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Alright I am looking for any and all tips. By no means does this have to be $4000, It can be under $3000 as well I was just looking in the $3000-$4000 mark.
So my Build

Case- Thermaltake Level 10 GT
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133188

Motherboard- ASUS Maximus IV Extreme
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131700

CPU- Intel I7 2600K
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

RAM- OCZ Platinum 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227613

Power Supply- Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 1050W
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153144

Hard Drives-
W.D. 600GB VelociRaptor
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136555
2x W.D. 1TB 7200RPM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136313

And Now what i'm not sure on.
2x XFX Radeon 6970
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150531
2x EVGA GeForce GTX 580
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587

Any opinions would be awesome.

I am also new to Liquid Cooling and would like some detailed info on what i will need, what i should get.
I liked the way the Liquid Cooling system for this Cyberpower was set up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfPc_j0u6Dw

Thank you very much
 
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What will you be doing with this PC? I assume it is for gaming.

What will you use for monitors? And what will be the resolution that you will use?

If you will be gaming at 1080P then your build is way overkill.

If you will be using a 2560 x 1600 monitor, or triple monitor surround gaming, then maybe.

It looks like you are trying to build a top end "future proof" system.

Here are a few suggestions:

1) Cut your budget in half, and invest the rest. IN a year's time, a top end system will only be so so. Use the saved funds to upgrade in a year's time.

2) Interesting case, but a bit expensive. If you love it, buy it. You will be looking at the case for a long time. Still, there are equally good cooling cases out there...
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If you're spending that much atleast get an SSD. The harddrives are going to bottleneck for your OS. If you really feel like dropping the cash on videocards, get 2 590s or 3 580s.
I'd go with G.skill for ram, i've never been a fan of OCZ products.
 
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Agreed on the SSD. Throw out the VelociRaptor and get an Crucial C300 128GB SSD or an OCZ Vertex 3 if you have the money.

And on what res are you gaming? 2xHD6950 2GB/2xGTX570 should be plenty even for games @ 2560x1600 at max detail. Don't waste your money on an SLI GTX580 setup.
 
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I recently purchased basically the same kit - 2xGTX580, 2600K, etc.

I went with:
Corsair 1200W professional series PSU.
G.Skill Turbulence 2133 RAM (4x4, let's hope she posts at advertised speeds)
GIGABYTE P67-UD7-B3 mobo
and...
to really mark a difference between your choice,
2xOCZ Vertex 3 120GB SSD drives for Raid 0

As others have said, running platters in that price point is going to bottleneck your OS.
 
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is the newegg description for the maximus iv correct??
4 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (single @x16, dual @x8, triple @x8, x16, x16 )

DUAL@x8 for a $365 board? thats PATHETIC. gotta be a typo right? if youre gonna be silly and spend 4 grand on a computer, dont half ass it. go for the dual 590's.

edit: oh yeah, definitely a typo if it can run x8,x16,x16
 
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What will you be doing with this PC? I assume it is for gaming.

What will you use for monitors? And what will be the resolution that you will use?

If you will be gaming at 1080P then your build is way overkill.

If you will be using a 2560 x 1600 monitor, or triple monitor surround gaming, then maybe.

It looks like you are trying to build a top end "future proof" system.

Here are a few suggestions:

1) Cut your budget in half, and invest the rest. IN a year's time, a top end system will only be so so. Use the saved funds to upgrade in a year's time.

2) Interesting case, but a bit expensive. If you love it, buy it. You will be looking at the case for a long time. Still, there are equally good cooling cases out there.
Also look into the lian li cases such as the X900. It also comes in black and silver. You won't save any money, but you will get outstanding quality.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112273

3) There is no need to buy an expensive P67 motherboard. You can get an equally capable one for about half the price.

4) DDR3 2000 ram is totally unnecessary, suitable only for record seeking overclockers. A basic 8gb kit of DDR3-1600 will be just as good. You will not be able to tell the difference in application performance, or fps. Think <1%.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428

5) Psu is OK, but there are some better units for less. The PC P&C silencer 950 actually has more amps on the 12v rails, and costs less:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703028

6) For the OS and apps, get a good SSD. The Intel 510 120gb unit has outstanding sequential speeds for fast level loads:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167042 SSD prices will drop in the next year, so I would not get the 250gb unit, right now.

7) For storage, get the initial capacity you need. Samsung 1tb drives are good:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152238
When you fill it up, then get another one.

Do not be seduced by raid-0 synthetic benchmarks. Your use for this drive should be for storage and backup. Performance is handled by the SSD.

8) Your graphics configuration is, by far, the most important component of a gaming pc. My suggestion would be to get a single high end card, at least initially, and see how you do. For a single monitor, the GTX580 would be good, and would be stronger than a 6970. Your upgrade path would be to get a second one.
If you want more up front, then look at a single dual gpu card. The GTX 590 or the 6990.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130630
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150529
You may have to shop for one, since they seem to be out of stock.
When you go with a single top end card, you preserve your option to upgrade to a second card later. Also, when the next best thing shows up in a year or so, you can market a top end card easier.

