What is comparable to Nvidia 8800+ in new models

[smithk3933]

I would like to participate in the IRACING simulation and need to determine what I need in terms of a video card. My current system is:

- Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q6600 @ 2.4GHZ
- Intel G33 Express chipset
- 6gb DDR2 667/800mhz SDRAM
- 300W Power Supply

I have the built-in Intel graphics which I know is inadequate.

According to the IRACING website, they recommend 256 MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800+ or ATI Radeon 2900 Pro +)


I think the 8800 is an older Nvidia model that has been replaced with newer models. Can someone help with what a good current Nvidia model might be that would be comparable or better performance wise. I don't want huge overkill but do want a positive experience. I would prefer to not have to update the power supply but will if that's required. Not sure if the GeForce 430/440/450 would be acceptable. They seem to be low cost/low power consumption.

I would obviously like smooth graphics and initial plans call for a single monitor only.

 

[Rustyy117]

There's a few variants of the 8800 series, such as 8800GT, 8800GTS, 8800GTX, 8800GTX Ultra.. A HD5750 would be a good choice.

You'll need to upgrade your PSU though... You won't get a half decent graphics card to run on a 300W PSU

Quality is always very important when buying a PSU, it powers your PC so obviously you want to buy a reliable, high quality unit.

Here's a PSU that would be plenty for a HD5750 and the rest of your systems

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-037-OC&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1098

 

[smithk3933]

Yes all they reference is 8800+. In a prior post they actually listed recommended of 256 MB Pixel Shader 3.0 (ATI X1600 or nVidia 6800 GT/GS or better.

just not familiar with the vast number of graphic adapter ranges. Where would the HD5750 fall in relation to the ATI X1600 or ATI 2900 PRO?

Thanks.

Also when the card says recommended PSU 400W, does that mean just to drive the card or are they saying in total for system?

 

[Rustyy117]

A HD5750 is leaps and bounds faster than a X1600 or 6800GT and is slightly faster than a 8800GTX Ultra.

When they list the recommended PSU requirements they mean for a basic system + the card in question.

 

[smithk3933]

So the 5750/5770 gets high marks in reviews. It does mention Double Profile. Does that refer to the width or length?

Here is a photo of the motherboard. Can someone tell me if I have room for a double profile card?
http://www1.snapfish.com/comcast/sl...16/PictureID=184698164016/a=8736096_8736096/]

 

[Rustyy117]

Double profile means it takes up 2 slots on your case, so you'd install it in the black PCI-E lane and it would block access to the smaller black lane (which I think is PCI-E x1 or x4)


To use your Pic as an example of how much space a double width/slot/profile card would take up.

 

[nforce4max]

5750 on the bottom for ati while a gts 450 on the nvidia side. Below that you are looking at a poor price performance ratio.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

i have an 8800gts which is equivelant to 9600gt which is equivelant to gt240 (gddr5 version).

 

[nforce4max]

Personally I would take that G80 over the GT240 as they usually float for about $40 and are easy to fix when they fail. Once had a 9600gt and find it amazing how newer cards can barely compete with it much less a 8800/9800gt much like my 3870 ware cards like the 4670 and the 5550 only match it with lower fill rates.

 

[UniqueName]

Is that a low profile case? It definitely looks like a microATX motherboard. An HD5570 and GT430 would be approximately equal to the spec cards. ATI provides better performance per watt currently which is your main limitation. However, if you really want nVidia, the GT430 is the safest option. GT440 and GT240 provide better performance but are borderline for a 300W PSU.

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[UniqueName]

^
you can do much better then the GT430...

At 300W? Anyway it's still unclear to me if that case is low profile. Do you think it is a full width case? Case and budget like you said are the questions.

 

[nforce4max]

The GT430 idles at around 10w and loads some ware around 50w. They are good if they can be had for $60-70usd. Their low idle wattage is what makes them great for general use and systems that have lower wattage units.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

a gt430 is completely useless for gaming, anyone who buys that card has a screw loose in their head. I would put it up for Worst Nvidia Card Ever! better of with a 5570. if you get the ddr5 version of the 5570 it performs similarly to a gt240 and can be overclocked to match a 5670, as its the same card, just underclocked a bit.

