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HD5570 and 250w power supply?

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February 8, 2011 11:52:16 PM

Hello,
I really want to upgrade from intergraded chipsets to a real graphic card.
At first I was interested into getting a XFX 5670, but then I realized that my power supply would become a problem.
A friend of mines recommended me to get a 5570 instead since they don't need that much power.

I have a stock Compaq PC, specifications are below.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01...

Please help!

Thanks in advanced, Marcos.
February 9, 2011 6:34:30 AM

correct me if im wrong yall, but dont the 5570 require 400 watts min, so in other words, you would def blow your power supply, and prob mb, knowin that hp powersupplys suck
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February 9, 2011 7:13:31 AM

First of all the manufacturer design the PC with only integrated graphic in mind. so that's why your pc only came up with 250w PSU. if the PSU have good quality and efficiency then 5570 should work with it though i don't really recommend you to do so.
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February 9, 2011 7:45:42 AM

Its doable with a 250w, but as renz said, I wouldn't recommend it. What are your needs? Do you want to game? Do you just want to stream HD video?
February 9, 2011 12:12:50 PM

cobra11 said:
correct me if im wrong yall, but dont the 5570 require 400 watts min, so in other words, you would def blow your power supply, and prob mb, knowin that hp powersupplys suck


HP computers do suck,
My dad gave me this computer and I just want to upgrade it a bit.

renz496 said:
First of all the manufacturer design the PC with only integrated graphic in mind. so that's why your pc only came up with 250w PSU. if the PSU have good quality and efficiency then 5570 should work with it though i don't really recommend you to do so.


I really hope it because I don't really want upgrade the PSU.
I was already planning to buy RAM and a new GPU.
I don't want to spend anymore because this PC is older, and I can use the money for a future build.

Helltech said:
Its doable with a 250w, but as renz said, I wouldn't recommend it. What are your needs? Do you want to game? Do you just want to stream HD video?


Well I do plan to play some games, but am not interested in playing the latest games around like Crysis. (Even though it's not new, but that game requires a lot of GPU and CPU power)

I want to play older games like Resident Evil 4, Minecraft, and Bioshock.
I also do a bit of Photoshop and video editing.
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February 9, 2011 2:18:31 PM

honestly i think your single core celeron will bottleneck the card. however you still can get better performance compared to IGP that came with your PC. my advice is: don't spend too much on that pc. if you in dire need for better performance it is better to get new platform ;) 
February 9, 2011 2:27:00 PM

renz496 said:
honestly i think your single core celeron will bottleneck the card. however you still can get better performance compared to IGP that came with your PC. my advice is: don't spend too much on that pc. if you in dire need for better performance it is better to get new platform ;) 


I know man, I thought about getting a $100 card,
But it would be worthless if I put it in this PC.

I really want to get a graphics card to hold me on for a while.
I got $100 from my bank and it's free money that I can spend.

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February 9, 2011 3:13:54 PM
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Any video card with that PC will be fine, the CPU is crap for games, or any heavy work. With a 250 watt power supply and considering the rest of the computer, you can do with a 4650, even that will well out-do your other components, and with a stock HP PSU, I would not go any higher that that card.

Usually I recommend getting a higher video card for a slower computer as you can then move it to your next system, but without a PSU upgrade you won't be able to runit without high risk of crashes.

If you upgrade the PSU, then you can get a better card, and the socket will take a fairly good CPU as well, just check your compatability list for the motherboard http://www.cpu-world.com/Sockets/Socket%20775%20(LGA775).html. For under $200 you can get that system running pretty well but your first upgrade should be the PSU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <--Make sure your case takes a regular ATX power supply and not some funky shaped one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Around $100 for both, a $100 CPU and RAM upgrade in the future, and you go a decent PC.
February 9, 2011 5:12:33 PM

hang-the-9 said:
Any video card with that PC will be fine, the CPU is crap for games, or any heavy work. With a 250 watt power supply and considering the rest of the computer, you can do with a 4650, even that will well out-do your other components, and with a stock HP PSU, I would not go any higher that that card.

