I7 980 vs i7 2600k
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zackb101
July 19, 2011 5:05:52 AM
I am upgrading to hopefully a vicious gaming computer and I recently bought 16 gb of ram, a new motherboard, and a new power supply, now I was wondering because I'll nearly always use my PC for the highest end gaming, should I get the i7 980, or the new 2nd generation i7 2600k. I hear a lot of people saying go with the 2600k but the i7 980 has 6 cores, while the 2600k has 4.
What's your opinions, I'm gonna be gaming, so either the i7 980 or a new 2nd generation i7. Please advise! Thanks!
What I have is the GTX 590, which requires 2 PCIE x16 slots, 16 gbs of tri channel ram, which requires a board that supports tri channel and has 4 slots for ram, and I need, if I upgrade, a new motherboard that supports 1155 socket.
What's your opinions, I'm gonna be gaming, so either the i7 980 or a new 2nd generation i7. Please advise! Thanks!
What I have is the GTX 590, which requires 2 PCIE x16 slots, 16 gbs of tri channel ram, which requires a board that supports tri channel and has 4 slots for ram, and I need, if I upgrade, a new motherboard that supports 1155 socket.
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Frizzo
July 19, 2011 5:15:15 AM
zackb101
July 19, 2011 5:17:10 AM
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Frizzo
July 19, 2011 5:22:27 AM
zackb101
July 19, 2011 5:24:23 AM
brandondiep
July 19, 2011 5:34:08 AM
zackb101
July 19, 2011 5:41:23 AM
zackb101
July 19, 2011 6:01:03 AM
Frizzo
July 19, 2011 6:59:27 AM
good choice on combo. the board offers i would think the best overclocking potential for that chip. i only did a few hours of reading, and had the chip running stable at 4.8ghz with good temperature. (few hours because once you see the amount of options in bios, you will understand). although it does offer a dumbed down overclocking tool.
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zackb101
July 19, 2011 4:17:34 PM
Yeah they have those simplified overclocking tools for more amateur overclockers. But I do realize that the new UEFI bios is actually really good for overclocking because of the interface and the amount of options it gives. The 2600K even seems great for non overclockers because the 3.40 GHz is as good as it gets without spending $1000 on a first generation i7 extreme. Well I've sent the motherboard back no hassles and convinced Newegg to pay return shipping. The new Mobo and CPU are on the way
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zackb101
July 19, 2011 4:34:16 PM
The Z68 boards offer 2 new features that are not offered on the P67 board. They are Intel® SRT (Smart Response Technology) also called SSD caching and support for the IGP (Intergraded Graphics on Processor). It is important to note that Gigabyte release a number of Z68 boards without support for the IGP.
With Intel SRT you can use a small SSD to cache or store your commonly used applications to give you better boot and access times for anything on it without having to manage the programs on the SSD to keep them current. This will give you performance close to that of having a SSD as your boot drive with a smaller size.
With the support for the IGP you can use it as a backup for a dedicated video card or if you have the Lucidlogix Virtu software (come with most Z68 boards) you can switch between them to get the best performance for the application you are running.
So in the end the value and performance of the 2nd generation Intel Core processor give them an advantage over the 1st generation processors in everything except for the very highest in heavily multi-threaded applications at hundreds of dollars less.
Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
With Intel SRT you can use a small SSD to cache or store your commonly used applications to give you better boot and access times for anything on it without having to manage the programs on the SSD to keep them current. This will give you performance close to that of having a SSD as your boot drive with a smaller size.
With the support for the IGP you can use it as a backup for a dedicated video card or if you have the Lucidlogix Virtu software (come with most Z68 boards) you can switch between them to get the best performance for the application you are running.
So in the end the value and performance of the 2nd generation Intel Core processor give them an advantage over the 1st generation processors in everything except for the very highest in heavily multi-threaded applications at hundreds of dollars less.
Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
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zackb101
July 19, 2011 4:58:09 PM
brandondiep
July 19, 2011 7:24:14 PM
zackb101
July 19, 2011 8:04:31 PM
zackb101
July 20, 2011 12:02:37 AM
I've got yet another question... I think the gtx 590 has 2 power connections at the top of it, so I connect those, and as well as the motherboard I'm getting allows a molex to be plugged in to power the pcie X16 slots. So is it necessary for the gpu to have both power cords attached AND a molex plugged in to provide more power. I'm kind of a failure in the power department, will the gpu limit itself to how much power it will take, is there even such a thing as TOO much power going to it? Thanks!
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brandondiep
July 20, 2011 12:57:06 AM
brandondiep
July 20, 2011 1:01:33 AM
zackb101
July 20, 2011 3:17:46 AM
brandondiep said:
You can always check the manual when you get the board, and I am so jealous!!!!! The board looks beast lol. I'm probably getting a p8z68 pro, 2500k with my sli 460s. Have fun gaming brahThanks! I've been saving up for a long time now. About the molex plug, If I were to plug it in for the hell of it, and possibly to power other PCIE devices, would it damage my GPU?
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Just wait till Q4 2011 or Q1 2012 for the new Ivy-Bridge/Sandy-Bridge E to come out... It'll smoke the crap out of 2600k but the price would be 1Grand for the 3000K "series"(Not exactly 3000 but 3800 or similar) and $300 for the Non K... The Ivy-Bridge came with 4(Locked, maybe unlock?) and 6(Unlocked) cores with Hyper Threading... I didn't hear much about the Ivy-Bridge and i might be wrong with these stuff i tell...