9) Cooling. If you have a decent cooling case, there is no need for liquid cooling. The best air coolers will cool as well as most liquid cooling kits, and will afford overclocks to reasonably high levels. Any OC past 4.0-4.5 will not help your gaming much, if at all. Look at the prolimatech megahelems:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001
or the Noctua NH-D14:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018

-----------good luck----------------
 
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Skip the water cooling. Not only is it a pain in the arse, there is absolutely no need for it when it comes to these Sandy Bridge cpu's. Also that Thermaltake case didn't get the best of reviews, and Thermaltake psu's aren't known for their quality these days.

Any orders over $75 CAD @ Direct Canada are Free Shipping.

This build down below includes Windows 7, an after market cpu h/s that's on Frosty Techs top 10 list, dual factory over clocked gtx 580's, an excellent mobo that runs dual vid cards @ 16x & 16x, a modular Enermax psu, 8GB of 1866hz low voltage RAM, and a 240GB Intel 510 SSD. No need for RAID 0.

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11130AC0874&vpn=RC-932-KKN5-GP&manufacture=COOLERMASTER $159.85
Cooler Master Haf 932 Advanced Full Tower EATX Case 7X5.25 2X3.5 5X3.5INT USB3.0 eSATA 1394 Black

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194081 $275.99
ENERMAX REVOLUTION85+ ERV1020EWT 1020W (Peak 1120W) ATX12V / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.632438 Combo Discount: -$25.00 Combo Price: $424.98
GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD7-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070 $309.99 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=15210AC0883&vpn=CNPS9900MAX-R&manufacture=ZALMAN%20TECH $60.85
Zalman CNPS9900MAX-R Nickel Plated Copper Headsink Red LED 135mm LGA1156 1155 1366 775 AM3 AM2

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12200DR9444&vpn=SSDSC2MH250A2K5&manufacture=INTEL $587.43
Intel 510 Series 240GB Solid State Drive SSD 2.5IN SATA 6GB/S Elm Crest

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=25350DR0783&vpn=WD1002FAEX&manufacture=Western%20Digital%20WD $78.69
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD4018&vpn=GV-N580UD-15I&manufacture=GIGABYTE $498.44
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 580 Fermi Windforce 795MHZ 1536MB 4.0GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E Video Card

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD4018&vpn=GV-N580UD-15I&manufacture=GIGABYTE $498.44
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 580 Fermi Windforce 795MHZ 1536MB 4.0GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E Video Card

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530DR5213&vpn=DRW-24B1ST%20Bulk&manufacture=ASUS $21.32
ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=12850SW2113&vpn=GFC-00599&manufacture=MICROSOFT $99.69
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM

Total: $3,015.67 CAD *not including shipping, taxes, etc...

*To have a build such as this and not have a 120hz monitor would be a crime imo. Down below is the #1 gaming monitor atm.

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10690MN9432&vpn=XL2410T&manufacture=BENQ $356.25
BenQ XL2410T 23.6IN Widescreen 120HZ LCD Monitor LED 1920X1080 2MS DVI HDMI HAS Pivot 3D Ready

http://www.benq.us/products/product_detail.cfm?product=1775&pltag=49&ptag=104 <----- more info, specs, and pics of that monitor

http://apcmag.com/first-look-the-benq-xl2410t-.htm <----- review of that monitor

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=3037 <--- more info, specs, and pics of that case
 
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Alright thanks a lot for all your opinions. I will be using my build For mostly Gaming and Video editing.
I think i'm close to what i am going to get, here is what i have been thinking now.

I will be Getting a pair of Dell Ultra Sharps, at the moment i will be using my LG 56" LED TV

CASE- I was looking at the Cooler Master HAF 932 Before i found the Thermaltake Level 10 GT i just kinda liked the build of it so it is between those two.

MOBO- I think i'm going to go with the Rampage III X58
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131666

CPU- I7-2600K

RAM- G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2x4)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428

PSU- Enermax Revoution85+ 1020W
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194081

Hard Drives-
OCZ Agility 2 180GB SSD - Still not sure about a SSD
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227605

W.D. Caviar Black 1TB 7200RPM Will add more when I am starting to run out of space.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

GPU- Single GTX 580 Will Most likely Upgrade and buy a second in the near future
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130590

Heatsink- Noctua NH-C14
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608020

Thanks a lot My price so far has dropped significantly

Anything you would change on this setup?
 
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You still need a P67 mobo for the 2600k. I'd suggest the Asus P8P67 Pro, Asus Sabertooth P67 (for the looks), or the ASRock P67 Extreme4. Any of these boards will support dual SLI/CF and have all the goodies you need without spending $300+...
 
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Good catch . Originally, the op was looking at the P67 variant of the asus rampage board. The X58 version will NOT run sandy bridge.

I agree, it is not a smart board to buy. It is intended for record seeking overclockers, or triple sli graphics which is way overkill.

There are plenty of other 1155 P67 motherboards that will serve equally well at half the price.
 
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Not really sure how i didn't catch the X58 board thank you for pointing that out.
I think i have found my final build.

Case - Thermaltake Level 10 GT
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133188

MOBO - ASUS Sabertooth P67
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131702

CPU- I7-2600K
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

RAM - G.SKIL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2x4)
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428

PSU - PC P&C silencer950
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703028

Hard Drives -
Intel 510 Series 120GB SSD
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167042

W.D. Caviar Black 1TB 7200RPM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284

GPU- Single GTX 580
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130590

Heatsink- Noctua NH-D14
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018

Thanks a lot everyone helped a lot! Huge difference.
 
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I'd get a Corsair TX750 PSU. Everything else looks good.
 
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