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February 15, 2011 6:46:46 PM

I will be rocking that in T minus 2 hours. I'll be sure to keep my 11.1a install file handy just in case...
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February 15, 2011 9:07:35 PM


Multi-GPU Crossfire Installation (3x5850)
Just like with the 11.1a installation, the video drivers installed just fine. The HDMI/DP Audio driver failed (the message in the installation log):

Single-GPU Installation (1x5450)
Flawless installation

Conclusion
11.2 Driver performance in crossfire is comparable to 11.1a (~140fps average in Medal of Honor), though the install is still slightly flawed for crossfire setups. The last fully functioning (sound and video) install for crossfire setups was 10.12.

Single card installation works without a hitch.

Am I the only person with the HDMI/DP Audio / crossfire issue since the 11.1a driver release and beyond? If not, is AMD taking its customers with crossfire setups seriously? If so, does anyone know how to make the HDMI/DP Audio part of the driver install work?

Don't get me wrong, the video performance is great. But even though I don't use HDMI for my audio, what if I wanted to?
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February 15, 2011 10:48:24 PM

I noticed a 20fps framerate drop in BFBC2??? I'm going to go back to 11.1a to confirm...
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February 15, 2011 11:43:13 PM

Actually, almost a 30fps drop in performance in BFBC2 using 11.2 drivers with 3 GPUs. Framerates in the 60s-80s with the new drivers. No respect for the crossfire.

I went back to 11.1a and I'm back in the 90s-110s on average.

Terrible. I am going to continue to use 11.1a until we see what happens in March.

I'd say if you're using 1 graphics card, ATI/AMD is working to keep you going. If you're using crossfire, they are not. Two months of driver issues is a customer issue.
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February 16, 2011 5:10:35 PM

I've heard it's the best driver for HD 5970.(Some user reported that the 100% GPU usage bug is gone)
Gonna test it and will report back with my results.
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February 16, 2011 6:06:33 PM

Maziar said:
I've heard it's the best driver for HD 5970.(Some user reported that the 100% GPU usage bug is gone)
Gonna test it and will report back with my results.

I've heard the same thing for the 5970.

Also, I'm hoping some other people with multi-card crossfire (not just multi-gpu) setups will post. Ever since 10.12, they've fixed the wake from sleep issue for the crossfire setups, but the fps performance just isn't improving. The introduction of that HDMI/DP Audio issue with 11.1 and after is just an irritant. That's just been my experience. Like I said, though, I'll run on 11.1a for now.
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February 17, 2011 12:17:25 AM

What were the wake from sleep issues?
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February 17, 2011 12:21:07 AM

When the PC would go into sleep mode, you'd hit the space bar and everything would come out of sleep with the exception of the video signal. Again, not something that happened on my single-card configuration.
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February 17, 2011 3:45:16 AM

Waiting for 11.2a hotfix because I am getting ready to Eyeinfinity here real soon. Monitors were ordered tonight.
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February 17, 2011 4:18:36 AM

i've had an increase in 3DMark 11 and a slight increase in 3DMark vantage. Will post results later.
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February 17, 2011 9:40:27 AM

z06psi said:
Waiting for 11.2a hotfix because I am getting ready to Eyeinfinity here real soon. Monitors were ordered tonight.

Ha. Is there really supposed to be a "hotfix" with 11.2 also?
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February 17, 2011 1:42:19 PM

ubercake said:
When the PC would go into sleep mode, you'd hit the space bar and everything would come out of sleep with the exception of the video signal. Again, not something that happened on my single-card configuration.



That's what I thought. Experiencing that exact problem with my 5870 crossfire setup. Was running 10.7, now 11.1 and it just did it again this morning. Glad to know it's at least a known problem.
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February 17, 2011 1:50:06 PM

anoa said:
That's what I thought. Experiencing that exact problem with my 5870 crossfire setup. Was running 10.7, now 11.1 and it just did it again this morning. Glad to know it's at least a known problem.

You got the 11.1 drivers working with your setup? Or 11.1a?

