My biggest concern here is the PCIe lane issue for future upgrades, at some future point this would be upgraded to a single 69xx PCIe x16 class 2GB or 4GB GPU, internal PCIe x4 SSD and PCIe x1 sound card.
I will want to upgrade to this configuration at some point this summer or fall. I'm not too interested in getting a prebuilt that cannot be upgraded as stated.
The motherboard in the cyberpower build is;
GIGABYTE GA-870A-UD3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The PCIe lane issues confuse me greatly. Will this motherboard eventually support these 3 PCIe devices?
Are there lane restrictions that are going to decrease performance somehow if its *Spread out over these slots?*
I don't really understand it all.
This machine would fit my needs for a while, as well as PnP out of the box (I hope).
Don't know just how upgradable this is.
After poking around dreaming of building my own system I came across a (partial) build (barley) within my $1000 budget that would suit my needs better (I think). It would take me longer to get it together, I.E. orders placed over several weeks to get it going compared to PnP from the cyberpower build.
I could probably build this myself, but am going to leave it to the trusty pros at my local shop should I go this route.
This route is not complete, as there is no case or OS included in the $1000 budget. The case, OS, optical drive, extra fans and possibly another HDD would be forthcoming 3-4 weeks after the inital order. The inital order would be bench
tested at my local shop.
COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Again, here the PCIe lane issues persists. Any help here would be greatly appreated
Probably much better for my needs.Much better video card and I will probably lose interest in a higher end video card (6990) this route, as I believe the 6950 would be more than adequate.
Over my budget by several hundred dollars by the time i add case, OS, Optical drive etc, as well as the local shop's fee to build it. Would have to be ordered in 2 parts.
Sometime over the next 6 months this build would be upgraded as follows;
((Possible GPU upgrade, $724.99)) (This is possible only, I don't know if I really want or need this. But I would like the system to be able to support it should it happen in the future.)
MSI R6990-4PD4GD5 Radeon HD 6990 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
There it is in a nutshell, I hope I didn't leave anything out. It has been a long time since i have tried anything like this.
Any help, recommendations or criticism would be more than helpful, I have about a month to decide on which route i should go.
1 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x16 (PCIEX16) 1 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x4 (PCIEX4) Note: The PCIEX1_1 and PCIEX1_2 slots share bandwidth with the PCIEX4 slot. When PCIEX4 slot is populated with a x4 card, the PCIEX1_1 and PCIEX1_2 slots become unavailable
This means that the first light blue PCIe 2.0 x16 slot will run at full x16 bandwidth. The other light blue one will only run at x4.
The two smallest slots, the PCIe x1 slots, which are on either side of the first PCIe x16 slot (top light blue one), use the same bandwidth that the lowest light blue slot uses. So when you put some expansion card into the lowest light blue slot, you cannot use those two small slots on either side of the top light blue slot.
Also, the 6850 has 1 GB of VRAM and is a bit slower than the 5850, which itself is just a hair slower than the Radeon 4850x2. It will perform like *** on three 1080p monitors (a resolution of 5760 x 1080) at any decently high settings.
The GPU will be ordered at a later date a few weeks after. most likely this one, but possibly even a GTX 580, I'll see what the $$$ situation is at a later date.
The only thing im still not too clear on is the PCIe lanes, will this board support the GPU and an internal PCIe 4x SSD?
From what i can tell it will as long as the 2nd slot is populated with a 4x or lower. (the SSD is 4x)
And last, will it support a pci sound card? (regular PCI card) as it seems the x1 slots would not be available with both x16s populated.
Optical drive will be coming out of the old desktop.
The MOBO pictures and details show a vga/dvi/hdmi on board, but on the Gigabyte site it says there is no video support?
It would be nice to at least get it booted up with onboard video. if not i have a SAPPHIRE 100254HDMI Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... that should go in this for a few weeks.
If you buy an H67 motherboard, you will be able to use the processor's on-die graphics, but you will never be able to do any overclocking of the processor. So I would stick with a P67 board since you plan to buy a 570 and have a 4650 as a spare.
The GTX 570 you linked is from EVGA, but it doesn't seem to have the same $50 mail-in rebate as the one I linked. That deal is good until 4/29, so you should have plenty of time to take advantage of it.
There it is. I think I'm set on this setup. GPU later, and keep the little sapphire in the old desktop.
Do i really NEED to OC this? (as listed i cant OC CPU). Im not too savy on OC and dont think i will need to.
On the k-series processors, all you have to do to overclock is change the multiplier. It's really easy and you won't have to worry about other system busses, just the processor will be overclocked. Also, the Sandy Bridge chips are only 95 Watts and generally run very cool. A Cooler Master Hyper 212+ should be sufficient to get to 4.4 GHz or so. If nothing else, it can't hurt to just have the option for the future. But i don't know. The chips are pretty fast at stock.