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April 20, 2011 8:15:52 AM

I am very lazy about upgrades. I've been using an overclocked pentium-d and geforce 8800 gt for years and years. I was planning to finally upgrade as soon as new intel chipsets came out or bulldozer made me go over to AMD. A coolant leak and two fan burnouts while the computer was running unattended conspired to force me into upgrading now, instead of waiting any longer.

Approximate Purchase Date: The next day or two


Budget Range: $2k or so


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, surfing, streaming video (in and out), music, often all at the same time


Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, OS. Not sure on monitor. Have a trusty old viewsonic, I may want to pick up one or two new monitors though.


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com


Country of Origin: US


Parts Preferences: I am partial to Asus and Nvidia, but am out of the loop so I could be swayed over


Overclocking: Yes


SLI or Crossfire: As an upgrade path


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1440 is what I am running now, 1920x1080 would probably be what I buy if I replace it.


Additional Comments: Water cooling and I never clicked. Time for trusty air. I am unsure about what I need to go dual-monitor and also unsure on storage.

Current Build:

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Compucase Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior
Perhaps more than I need, but space and lots of moving air can't hurt.

DVD: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Writer LightScribe Support

Mobo: ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Processor: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
Not really sure if I need the hyper-threading, but having it could help me justify not upgrading in the future!

CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
I see a shell-shocker G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBRL 8 more gigs and 1 slower CAS for 20 dollars more? Should I jump at this deal?

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Do I really get anything out of the SATA 6? Would I be better off with a SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive?

SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Out of stock, but hopefully back later today. Again, does the faster SATA matter? Would I be better off going with the OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX120G 3.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)? ~120gigs is pretty much the perfect amount for me I think. Would 2 64gig SSD's be better?

Video Card: EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1573-AR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Does getting the superclocked version mean if I want to upgrade to SLI in the future, I would need the same superclocked kind? If that is the case, would it be better to get a regular clocked version with the expectation of those being easier to still find in the future?

PSU: CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Speakers: Logitech Z523 40 Watts RMS 2.1 Speaker System

Monitor: I dunno, maybe? If I do get one, should I go dual-monitor with my old one, toss it and get two new ones?


I am quite rusty at this. Any help would be much appreciated, even if it's something like "don't forget to get this cable, or buy an extra couple of these screws."

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April 20, 2011 2:17:43 PM

Case - 932 is outdated and lacks modern features like front USB 3 port. The HAF-X ($180) or DF-85 are great ..... I have built with both and give the DF-85 an edge for the hot swap 2.5" external bay and ability to use CPX form factor PSU's.

PSU - you'll need to move to the 850's w/ twin 570's. There are other PSU's like the HX850 that get same 10.0 PSU performance rating as the HX850 ($155) but are waaaay less expensive.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

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the XFX 850W Black Edition [$130] came looking to make a splash, and ended up doing a cannonball big enough to just about drown the competition. Voltage regulation is nothing short of fantastic, efficiency is excellent, and ripple and noise is just about nonexistent.


http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

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It [CP-850 - $110] is completely unmatched by any ATX unit on the market I can think of. You'd have to spend twice as much as this thing costs to find the next best thing, performance wise.


MoBo / CPU - get the combo and save $20 .... or upgrade to the WS Revolution and run yur GFX cards at x16 x16 instead of x8 x8

2600k combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
2500k combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Cooler - Hyper 212 was 2009's best low budget cooler. It's been replaced by the Scythe Mugen 2 which is as low as I'd go. Category leaders are now the Thermalright Silver Arrow as an air cooler and the Antec Kuhler 620 if ya like those self contained water jobs. Note boards w/ extra PCI-E slots like the WS Revolution may have fit problems w/ cooler hitting top GFX cards. Kuhler will hit .... Silver Arrow needs to be rotated 90 degrees to fit.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

SSD - Vertex 3 rules

HD - SATA III interface on the WD will give an edge on transfers from cache, for $20 could be considered worth it.

RAM - Better choices available ... with 1 GFX card, memory may not bottleneck you in gaming, that will likely change w/ addition of 2nd. http://www.anandtech.com/show/2792/12

22.3 % (SLI) increase in minimum frame rated w/ C6 instead of C8 in Far Cry 2
18% (single card) / 5% (SLI) increase in minimum frame rated w/ C6 instead of C8 in Dawn of war
15% (single card) / 5% (SLI) increase in minimum frame rated w/ C6 instead of C8 in World in Conflict

At CAS 9, I'd get these (2 x 4GB) Corsair CAS 9, CAS 7 choice in build below
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GFX - Two 570's ($670) get 873 fps in Guri3D's game suite ..... Two 560 ti's (900MHz version) get 862 fps, just 11 fps less, for $480. I overclocked my son's from 900 MHz to 1000MHz w/ no increase in voltage .... they run at only 75C in OCCT GPU test