11.1a cured the wake from sleep problem for me (but the HDMI/DP Audio install failure came along with it). You should try 11.1a if you're not using HDMI audio?
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February 17, 2011 2:42:37 PM

Was 11.1, but I just installed 11.1a. I'll see if that works better and no I'm not using HDMI.

One question though. Went to update my app profile to 11.1CAP1, but I am getting a .rar file and not a .exe file when I download it from ATI. How do i install the 11.1CAP1 profile. Do i need a program to decompress the .rar file?
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February 17, 2011 2:53:54 PM

Hey guys...Running 11.2 on a HIS 5970 with Eyefinity enabled across 3 displays @ 5760 x 1200. No problems at all, other than the standard installation errors. I posted a fix for them in this forum a few minutes ago btw.

I see that this driver is supposed to be awesome for the 5970...How so?
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February 17, 2011 2:54:53 PM

That's a new. No more exe files?

It kind of makes sense. It will lessen the load on the web servers.

I guess we'll have to download 7-zip or some other compression/decompression software that handles this file type if we want to install the profiles now.

Why wouldn't they just use .zip or self-extracting files just like the drivers?
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February 17, 2011 4:20:12 PM

Well install was fine but I haven't gamed with it yet. However, I like that I now have access to the new AA feature on my 5850 (morphological).
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February 17, 2011 5:07:11 PM

shockwave-works said:
Hey guys...Running 11.2 on a HIS 5970 with Eyefinity enabled across 3 displays @ 5760 x 1200. No problems at all, other than the standard installation errors. I posted a fix for them in this forum a few minutes ago btw.

I see that this driver is supposed to be awesome for the 5970...How so?

What were your standard installation errors? Did you go from 11.1 or some other version to 11.2?

Also, what is the link to the thread where you posted a fix?
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February 17, 2011 5:31:24 PM

I went from 11.1 to 11.2. The installation errors were the same as I and many others have encountered before: "Errors on Installation", "MSI Service Failure", "Installation Failure". When uninstall is tried the same errors occur. Here is the fix I posted: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/309757-33-catalyst-in...

It has worked on every customer computer I have encountered with this error as well as my own. Hopefully you enjoy the same success.
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February 17, 2011 5:47:14 PM

shockwave-works said:
I went from 11.1 to 11.2. The installation errors were the same as I and many others have encountered before: "Errors on Installation", "MSI Service Failure", "Installation Failure". When uninstall is tried the same errors occur. Here is the fix I posted: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/309757-33-catalyst-in...

It has worked on every customer computer I have encountered with this error as well as my own. Hopefully you enjoy the same success.



I would have thought a complete uninstall + driver sweep was standard procedure? Hmm. Well, works like a charm for me.
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February 17, 2011 5:59:15 PM

Yup...Uninstall + Sweep is standard. On occasion though, Uninstall goes fine but Installation of the next driver hangs up with an error. What I posted is a fix for that situation.
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February 17, 2011 6:15:00 PM

shockwave-works said:
Yup...Uninstall + Sweep is standard. On occasion though, Uninstall goes fine but Installation of the next driver hangs up with an error. What I posted is a fix for that situation.


Ah ok. Well, I guess I'm lucky in not having errors. I've only really had errors when trying to install without the uninstall first lol :sarcastic:  but that was a while ago now.
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February 19, 2011 1:40:25 PM

What version of Drive Sweeper are people using? I had been using 2.1 until I upgraded to a newer version, can't remember which. I was getting an error when I tried to annalyze with the newer version. I was going to reinstall but I discovered this on guru3d.com.

"Driver Sweeper 2.6.0 is released!

LINK temporary removed pending investigation.

Update- until further notice we will only host v2.1 as Marcel decided to add annoying ad-ware installers inside the Driver-Sweeper setup, which we are strongly against / oppose to.