 

[UniqueName]

a gt430 is completely useless for gaming, anyone who buys that card has a screw loose in their head. I would put it up for Worst Nvidia Card Ever! better of with a 5570. if you get the ddr5 version of the 5570 it performs similarly to a gt240 and can be overclocked to match a 5670, as its the same card, just underclocked a bit.

I didn't say a GT430 was better. I said ATI is better. But the original poster wanted nVidia only so maybe you should waste your time attempting to convince them instead?

 

[jjb8675309]

^+1 - iam2thecrowe
agreed to that (and I'm a nVidia fan..)

yeah -1 to the gt430 and malmental I like your new photo.... your a boss!!

 

[jjb8675309]

thanks going well, currently working on pushing my 955 to the max...

do you think a 5670 would fly for the op? I think it draws a whopping 65 w at full load...

 

[UniqueName]

saying that ATi is better is like 'false advertising' becuase overall, it's not better; just more options (pricing ratio performance) to reach the consumer..

I'll quote myself this time instead of assuming you know what you are talking about.

"ATI provides better performance per watt currently which is your main limitation."

So what would you like nVidia to provide? A card for every wattage from 49 to 75? It's fine if you think GT240 or GT440 would be better. I even said so myself.

"GT440 and GT240 provide better performance but are borderline for a 300W PSU."

I know perfectly well you can get a Palit GT240 for $35 currently on newegg. It's fine if you don't think they are borderline for a 300W PSU. If you want to suggest a GTS450, whatever. If you want to convince the original poster to switch to AMD, that is fine. If you think the original poster should purchase a new PSU and spiffy card, fine. You could even convince them they need a brand new system price is no object but I'll quote you this time.

"OK, I got the specs you need but what hasn't been asked or from what I see answered is how much you spending.?
what's your budget.?"

If you want to convince me to purchase a graphics card, you are wasting your time. It's the original poster you should be helping.

 

[nforce4max]

That one like most uses a simple die cast aluminum block with a low quality fan. Read one of the user reviews saying the noise was noticeable over a gtx 280 and case fans installed. So keep that in mind but for power it is a good choice considering the psu installed. Cough zalman vf900 for silent computing.

 

[UniqueName]

malmental: I was not implying you recommended a GTS450. As far as I can tell you haven't recommended anything yet. You have said, you can do better than GT430, prefer GT240 to GT430 and prefer HD5570 to HD5670 but those are pretty weak recommendations if they are even that and do not address the original poster directly. You are the one who took my "ATI is better" comment out of context.

 

[jjb8675309]

well who cares the gt 430 should not be used for gaming, and the 5670 may be pushing the limits of the OP's psu... so overall I would agree that the gt240 or 5570 is probably the best choice, personally I'd get the gt240

 

[jjb8675309]

A Few Recommendations:

1) Not a huge fan of palit but here is a good deal AR:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261060&cm_re=gt240-_-14-261-060-_-Product

2) Here is something else for the OP to consider if you wants to save a little money potentially:

http://cgi.ebay.com/EVGA-GeForce-GT240-512MB-DDR5-graphics-card-/330528820084?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item4cf50d8b74

3) One last pick although I'd say the gt 240 is best:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102875&cm_re=5570-_-14-102-875-_-Product

 

[loneninja]

8800 saw several refreshes, and depending on model vary in performance, but a 5670 is a low power option that will offer similar performance. A 4670/5570 will have similar performance to the original 8800 320mb variation too, while the top performing models exceed the 5670 in performance.

A 5750/5770 or GTS 450 would offer better performance.

 

[UniqueName]

I do not prefer the HD5570 over the HD5670.....
and if had under a 300-watt power supply then I'd recommend the HD5570 over the HD5670 but this is not the case.
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Assumptions again lol. Yes any recommendation is under the context of an unknown 300W system. Curiously if it is an Inspiron 530 shouldn't it have a 350W power supply?