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April 18, 2011 6:29:17 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Next week or so for test unit
Budget Range: (e.g.: 600-800) Sub $500 (close is good enough)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: MS office type stuff, many IE windows open at once. Many times 8-9 different apps running.

Parts Not Required: :keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: : newegg.com

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: Must support dual DVI 1920 x 1080 without breaking a sweat (current problem with units being replaced). Smaller case would be nice but not needed. I don't need huge drive(s) but 160 + gig at least would be nice.

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: Not needed

Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080 x 2 (extended dual DVI) minimum

Additional Comments: 6 USB ports would be nice. No gaming needed. I'd like a mirror drive capibility going forward on MOBO but I'm not going to gripe if it can't. I will build one now and if it goes well, we will roll out at least 20 of these with Win 7 Pro Open lic. as an image. Audio is required but at a minimum.


You guys helped me build a home media PC and it rocks still so i'm hoping for help here too :) 

I did look through the forum a bit but didn't see anything with these specific video specs.

Thanks a ton!

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April 19, 2011 8:59:08 AM

hi. Sorry it took so long for anyone to reply to your post!

Here is an off the cuff suggestion for your build that should remain well under $500

AMD Athlon II X3 450: $80
a basic CPU. You could go with a dual core for $5-20 less, but you'll use the extra core. An intel sandy brige is faster, but this is plenty fast enough, given you're just doing office apps, and $45 cheaper.

ASRock 880GM-LE: $60
a basic board, lacks SATA3/USB3, but not really needed for an office PC. it will support RAID 0/1/10

G.Skill 4 GB DDR3: $40
basic and plenty for having multiple applications open

EVGA GT430 1 GB: $75
dual DVI ports and inexpensive

500 GB HDD: $40
probly overkill size, but you'll only save a few dollars on anything less, if you want RAID1, get two of them. Pick Western Digital, Seagate, or Hitachi in this price point

Rosewill R218 case: $30
its basic, with a single 120mm fan, but plenty of room.

Xigmatek PC402 400W 80+ Bronze PSU: $40
The Antec 380 would be an alternative, if you don't mind buying 20 power cords :)  The Xigmatek got a great review here on toms in october 2010, and comes with a lifetime warranty

DVD burner: $19
just pick the cheapest one

total: $384
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April 19, 2011 10:07:06 AM

I just finished a smaller job using AMD and X4 840s... I think at your budget you would be happier with Intel though. A dual core that is hyperthreaded is going to work better for you here than the quad. IE is not so CPU intensive really.

  • ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
    I like it. I disagree that they are all the same, but you probably don't need a lot here if you are using volume licensing and cloning drives.

  • COOLER MASTER Elite 341 RC-341C-KKN1-GP Black Steel MicroATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    It's a basic case, compact but adequate to work in. The three I just built in all worked well... one arrived without the vents in the side panel, but who cares in an office rig.

  • Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    I've never seen one of these fail. The older AAJS models were hot and noisy, but these have been in production for 5 or 6 years for a reason ;) 

  • EVGA 01G-P3-1431-KR GeForce GT 430 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
    Seems like SS has a good plan there on the GPU

  • SeaSonic S12II 380B 380W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
    I just used the Antec, but you can't... and I really believe in Seasonic for quality, stability and longevity. I put one of these in a build for my sister last month. It's very quiet.

  • G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS
    Yep used these in the AMD builds, no issues at all. Tiny little chips on these.

  • ASRock H61ICAFE LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    Price is right and the features are there. I haven't personally used any H61 boards.

  • Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I32100

    TOTAL: $513.71 That's my total shipped. Yours may vary.

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    April 19, 2011 12:27:35 PM

    My Build is a within your 600-$800 budget but over your target of $500. This is because I used 2 enterprise level hard drives for a mirrored Raid setup. you can go with a different Drive(s) and bring it into budget if needed. I was hoping to help with you raid 1 desire. I also used i3 Sandy Bridge CPU. Corporate guys alway like to know they have the latest Tech :)  I just chose a proven case and PSU. I like the handle for lugging them from the IT department to the users office.

    LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    Item #: N82E16827106289
    $19.99

    APEX TX-381-C Black Steel Micro ATX Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    Item #: N82E16811154094
    -$3.00 Instant
    $32.99
    $29.99

    Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    Item #: N82E16817371033
    -$20.00 Instant
    $59.99
    $39.99

    Western Digital RE4 WD2503ABYX 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Enterprise Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    Item #: N82E16822136797
    $139.98
    ($69.99 each)

    EVGA 01G-P3-1431-KR GeForce GT 430 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    Item #: N82E16814130609
    $10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
    $74.99

    Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    Item #: N82E16820146748
    $39.99

    ASUS P8H67-M LX (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H67 SATA 6Gb/s Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    Item #: N82E16813131713
    $98.99

    Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I32100
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
    Item #: N82E16819115078
    $124.99
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    April 19, 2011 1:04:03 PM

    I think my build is the only one nder $500. If you add teh second hard drive for RAID, it goes from $384 to $424, still under $500
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    April 19, 2011 1:05:51 PM

    Ugh, when I cut and pasted the outline the "examples" weren't deleted from the quote on "budget range". It does need to be @ or near $500 not the 600-800 range in the example. Sorry about that JD. The SA on WIN 7 Pro puts me in that range but I planned for that already thus the $500 on hardware.
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    April 19, 2011 3:47:52 PM

    mousenut said:
    Ugh, when I cut and pasted the outline the "examples" weren't deleted from the quote on "budget range". It does need to be @ or near $500 not the 600-800 range in the example. Sorry about that JD. The SA on WIN 7 Pro puts me in that range but I planned for that already thus the $500 on hardware.



    all you have to do is subsitute these for the Enterprise level HDD in my build and you'll be at $517 +$20 shipping

    these drives were also built for running in Raid. Proximon also recommended this drive.
    Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAKS 320GB
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    I would try to stick with a sandy bridge build so that you have upgrade paths in the future. The AMD AM3 socket (with out the proper [upgradeable] MB/Bios) is at the end of the road until Bulldozer hits the market. Not the you need performance now, but it's nice to have options.
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    April 19, 2011 3:55:15 PM

    I was just looking at subbing those smaller drives but keeping the RAID up front with the test build rather than having to goof with adding it later on rollout untested (well, less-tested).

    Half of me is liking the case w/handle half of me is shivering over the luggage jokes I'm going to get for sure....
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    April 19, 2011 5:36:30 PM

    mousenut said:
    I was just looking at subbing those smaller drives but keeping the RAID up front with the test build rather than having to goof with adding it later on rollout untested (well, less-tested).

    Half of me is liking the case w/handle half of me is shivering over the luggage jokes I'm going to get for sure....


    LOL! yeah I got called a bell boy once. I had one in each hand and under my arm pit. they really don't weight much as long as it's just an office build.
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    April 19, 2011 7:52:07 PM

    Don't forget, the EA-380D comes without power cable. Other than that it's great, and small also. I like the green color, and it doesn't produce much heat. Unlike this temporary PC P&C 610W I have here.
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    April 19, 2011 8:17:58 PM

    Proximon said:
    Don't forget, the EA-380D comes without power cable. Other than that it's great, and small also. I like the green color, and it doesn't produce much heat. Unlike this temporary PC P&C 610W I have here.


    Looks like the TX-381 does though (shows it in the last picture next to the screws) but I have a tub filled with power cords for just such an occasion anyway. Thanks though!

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    W/ 2 HDD's and 1 optical, am I going to be short on SATA cables?

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    April 19, 2011 8:20:31 PM

    Best answer selected by mousenut.
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    April 19, 2011 8:54:05 PM

    Just came across this:

    Antec Neo Eco
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Promo code here
    http://www.newegg.com/emailpromo/?cm_sp=ShoppingGuide12...
    Makes it $35.

    Review of the 520W:
    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=317192
    It's the same design, would likely be an even better performer.

    And yes, good catch on that. Cheaper boards do often ship with only one SATA cable and if you are going to have two HDDs and one optical that's three. I wonder if they can be bought in bulk cheaply? Probably.
    http://www.cwc-group.com/idecables.html
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    April 20, 2011 4:24:52 AM

    you will need one SATA cable for the mirrored drives. the MB comes with 1 SATA3G and 1 SATA6G cable.
    yes, the case comes with the a power cord.

    sometimes I don't think about things like that, as I have parts laying around in my shop and a electronic store near by. if you are replacing older computers and they have SATA in them you could buy just a few cables to be used on the first deployment wave, then scavenge the cables off the replaced systems.
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    April 20, 2011 12:52:30 PM

    I have tons of odd parts for single builds but when I get to a large group, I have to make sure I account for 20 x everything I forgot which is another reason for test builds. I forgot DVI cables once on a 55 unit rollout back when they weren't cheap.

    I forgot about scavanging.... I might be able to sub the optical drives alltogether...hmmmm.
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