Will be on Guru3D as soon as possible, already emailed Hilbert about it"
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February 19, 2011 1:54:06 PM

Installed 11.2 over my 10.12 beta drivers. Nothing wrong, everything good.
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February 20, 2011 1:08:48 AM

I've installed 11.2 twice now, upgrading from 10.12 one, and naturally from 11.1a twice. I've experienced a major FPS decrease in WoW, SC2, and Medal of Honor.. I've also experienced problems with the HDMI sound. All times I did a safe boot driver sweep, along with a clean installation of all ATI software and drivers. 11.2 is a no-go for me, and I'm running a Diamond 5870 @ 1GB GDDR5 native clocks.
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February 20, 2011 2:12:41 AM

Installed 11.2 over 11.1a and noticed that my second GPU wasn't being tasked at all. Disabled X-fire and re-enabled it with a reboot and all is well.
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February 21, 2011 6:32:07 PM

z06psi said:
Installed 11.2 over 11.1a and noticed that my second GPU wasn't being tasked at all. Disabled X-fire and re-enabled it with a reboot and all is well.

I'm going to try this disable/re-enable trick tonight. When I tried 11.2 initially, the framerates seemed like I lost one of my cards. I'll try this and see if it works. Anyone know if there's an 11.2a out there yet? ;) 
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February 21, 2011 7:52:55 PM

I am using MSI afterburner to monitor my cards and I noticed one was not being tasked. After this little trick all is well.

11.2 are actually some decent drivers now if AMD would get off of their ass and create some PLP support.
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February 22, 2011 12:05:04 AM

z06psi said:
I am using MSI afterburner to monitor my cards and I noticed one was not being tasked. After this little trick all is well.

11.2 are actually some decent drivers now if AMD would get off of their ass and create some PLP support.

OK. Using the trick, here are my observations:

1) I still have the HDMI/DP Audio install failure. :??: 
2) My framerates did stay the same rather than get a lot worse. :) 
3) New problem has arisen after a session of MOH... Observing each card in GPUz...While GPU1 acts normally with minimal activity in Windows, GPU2 is pegged at 100%GPU activity(???), and GPU3 goes idle (as expected). :o 

GPU2 is still showing 100% activity in GPUz. So I guess now I have the CPU@100% issue that others have mentioned.

Images following play:
GPU1 ("blips" of activity)-

GPU2 (pegged at 100% usage)-

GPU3 (idle as expected) -


I had just finished playing when I took the images. Framerates on MOH right around 140 average. Even now, GPU-z is showing GPU2 at 100% load. The fan is spinning 2krpm+. Nuts.

I'm going to switch back to 11.1a. At least February's a short month and we should expect March 11.3 to be better? :whistle: 
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February 22, 2011 12:50:52 AM

GPU2 after a session of MOH on 11.1a drivers:



GPU2 gears down afterward. Back to "normal".
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February 22, 2011 1:24:33 AM

Yes that is what mine does. It throttles down immediately after the game is hut down. MSI afterburner is better than that as it shows a longer trend.
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February 22, 2011 1:52:52 AM

You can have GPU-Z log to file and then graph the result for a really long plot.
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February 22, 2011 2:21:36 AM

Same d3d.driver as 11.1a.
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February 22, 2011 6:19:24 AM

I had to revert back to 10.5 drivers for my crossfire setup to see true FPS.

I did install 11.12 and my frames still down. Should i disable Xfire then Enable it ?
while on the new drivers?...will that work
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February 22, 2011 8:32:26 AM

17seconds said:
Same d3d.driver as 11.1a.

So, if that's the case are you saying GPU2 should behave the same way for 11.2 as it does for 11.1a?
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February 22, 2011 7:16:55 PM

Haven't upgraded to 11.2 on my single 6870 but it ran just fine on the previous driver...

However, I am more or less trying to figure this little issue out.....Can someone please advise on if the 11.2 drivers are good for 6870 crossfire?? (I Just got a second 6870 today and so its time to re-do the drivers). I see mixed opinions on this thread so can someone clarify, what is the best current driver for 6870 (or any) crossfire setup, whether it is 11.X or 10.X it does not matter, whatever is best, just let me know what is the most stable please... I realize there might not be one straightforward answer depending on different configurations but if someone could establish some basics facts towards that predicament, that would be fantastic.

also can anyone advise on what program to use to clean the drivers completely out prior to re-installation.... ?

