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April 15, 2011 10:46:51 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next 3 months, so any soon to be released products are welcome

Budget Range: Somewhere around or under $1000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (eg: Minecraft, Portal/Half Life, Maybe some newer games like Call of Duty. Internet, movies, downloading large files, School work AND I plan on going to college for a degree in information technology and I want a capable workstation for programming and possible rudimentary 3d rendering. However this is not my greatest priority and price should be considered first

Parts Not Required: Mouse, Keyboard, Monitor(?) speakers,

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: NewEgg, Amazon

Country of Origin: U.S.A.

Parts Preferences: Intel i7 SandyBeach, Nvidia Graphics, SLI(?)

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: SLI Cost prohibitive

Monitor Resolution: I have a 1080P HDTV with HDMI, but I don't know if that's just a terrible idea

Additional Comments: Windows 7, Need advice on 64bit, I don't think I need to bother with SSD, Size and sound isnt an issue, and niether are looks.


I have a newegg Wishlist set up with some items I picked out and put a little bit of research into, but I'm not sure if their are some incompatibilities or poor choices in there.

CPUIntel i7 Sandy bridge
Motheroard Biostar TH67
Graphics Nvidia Geforce GTX460
Memory G.Skill Ripjaw8gigs DDR3
Harddrive WD 500GB Sata 6.0gb/s
PSU Rosewill 1000W continuous
case Umm this case

Thank you for your help
April 15, 2011 10:54:12 PM

scrap that biostar th67 its a real turd. Check out this board http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168.... It has good memory controll and oc capabilities. Aslo I would go with a good psu, like a corsair or ultra. I have had a couple of rosewills go out on me and I find that corsair is the most stable for ocing and dual video cards
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April 15, 2011 10:55:25 PM

Siggy 1000$ build. You don't need an i7 2600K for gaming, gaming doesn't even need HT so save that 100$ and get an i5 2500K for cheaper and that molney can be put into the GPU.

Check out my build in my siggy.
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April 15, 2011 11:00:06 PM

I read that the H67 doent support OCing but I wasnt sure if OCing was really that beneficial. Also whats the difference between the EXTREME4 and PRO3 models for ASROCK?
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April 15, 2011 11:03:58 PM

Oh and I'm inclined to invest in the i7 since I already have a gift certificate for a free one
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April 15, 2011 11:06:13 PM

H67 Doesn't support OCing however, it does support quick sync. That'd be beneficial in video editing however you want to game so H67 is a bad choice.

The Extreme4 has 2 extra PCI Express 16x 2.0 vs the Pro3. But also it has better OCing ability and just better overall board for upgradability.
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April 15, 2011 11:19:41 PM

I i like that antec, but I'm just not sure how wattage is distributed. Will 650 watts be enough for everything, since they have other models that go up to 1100
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April 16, 2011 12:18:54 AM

A 650w like the Antec is good enough. Unless you plan to SLI, in which case i recommend 800+
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April 16, 2011 12:26:15 AM

How good of an idea is it to SLI? It would double the cost of the card (obviously) but does it deliver enough extra bang for my buck? And If I dont want to upgrade to SLI now will buying a better PSU in the future end up being more convenient?
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April 16, 2011 1:20:07 AM

Graphics card:

The GTX 4xx cards run far too hot. Google that. You should get the GTX 5xx series. You should spend somewhere between $150 to $250 depending on your budget.

The graphics card in all modern systems is the bottleneck. If you spend $500 on your CPU and graphics you'll get about 2x the gaming performance with a $300 graphics card + $200 CPU then you will with a $300 CPU and $200 graphics card.

When on a budget, you should not spend more than $200 on a CPU and put any extra money towards the graphics. Even for RAM. The small difference in price between 4GB and 8GB when applied to buy a slightly better graphics card will mean better gaming performance.

There's an optimal balance on a budget for the core processing elements (RAM, CPU and Graphics); a balanced, budget sysem goes something like this:
- 4GB DDR3 1600MHz
- $250 Graphics card
- $150-$200 CPU
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April 16, 2011 1:27:19 AM

The 560 Ti is the coolest running card out of all cards available currently. The scaling is also one of the best which is why I recommend it. Buying a high powered psu now would save you the hassle.

My build guide would give you all the info you need.
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April 16, 2011 1:27:42 AM

about SLI:

There three main reasons to do SLI:
1) a single card isn't fast enough
2) a dual-gpu card runs too hot (split the cooling to two cards)
3) Price/performance ratio is better with two cards

However, SLI introduces it's own problems. Games with poor SLI performance would run better on a faster, single card. You also require a CPU and motherboard SLI bandwidth both capable of keeping up with the graphics cards. A better CPU can add at least $100 than what you need for a single GPU card. Add an additional $100 for a better PSU and it starts to get expensive for processing power that many games don't even need since they're maxed out.

Unless you have $800 or more to spend on graphics alone I wouldn't bother. Actually, for as little as $400 a 2xGTX 560Ti might be a great deal, but remember you'll need at least $200 more for a better CPU and PSU.

Summary:
A high-end single-GPU card is usually more than adequate for most people. The cost, heat/noise and compatibility issues are good reasons to avoid SLI. $250 can get a very good graphics card which can run most games at the highest settings with AA.
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April 16, 2011 5:11:18 PM

MSI has a better cooler and in my opinion the better card, EVGA is always an option, I hear they have good support.
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April 16, 2011 6:19:58 PM

I've created a revised list:
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and my total is $987 on NewEgg, how reasonable is that price for what I'm getting?
Also I changed my i7 from a 2600 to a 2600k because as I understand it, that means it is capable of OCing or OCing better, right?
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April 16, 2011 6:34:05 PM

I read about that Samsung Spinpoint HDD you like so much on your guide, but it is only 3.0GB/s and the other is 6.0GB/s. I read that most systems won't really achieve 6.0GB/s right now. What is the bottleneck for writing to the HDD? Also as I've made due with less then 100 GB of memory for the past 10 years combined, im not sure If i can use a whole TB, do you think software and games have been growing and taking up more space, and eventually I'll end up filling more than 500 GB?
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April 16, 2011 6:56:59 PM

Yes probably.

I think getting the 1TB drive is better specially since its only a few bucks more. The bottleneck is the fact that is it is a mechanical HDD. Might as well get more space now.
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April 17, 2011 5:44:52 PM

Best answer selected by devon64327.
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