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zackb101
July 20, 2011 3:48:07 AM
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zackb101 said:
When would the exact month be that the new CPU's will come out? I don't think it's worth the wait it probably won't be a big performance boost without spending an extra $700. If it's only gonna be like 2 months I'll wait though for the new $300 cards. Thanks.(also will the socket be the same)
The Socket for the new processor is LGA 2011 with 2011 pins... As you can see the Pick below(Click on link) it shows how big the LGA 2011 is!...
http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/live-news-feeds/44028-as...
Review is here(PCI-E is under the layer of the block):
http://vr-zone.com/articles/asus-danshui-bay--dual-cpus...
Discussion: http://www.asusrog.com/forums/showthread.php?2528-1366-...!-!
I do not know when it well be out but in probably Q4 or Q1 2012 but it also depend on Intel solving some issues(What I heard)... I Recommend waiting for the LGA 2011(Ivy-Bridge) so just wait because it's totally worth the wait... BUT, your can buy your 2600k But it'll get smoke by Ivy Bridge... Think of it as LGA 1156 versus LGA 1336, LGA 1336 Wins by a lot LOL... Your choice, SandyBridge or IvyBridge which comes in few months...
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willonidas
July 20, 2011 7:56:42 AM
Legend, I think you might have the processors mixed up.
I've read it was the Sandy Bridge-E that was going to be on the X79 LGA2011 chipset. While the Ivy Bridge is going to be on the same LGA1155 chipset as the current Sandy Bridge now.
Zack:
I think you're better off buying the i7 2600k and LGA1155 motherboard. I can only speculate but prices for the Q4 2011/Q1 2012 processors and motherboards are going to be pretty high. If you wait for it to come out and then again for the prices to drop then you'll end up waiting for the next piece of tech to be released. Etc etc.
The i5 2500k and i7 2600k should be more than enough for games now and in the future, the new processors are really only for over clocking enthusiasts.
About the mobo molex connector, was that labelled for PCIe use? Most of the time those are on the board for when you over-clock the CPU and you need more power for stability. Other wise the 2 x 8 pin connector for the GPU is fine.
I've read it was the Sandy Bridge-E that was going to be on the X79 LGA2011 chipset. While the Ivy Bridge is going to be on the same LGA1155 chipset as the current Sandy Bridge now.
Zack:
I think you're better off buying the i7 2600k and LGA1155 motherboard. I can only speculate but prices for the Q4 2011/Q1 2012 processors and motherboards are going to be pretty high. If you wait for it to come out and then again for the prices to drop then you'll end up waiting for the next piece of tech to be released. Etc etc.
The i5 2500k and i7 2600k should be more than enough for games now and in the future, the new processors are really only for over clocking enthusiasts.
About the mobo molex connector, was that labelled for PCIe use? Most of the time those are on the board for when you over-clock the CPU and you need more power for stability. Other wise the 2 x 8 pin connector for the GPU is fine.
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willonidas said:
Legend, I think you might have the processors mixed up.I've read it was the Sandy Bridge-E that was going to be on the X79 LGA2011 chipset. While the Ivy Bridge is going to be on the same LGA1155 chipset as the current Sandy Bridge now.
I never knew IvyBridge is ganna be LGA 1155 LOL.. Thanks for the info XD...
@Zack, this is your choice of getting 2500k/2600k or the New SandyBridge-E(LGA 2011... The i7-990x is still the Best right now BUT it's going to be replaced by sandyBridge-E so it means that SandyBridge-E is going to be better than i7-2600k and i7-990x because i7-9XX/x58 is dead when the SandyBridge-E comes out(No one will be getting i7-9XX anymore)... If you want to know how the performance is boosted, Think of it as LGA1155 replaced LGA1156 and LGA1155 dominated but it "barely" beat 990X but again, LGA 1336 is going to be replaced by LGA2011...
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zackb101
July 20, 2011 5:58:16 PM
willonidas said:
Legend, I think you might have the processors mixed up.I've read it was the Sandy Bridge-E that was going to be on the X79 LGA2011 chipset. While the Ivy Bridge is going to be on the same LGA1155 chipset as the current Sandy Bridge now.
Zack:
I think you're better off buying the i7 2600k and LGA1155 motherboard. I can only speculate but prices for the Q4 2011/Q1 2012 processors and motherboards are going to be pretty high. If you wait for it to come out and then again for the prices to drop then you'll end up waiting for the next piece of tech to be released. Etc etc.
The i5 2500k and i7 2600k should be more than enough for games now and in the future, the new processors are really only for over clocking enthusiasts.
About the mobo molex connector, was that labelled for PCIe use? Most of the time those are on the board for when you over-clock the CPU and you need more power for stability. Other wise the 2 x 8 pin connector for the GPU is fine.
Yeah the molex port gives extra power to the PCIe slots, it's on the Asus maximus 4 Z motherboard. If I did plug it in however, would it damage parts? Again do the devices such as GPU etc in those ports limit what voltage they take in? Thanks!
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I think people are going overboard on this thread an overclocked 2500K is all you need for a 590 (stock will do) I don't think Ivy bridge or sandybridge E will give you more than a few FPS improvement unless of course you plan to SLi them. What monitor are you planning to use anyway. If you are waiting for 6 ,months for newer CPUs then by the time it arrives you will want to wait another 6 months for a GTX 690 or something.
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brandondiep
July 20, 2011 8:39:27 PM
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