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April 18, 2011 7:53:54 PM

Thanks in advance for your time (and patience):

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

Budget Range: ($800 - $1200) Before Rebates up to $500 more (Monitor not included in budget, but I still need one)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming (to wit: WOW), running Computer Algebra System calculations, surfing the internet, watching movies

Parts Not Required: mouse ,OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (newegg.com, amazon.com, other suggestions?)

Country of Origin: (USA)

Parts Preferences: No strong commitment to any manufacturer

Overclocking: Maybe (Don’t know much about it)

SLI or Crossfire: 1 or 2 years down the road - maybe

Monitor Resolution: Need advice here

Additional Comments: The only computer game i play is World of Warcraft, which it is my understanding, does not require an extremely powerful graphics card. Also, I am a bit paranoid about both bad power supplies and potential overheating, so I would rather spend a bit more in a good power supply and great cooling system than worry that my computer will burn up or explode. And finally, as a researcher, a computer crash could set me back many years, so I need a reliable system which I can use to backup my material pretty much on a weekly basis. What I have been doing for the last couple of years was keeping alot of flash-drives handy, but it is time for an upgrade.

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Parts I would like to buy

CPU: Either Intel core i5 2500 or Intel core i5 2500k (suggestions?)
LGA1155, 4 cores, 3.3 Ghz, Turbo at 3.7 Ghz, no hyperthreading, 6 Mb cache, with Smart Cache, Bus/core ratio = 33, 95 W

Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0) P67 Sata 6gb/s, USB 3.0, ATX

GPU: EVGA 01G-P3-1366-TR GeForce GTX 460 SE (Fermi)
1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
(I don’t know which producer to go with here)

Hard Drive:
1) OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGTE60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
2) Regular old circa 500 Gb hard drive (need suggestions here please).

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-8GBXH
timing: 7-7-7-21 (although I am not exactly sure what this means)

From here on out, I have no educated ideas about what to buy, so I defer to your knowledge.

Case: ?? Cooler master
Power Supply: ??
Cooling: ??
Monitor: ?? one that takes advantage of the components I have - this is not included in the budget I claimed above. I am looking to spend between $200-300 on this.
Optical Drive: cd/dvd burner, maybe even blu-ray ?

Thanks again,
April 18, 2011 8:19:52 PM

I will go over a couple things first of all get the Intel® Core™ I5 2500K. The price difference it is an outstanding deal over the Intel Core I5 2500. This will give you one of the top performing processors on the market. Then match that processor up with a solid P67 based board. When it comes to cases you need to spend a little time looking at the features of the case and see which one you would like I like my Antec case but it isn’t for everyone. Once you have an idea on what items you are going to be adding to the build you can go here to find out what you need on the low end for a power supply http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp.

Christain Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
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April 18, 2011 8:28:53 PM

Get the i5-2500K, you won't regret those $20 extra for it. MB, RAM and the SSD are good, but the GPU isn't. Even the GTX460 768MB outperforms the SE version. Here are the components with the exception of the platform and the HDD:

GPU: MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II OC Radeon HD 6950 2GB
PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W
Case: COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced
Optical: LITE-ON Black 22X

Total w/ platform and SSD: $1139 (it's over $1000 but you stated that it can go $200 +/- :) )

As for the monitor i'd recommend you to look for the Dell U2311H. It should be $280 max. That price is low though for an monitor with an IPS panel, so it has a very good price/performance ratio.
As for the GPU the HD 6950 2GB will lay wast on that GTX460 SE, it's very worth the extra 100$.
The i5-2500K goes to ~4.2GHz pretty easily with the stock fan, so i think that you won't need an aftermarket cooler. If you ever feel the need of one, get the CM Hyper 212+.

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April 18, 2011 8:33:42 PM

IntelEnthusiast said:
I will go over a couple things first of all get the Intel® Core™ I5 2500K. The price difference it is an outstanding deal over the Intel Core I5 2500. This will give you one of the top performing processors on the market. Then match that processor up with a solid P67 based board. When it comes to cases you need to spend a little time looking at the features of the case and see which one you would like I like my Antec case but it isn’t for everyone. Once you have an idea on what items you are going to be adding to the build you can go here to find out what you need on the low end for a power supply http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp.

Christain Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team


I appreciate the advice. I will definitely go with 2500k. Now, am I to understand you don't think the P67 board that I chose, the ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0), is a solid board?

I will get on the case situation right away. What i had in mind was Cooler Master HAF ATX Mid Tower Case, RC-922M-KKN1-GP (Black) . Is that a good one?
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April 18, 2011 8:47:55 PM

unknown_13 said:
Get the i5-2500K, you won't regret those $20 extra for it. MB, RAM and the SSD are good, but the GPU isn't. Even the GTX460 768MB outperforms the SE version. Here are the components with the exception of the platform and the HDD:

GPU: MSI R6950 Twin Frozr II OC Radeon HD 6950 2GB
PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W
Case: COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced
Optical: LITE-ON Black 22X

Total w/ platform and SSD: $1139 (it's over $1000 but you stated that it can go $200 +/- :) )

As for the monitor i'd recommend you to look for the Dell U2311H. It should be $280 max. That price is low though for an monitor with an IPS panel, so it has a very good price/performance ratio.
As for the GPU the HD 6950 2GB will lay wast on that GTX460 SE, it's very worth the extra 100$.
The i5-2500K goes to ~4.2GHz pretty easily with the stock fan, so i think that you won't need an aftermarket cooler. If you ever feel the need of one, get the CM Hyper 212+.



I am really liking your suggestions here, I'm sold on the PSU, case and optical, and the monitor looks great. And although as you said, the price is definitely within my range, I am curious if I will see the difference in the GPU you suggest vs the GTX460 SE watching movies or playing WOW?
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April 18, 2011 9:42:48 PM

alephbeta said:
I am really liking your suggestions here, I'm sold on the PSU, case and optical, and the monitor looks great. And although as you said, the price is definitely within my range, I am curious if I will see the difference in the GPU you suggest vs the GTX460 SE watching movies or playing WOW?


Not in movies, but you will see some difference in WOW, although that game is more CPU/RAM dependent.
Now, aside from WOW, you will notice big difference in all other games, especially upcoming ones, like Battlefield 3.
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April 18, 2011 10:20:53 PM

I forgot to add, which wireless card can I get, that doesn't bottleneck the gaming speed too much?
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April 25, 2011 2:14:07 PM

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