whole system? If I could I would build my own desktop and it would save me a lot of money but I don't know how to do it! And is it bad that I'm filling up all four spots for ram?
  8. In this sense, it means excessive power. At that tv's resolution you could probably get 100fps+ on crysis 2 hardcore detail but it can only show up to 60 and for most people 30 is fine. Building your own pc is pretty easy, don't need any tools but a screwdriver. Here's Tom's how to guide http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/274745-31-step-step-guide-building and here's a random youtube video how to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1NxsHpaL_s
  9. What about parts? What is the 3 most iportant things I need to keep in mind for. Lik gpu,cpu,ram, motherboard. I don't even know where to begin. And I would like to play on ultra with no lag
  10. please look at your private messages
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  12. Best answer selected by b-dub92.
  13. Thanks for helping everyone. I geuss I will probably end up building my own pc since its a lot cheaper. If anyone else has better options or advice pleas tell! :)
  14. oh and I forgot to mention k1114 the guy from cyberpower pc said you need at least 800watts of psu for the hd 6970 and at least 750for the hd 6950
  15. i bet i can match your own build price if not beat it shipping included.
  16. The cyberpower guy is stating a higher wattage to cover lower quality power supplies, even ati/amd/nvidia state a higher wattage psu for the same reason. Search this forum and I'm sure all the builds with a single 6950 and no intention of crossfire have a 650W psu. Here is the power consumption benchmark as well. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6950-unlock-build-a-pc-overclock,2893-13.html It doesn't even go above 400w on an OC system but you leave extra power for overhead and capacitor aging. You can even check with this power supply calculator http://www.antec.outervision.com/PSUEngine
  17. Thanks alot! Do you know how I would go about unlocking it to the 6970? I heard it increases performance up to 9%-14%.
  18. That you. Does this increase the power/heat?
  19. Oh and whats the best 1080p monitor you can find?
    this was the best I found for the cheapest http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236067&cm_re=1080p_monitor_hdmi-_-24-236-067-_-Product
  20. Yes, theres even a chart in that article. On newegg, that is a good choice for a monitor.
  21. Do you know of a case that has a side-panel window and will still get good airflow, I like the cool master haf but I want a window so i can put green cold cathon lights in it
  22. And if I were to unlock the card to a 6970 would I need a better fan than the one you listed? Sorry about all the questions haha
  23. No you don't need a better fan. I don't know too many cases with windows so somebody else might offer better ones. Its unnecessary bling to me, the extra money could go towards an SSD. Case is also more of a personal preference as it deals with looks, so if you find one you like you can post it here.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112238
  24. What is an ssd exactly and how will it boost my performance?
  25. solid state drive, reads and writes MUCH FASTER than a mechanical drive. will increase boot up time if os is installed on it and will startup programs that are installed on it faster too.
  26. I will build it, give you a full system warranty, 2 years tech support, oc the video card, oc the processor, Quality Test it and ship it to you for $1250.


    it being your "best answer" build
  27. Its used like a hdd, you'd buy ~60gb version and install your OS on it and maybe a game or 2. Having the OS on it makes the OS feel more responsive as the flash memory has much faster seek times than a mechanical hdd. SSDs also have a much higher read/write speed which will help with load times. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148357
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550


    Bdbeall, if you're trying to build PCs for a business, the least you could do is communicate professionally to perspective customers.
  28. ok i think im going to stick with the first case and might upgrade to an ssd...got any suggestions?
  29. keep the hdd for data storage and get this ssd

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550

    its great, i have one in a few of my builds
  30. I did post links to suggestions.
  31. ok thanks guys, but I dont think I would need a 1tb HDD I think a 60gb ssd and a 500gb Hdd. I dont even know what i would put on a 1tb hdd its just too much! And how would I switch using hard drives. I mea how would i use one for games and use the other for storage(music,pictures,movies) etc.
  32. once you are in Windows, the 60 GB drive will be you "C:" Drive which is where your prgrams and games will default installing to, and you can put shortcuts in your my music, my documents, my videos etc folders on you C drive to point to folders on your second drive which will come up in your My Computer page as either D: E: or F: drive depending on how many disc drives you have. this way your computer knows where everything is, but it is stored on appropriate drives.
  33. Hey with the cool master storm scout people are saying that the hd 6950 is too big to fit in there.
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