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March 27, 2012 3:44:55 PM

Greetings, :) 

I bought a high-end PC about 3 years ago but I feel that at the moment its 2GB RAM and the fact that it runs Windows 7 32bit holds me back.

I would like to upgrade to 8GB so I wont have any issues in the future as well as try out Windows 7 64bit. It's the first time I attempt to upgrade my system so please bear with me.

Problem is that I currently use (2x1GB) OCZ dual channel that are discontinued, which in fact is really dissapointing since Im really pleased with OCZ's platinum non-low voltage series ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-227-... )

In addition, I use a decent Core 2 Duo CPU ( http://ark.intel.com/products/33911/Intel-Core2-Duo-Pro... ) and a Nvidia Geforce GTX 285 GPU.

Lastly, my motherboard is ASUS P5Q3 ( not the Deluxe version, however I dont think they differ a lot ) with an Intel® P45 chipset. ( http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_775/P5Q3/... ). I would like to mention that reading through the QVL list found at the website most models are discontinued here in local stores ( I live in Athens ) and that the Corsair 8GB (4x2GB) dual-channel kits that are highly-reccomended by Corsair for my motherboard seem to be problematic on some boards after I looked them up on the web. ( http://www.corsair.com/cmx8gx3m4b1333c9.html/ or http://www.corsair.com/dominator-with-dhx-pro-connector... ).

Looking forward to your suggestions,

Xionas
a c 146 } Memory
March 27, 2012 4:59:33 PM

Hi there,

Are u a student?
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March 27, 2012 6:39:57 PM

I found ( http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=223 ) but its only 4GB. Its CAS latency is 7 like my old OCZ memory (which is a good thing)

If im not mistaken CAS latency is calculated by looking at the first number in the sequence (e.g 7-7-7-21 is CAS latency 7, 5-7-6-18 is CAS latency 5 etc ) ?


Will that do the work ?


nikorr said:
Hi there,

Are u a student?


Yes

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a c 146 } Memory
March 28, 2012 2:18:11 PM

Hi, are u going to mix the 1.5v RAM with 1.8v RAM? Not a good idea.
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March 28, 2012 2:46:36 PM

The old OCZ 2GB kit will be taken out.

What about ~3GB x32bit vs 4GB x64bit (for web applications/gaming use) ?
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a c 146 } Memory
March 28, 2012 2:55:25 PM

That would not make much sense.

Get 8GB RAM and x64bit if u don't wont choke the system.

RAM is not to make your PC faster, it is there to make your frozen moments go away, run smooth when u do a few things at the same time.

And if u will get SSD, than u are in great shape, without spending a lot of money.
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March 28, 2012 3:11:54 PM

Cheers,

My MoBo states though that "DDR3 1600MHz or above DIMMs work only on the Orange slots for one DIMM per channel"

Dunno what that actually means. Will I have any issue with the 1600Mhz kit you suggested?
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March 28, 2012 3:19:01 PM

It will work fine, in the Orange slots. Only in those 2 slots.

No other RAM in the other slots at the same time.
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March 28, 2012 5:59:55 PM

I found this at Corsair forums:

"Ram Guy:
The Intel X38, P35, P45 and X48 chipsets only support memory made with 128 By 8 memory IC's so our Vengeance modules are not compatible with any of these older chipsets and they will only support 2.0 Gig modules made with 128 By 8 memory IC's according to the Intel White papers for the chipsets."

and

"With that MB you cannot run the memory faster than the CPU FSB and when you fill all four slots you may have to run the memory at DDr800 to keep the system stable but I would set the memory frequency to DDR1066 and set the timings manually to Cas 8-8-8-24 at 1.7 Volts and disable legacy USB and see if it will pass www.memtest.org."

My cpu: FSB Speed (according to Intel)
1333 MHz
FSB Parity
No

Are you sure the 1600Mhz kit you linked would work properly with my system?
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March 28, 2012 6:05:45 PM

4 x DIMM, Max. 16 GB, DDR3 1800(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066 Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory
Dual Channel memory architecture
*DDR3 1600MHz or above DIMMs work only on the Orange slots for one DIMM per channel.

Yes, it will run fine. That is why only orange slots will do. And max support is 4GB per slot.
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a c 146 } Memory
March 28, 2012 6:06:14 PM

Post the link of that thread.
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a c 146 } Memory
March 28, 2012 6:30:14 PM

There is no reason for the RAM to not work.

I think I advised at least 100+ people on RAM and not one complained that it didn't worked. Some had problem, but clearing CMOS took care of that.
Not one with incompatible RAM.

But u can get this one @ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Great for the older systems.
I have that RAM at home on some older PC for years. Works great.

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March 28, 2012 7:24:41 PM

nikorr said:
There is no reason for the RAM to not work.

I think I advised at least 100+ people on RAM and not one complained that it didn't worked. Some had problem, but clearing CMOS took care of that.
Not one with incompatible RAM.