This will be $1980

Case - $155 - Antec DF-85 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fans - $15 - Antec Red 120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $110 - Antec CP-850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $260 - ASUS P8P67 WS Revolution http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU - $315 - Intel Core i5-2600K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler - $40 - Scythe SCMG 2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $145 - (2 x 4GB) Mushkin CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $240 - Gigabyte GTX 560 Factory Overclocked (900MHz) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $240 - Same
HD - $65 - Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 rpm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $300 - OCZ Vertex 3 2.5" 120GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $90 - Plextor BR Combo Drive w/ LS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Card Reader 55 in 1 Card Reader http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If y decide ya don't need the 2600K, it subtracts $90 from the build ($224)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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April 20, 2011 2:44:23 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Case - 932 is outdated and lacks modern features like front USB 3 port. The HAF-X or DF-85 are great ..... built with both and give the DF-85 an edge for the hot swap 2.5" external bay and ability to use CPX form factor PSU's.

PSU - you'll need to move to the 850's w/ twin 570's

MoBo / CPU - get the combo and save $20


The case is a "New Version w/ USB 3.0 & Black Interior " according to newegg. Front Ports - USB 3.0 x 2, USB 2.0 x 4, IEEE1394a x 1, eSATA x 1, Mic x 1, Audio x 1.

I wouldn't get much use out of hot-swappable drives, and I don't really know what CPX form factor PSU's would offer me, but the DF-85 is $10 cheaper for one less USB 3.0 on the front. Hrmm.

Any suggestions on 850w PSU's? I'm also still confused about SATAII vs III.

-edit- You edited and added to your post while I was making mine. Maybe you already answered what I'm asking!
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April 20, 2011 3:00:52 PM

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The case is a "New Version w/ USB 3.0 & Black Interior " according to newegg. Front Ports - USB 3.0 x 2, USB 2.0 x 4, IEEE1394a x 1, eSATA x 1, Mic x 1, Audio x 1.


Hadn't seen that yet, thanks for the tip ..... don't really understand it's niche though with the HAF-X 942 competing with it. I have built with the HAF 922, HAF-932, HAF-X, Antec 902, Antec 900, Antec 300 and DF-85. One thing I don't like is the toolless features on the HAF's....feel very flimsy and often had difficulty getting things to "snap in". OTOH, the "security doors" on the 5.25 bays on the DF can be annoying during the build process when you swap CD's 20 times installing drivers .... after that ya forget about em. My kids like it as they can prevent each other from playing on installing games and playing on their systems.

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I wouldn't get much use out of hot-swappable drives, and I don't really know what CPX form factor PSU's would offer me, but the DF-85 is $10 cheaper for one less USB 3.0 on the front. Hrmm.


CPX is simply bigger .... means they don't have to cram all that stuff into a tinier space, cutting costs and allowing better cooling with lower noise. In short ... the PSU runs quieter and costs less

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Any suggestions on 850w PSU's? I'm also still confused about SATAII vs III.


CP-850 in DF-85
XFX Black Edition 850 in any of the HAF's

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-edit- You edited and added to your post while I was making mine. Maybe you already answered what I'm asking!


yes, accidentally sent before I was done.... must have hit some key combo that "submits" message. Hope I have answered all ya questions.
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April 20, 2011 3:13:43 PM

How far into the future you can get this processor to work for you I can’t but I will say this Intel® Core I7 2600K is one of the most powerful processors on the market today. With the ability to overclock you are well set up to get the maximum lifespan of any processor out there with this one.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
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April 20, 2011 3:54:30 PM

You save $20 on shipping if you get that Cooler Master case through amazon.

Here's dual factory over clocked gtx 560's in SLI, after market cpu h/s (thermal paste included), full HD LED 2ms Asus gaming monitor, a quicker, and quiter 1TB h/d, etc....

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Advanced-Tower-Supe... $154.82 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Full Tower Case with SuperSpeed USB 3.0 - (RC-932-KKN5-GP)

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CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active ...
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$30.00 Combo Price: $259.98
ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$10.00 Combo Price: $554.98 $20.00 Mail-In Rebate Price After Mail-In Rebate(s): $534.98
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video ...
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Express-N560GTX-TWIN-FROZ... $249.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
MSI GeForce GTX560 1 GB DDR5 2DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express Video Card N560GTX TI TWIN FROZR II OC

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10... $27.62 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.amazon.com/Lite--LightScribe-Layer-Drive-IHA... $24.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98 - Retail (Black)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $179.99 - $169.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
ASUS VH238H Black 23" Full HD HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor w/Speakers 250 cd/m2 ASCR 50,000,000:1

Total: $1,647.35 - $1,597.35 after rebates
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