AMD Phenom vs AMD Athlon II

Hello,
I have and older phenom 9500 quad @ 2.2ghz, I have a chance to get an athlon ii x3 455 for at a good discount. Would you consider that an upgrade or downgrade? I do lots of photo editing with nik software, lightroom3 and CS5.
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  1. It will be faster. Have you checked your board specs under "cpu support" to be sure it works. Many older am2 boards won't run am3 cpus.
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    its an upgrade, at discount how much of a discount are we talking about? a phenom 955 would be a better option.

    heres the closest comparison i could find, but its the phenom 9650 (a bit better than the 9500) vs the athlon 455:
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/23?vs=202

    and whats your mobo?

    Unfortunately I have and hp machine with a Narra3 board, so there won't be any bios manipulation of the chip. I have 6 gigs of ram and a geforce 9300 graphics card.
  3. o1die said:
    It will be faster. Have you checked your board specs under "cpu support" to be sure it works. Many older am2 boards won't run am3 cpus.


    It's an AM2+ board, so it should be fine.
  4. Quote:
    its an upgrade, at discount how much of a discount are we talking about? a phenom 955 would be a better option.

    heres the closest comparison i could find, but its the phenom 9650 (a bit better than the 9500) vs the athlon 455:
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/23?vs=202

    and whats your mobo?


    Thanks for the link!
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    still some AM2+ boards, especially HP ones sometimes don't support AM3 CPUs, and how much are you getting the athlon 455 for?


    $60 (NIB)
  6. Don't have a lot of money to spend at the moment, i just added 2 gigs of ram to get to the 6 I currently have and thought this processor would give me a little boost over the phenom 9500. (if it works on my board)
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    60 US dollars? isnt NIB national bank of ireland? so is that euros?

    (New In Box) from a local computer place.
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    thats a good price, whats your PC make/model we can check if that CPU is compatible if you want.


    HP Media Center m9100Z

    Thanks.
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    unfortunetely that PC can only support up to a phenom 9600:
    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01357135&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&product=3659709#N94

    it might work though, is there a chance that you could return the CPU if it doesnt? be sure to upgrade to the latest BIOS before trying to upgrade.


    Thanks for your help, I am gonna give it a shot. I can return it if need be. I just hate the lack of control from these hp bios software.
  10. That's what I tried to tell him. I've had that board before, and I don't remember it supporting am3 cpus.
  11. o1die said:
    That's what I tried to tell him. I've had that board before, and I don't remember it supporting am3 cpus.


    Hey, on this forum I found several people with the narra3 boards running phenom IIs that were 95watts. I installed the 95watt athlon ii x3 and just have blank screens, any idea why it works on some and not on others?

    Any ideas on a board that will fit my m9100z case that has the ability to unlock and overclock?

    Thanks.
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    if your looking for the lowest cost board that can overclock and unlock this would be what you'd be looking for (you can use 2 sticks of DDR2 ram in this):
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157204&Tpk=ASRock%20N68C-S%20UCC
    but i would reccommend spending more, this is the minimum i would reccommend going (but this board would require buying some DDR3 ram):
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131728

    and this would be a good CPU cooler if you are planning to overclock that will fit in the case:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=35-185-097&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=am2%2B#scrollFullInfo

    Thanks for the help. I ended up with these two items that were on sale Friday.

    G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR

    ASUS M4A78LT-M AM3 AMD 760G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

    Hope they do ok.
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    yeah it should be fine, it supports overclocking and core unlocking, that board might even support the new bulldozer lineup, but thats not certain.


    I got everything installed and even got the 4th core unlocked and running at 3.5ghz right now. :) My only issue is the hp front panel connector is different than the asus board connector. I can get it to power on, but I have no lights. Any ideas on how to fix that?
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    yep i had this before, just see what wires connect to what and look at the mobo manual, i had to do a bit of rewiring in my ol' HP case.


    Can you tell me about the cpu over voltage in the bios of the M4A78LT-M board? I am not exactly sure if I am adding volts to the stock voltage or is that the voltage I want it to be when I hit the + sign?>?
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