But u can get this one @ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Great for the older systems.
I have that RAM at home on some older PC for years. Works great.
http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/20-145-315-TS?$S300W$


^--+1 nikorr always has excellent advice. Plus these Ram chips have a nice low-profile heatsink. I usually hate ram with massive heatsinks on them.
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March 28, 2012 7:33:28 PM

Chainzsaw said:
^--+1 nikorr always has excellent advice. Plus these Ram chips have a nice low-profile heatsink. I usually hate ram with massive heatsinks on them.

I am not big fan of them too,

they obstruct the airflow in the case and they are just for show : )
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March 29, 2012 5:50:50 PM

It will be just fine.

There is 100 of different ones out there and 20 people can give u 20 different opinions.

Make sure u take a kit of 8GB, not 2 x 4GB single sticks, as 1 stick is not optimized.

Its better that way.
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March 29, 2012 8:03:04 PM

These Kingston kits are the only 4GB dimms my ASUS MoBo has verified.

Whats the difference performance-wise between a dual channel 8GB kit and 2 x 4GB single sticks of the same model sold separately which can work together in dual-channel mode according to VQL and user feedback?

Furthermore, whats your opinion on MoBo's VQL generally? Is it random (does ASUS devote its time to test ALL available dimms) or made for marketing purposes and do you often ignore VQL when you make a new build?

Looking forward to your answer.
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March 29, 2012 8:10:22 PM

personally I would go with ECC memory, it's not just for servers, the memory is faster than standard memory of the same speed and it adds a level of stability to you system. Samsung makes good ECC memory, OCZ used to, and maybe in the future they will again. but for now take what you can get, the fact of the matter is that if there not making it, in ECC configuration yet, it is because that speed is not stable tech, yet, and you are asking for issues. but some people prefer speed over stability and that is a choose you'll have to make for yourself.
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March 29, 2012 8:28:21 PM

These Kingston kits are the only 4GB dimms my ASUS MoBo has verified.

Whats the difference performance-wise between a dual channel 8GB kit and 2 x 4GB single sticks of the same model sold separately which can work together in dual-channel mode according to VQL and user feedback?

No difference in performance.
Furthermore, whats your opinion on MoBo's VQL generally? Is it random (does ASUS devote its time to test ALL available dimms) or made for marketing purposes and do you often ignore VQL when you make a new build?

RAM makers have to pay for testing, that is why only few RAM kits made to the list.

Even the RAM on the list may not work. U never know, but most will work fine.
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a c 146 } Memory
March 29, 2012 8:30:57 PM

If u want to be sure if the RAM works with particular mobo, get on the website of the RAM maker and find it there in the RAM configurator.

http://www.corsair.com/learn_n_explore/
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April 3, 2012 6:51:05 PM

The Kingston one.
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April 3, 2012 7:15:55 PM

2079001,24,1163993 said:
After a lot of research,

http://www.crucial.com/store/mpartspecs.aspx?mtbpoid=97... or two http://www.kingston.com/us/memory/search/Default.aspx?P...

Which is better for gaming and more stable?

Thanks in advance.[/quotemsg

nether. http://buymemory.com/8gb-ddr3-1333mhz-pc3-10600-ECC-reg... if your looking for stable memory than ECC is what you're looking for and the speed as far as timings are the same personally I have found that it will run a little faster than memory of the same speed and this memory is unbuffered so o-clocking is a option as well
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April 3, 2012 7:23:28 PM

oh yea as satated get it in the 4 gig stick
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April 3, 2012 7:36:01 PM

wait a sec you may have to go with 2 gig strips as ECC memory has twice the memory on the stick as shown or read (put simply )by the motherboard. is this a hardware restriction of the motherboard to only allow 4 gig in those two slots?(nikorr)
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April 3, 2012 10:47:28 PM

ASUS just replied that http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... WILL be compatible with my ASUS P5Q3 AND any future z77 chipset motherboards they release should I wish to buy a new one.

Is it good for gaming etc. ? Shall I order it or it would be foolish not to go for Corsair Vengeance in the future?
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April 3, 2012 10:59:27 PM

If your looking for stable memory than ECC is what you're looking for and the speed as far as timings are the same personally I have found that it will run a little faster than memory of the same speed and this memory is unbuffered so o-clocking is a option as well.

He cannot have one.

Only ->> 4 x DIMM, Max. 16 GB, DDR3 1800(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066

Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory
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a c 146 } Memory
April 3, 2012 11:04:15 PM

The Kingston is good RAM.

But this Corsair is more flexible to OC. So if u are not OC'ing the RAM, get Kingston.

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April 8, 2012 12:52:25 AM

Best answer selected by Xionas.
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a c 146 } Memory
April 8, 2012 1:29:38 AM

Good luck!
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April 8, 2012 1:29:54 AM

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