Usually I recommend getting a higher video card for a slower computer as you can then move it to your next system, but without a PSU upgrade you won't be able to runit without high risk of crashes.

If you upgrade the PSU, then you can get a better card, and the socket will take a fairly good CPU as well, just check your compatability list for the motherboard http://www.cpu-world.com/Sockets/Socket%20775%20(LGA775).html. For under $200 you can get that system running pretty well but your first upgrade should be the PSU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <--Make sure your case takes a regular ATX power supply and not some funky shaped one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Around $100 for both, a $100 CPU and RAM upgrade in the future, and you go a decent PC.


Of course moving onto CPU territory, it really sucks.
I wanted that XFX 5670 at, but then I had to upgrade the PSU along with it.

IMO It will be worthless spending that much money on this PC.
I would prefer if I just get RAM and a graphics card upgrade for just this PC.
I currently have 1GB of RAM on this PC.
And this PC only supports 2GB.

I am sorry if I am being stubborn, but to me it's not a idea getting a XFX 5670 just bottleneck it on this PC.

What if I just get a RAM and a graphics card upgrade.
A graphics card that could wok with a 250w PSU?



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February 9, 2011 5:25:44 PM

Radeon 4650 should run with a 250 watt PSU. Just don't expect any decent perfomance paired with the rest of the system. Even a Geforce 210 or 220 will do fine for this system or a Radeon 4350.
February 9, 2011 5:55:26 PM

hang-the-9 said:
Radeon 4650 should run with a 250 watt PSU. Just don't expect any decent perfomance paired with the rest of the system. Even a Geforce 210 or 220 will do fine for this system or a Radeon 4350.


It will run?
Thank god because I really need a graphics card.

I really don't expect that much performance out it mate,
But it ill be something better than the crappy Intel chipset.

I saw this XFX 5570 on newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I liked this one because it has OpenGL 3.2 and its from XFX.

And there's other likes ASUS for less than XFX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And there is SAPPHIRE for much less, it could save me more money but It says that doesn't have OpenGL.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The reason am sticking with OpenGL is because a game that I really want to play is Minecraft.
Minecraft requires OpenGL?

And for the RAM,
I found this.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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February 9, 2011 6:19:46 PM

5570 may be better than a 4650, it looks to have a lower power consumption. Can't check your links due to work ad block, but any 5570 will have Open GL support.
February 9, 2011 6:51:32 PM

The good thing about 5570 is that it's a directx11 and it's a DDR3.
Although am not so sure about 4650 though
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February 10, 2011 12:34:18 AM

MarcosFabian said:
The good thing about 5570 is that it's a directx11 and it's a DDR3.
Although am not so sure about 4650 though


honestly even 5670 is not strong enough to handle DX11. 4650 is DX10.1 compatible card. available in DDR2 and GDDR3 but most people will avoid the one with DDR2
February 10, 2011 1:05:30 AM

I really think I I should go for a XFX 5670 and a Crusial RAM upgrade.
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February 10, 2011 1:32:40 PM

MarcosFabian said:
I really think I I should go for a XFX 5670 and a Crusial RAM upgrade.


You can really get anything that will fit in the case, just plug it in, if it crashes, you need to get a new power supply. Any card over 30-40 watts is cutting it close with your system.
February 10, 2011 3:09:21 PM

hang-the-9 said:
You can really get anything that will fit in the case, just plug it in, if it crashes, you need to get a new power supply. Any card over 30-40 watts is cutting it close with your system.


I meant to say the 5570.
I think it should fit, since the card doesn't look to be that big.

Although, looks can be deceiving.
February 10, 2011 4:11:14 PM

UniqueName said:
A DDR3 5570 is the best choice. GDDR5 uses more power as does a 5670.
Radeon HD 5550 And 5570: Pumped Up With GDDR5


5570 looks to be a good card from the reviews I read online.
The 5670 is in my budget, but then I would have to get a new PSU so that will leave me without a RAM upgrade.

Thanks for everything guys,
You guys really helped out.
February 16, 2011 11:08:59 PM

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February 17, 2011 4:54:22 AM

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