I've tried driver sweeper and it seems to work like crap...
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February 23, 2011 12:56:18 AM

jjb8675309 said:
Haven't upgraded to 11.2 on my single 6870 but it ran just fine on the previous driver...

However, I am more or less trying to figure this little issue out.....Can someone please advise on if the 11.2 drivers are good for 6870 crossfire?? (I Just got a second 6870 today and so its time to re-do the drivers). I see mixed opinions on this thread so can someone clarify, what is the best current driver for 6870 (or any) crossfire setup, whether it is 11.X or 10.X it does not matter, whatever is best, just let me know what is the most stable please... I realize there might not be one straightforward answer depending on different configurations but if someone could establish some basics facts towards that predicament, that would be fantastic.

also can anyone advise on what program to use to clean the drivers completely out prior to re-installation.... ?

I've tried driver sweeper and it seems to work like crap...

I've never used anything but driver sweeper. It seemed to work OK for me.

The 11.1a drivers are the ones to try if you don't like the performance you get from 11.2. You can try 11.2 and if you find issues with it, just do the express uninstall, reboot, driver sweeper, reboot, re-install procedure and you can try 11.1a.

I've done it many times over the last few weeks to compare framerates and performance, in general, with my 3 5850s.

Sadly, I must say I've given up on the AMD driver drama (the 5850s are great though!), pulled out the 5850s, and installed a GTX 580.
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February 24, 2011 12:28:56 AM

Which version of drive sweeper are you running? On Guru3d page they are only offering version 2.1, but i have found up to 2.8.5

Up till a month ago i was using the 10.7 drivers. I've updated, but it still shows 10.7 as the catalyst version, but 8.82.2 as the Driver Packaging Version, which is 11.1a.

Just wondering if drive sweeper is not finding all the ATI files.

One other thing, i'm still experiencing the wake from sleep "freeze" and I am running 11.1a with two 5870s
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February 24, 2011 1:33:04 AM

anoa said:
Which version of drive sweeper are you running? On Guru3d page they are only offering version 2.1, but i have found up to 2.8.5

Up till a month ago i was using the 10.7 drivers. I've updated, but it still shows 10.7 as the catalyst version, but 8.82.2 as the Driver Packaging Version, which is 11.1a.

Just wondering if drive sweeper is not finding all the ATI files.

One other thing, i'm still experiencing the wake from sleep "freeze" and I am running 11.1a with two 5870s

I use driver sweeper version 2.8.5. To tell you the truth, I only had to do the 'express uninstall' prior to version 11.1.

Since the drivers never seemed to fully install (video was fine/ HDMI/DP audio failed), I started using this additional Driver Sweeper step because of what was suggested in the AMD forums. Since 11.1 (completely failed to install on my setup), and 11.1a, I used the driver sweeper step with the 5850s and wondered why AMD didn't just start bundling this with their driver updates.

After my recent experience with the 11.x drivers, I tend to this if the new driver doesn't install after the uninstall with 'express uninstall' through the catalyst installation manager, the latest and greatest driver still has issues. That wake from sleep issue cleared up for me with 11.1a (maybe because I had 3 cards? Who knows?).

That's strange regarding the catalyst version though.

Again, great video cards can't stay great if the driver team doesn't maintain and update the drivers for its customers. The driver drama alone is why I retired my 5850s yesterday. They are great cards, but if we as customers aren't getting support from the driver team, as far as I'm concerned, it's no longer worth the hassle. Maybe I'm just too old and crotchety?
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February 24, 2011 1:56:20 PM

I think it must be the drivers, because I haven't had this happen in a looong time, but when I try overclocking my cards (to run a Vantage score for comparison at my highest clocks) it locks up and crashes my PC. Only when I set the OC on the 2nd card tho, the first one is fine. I remember something like this happened a long time ago, but I'm definitely thinking I'd like to go back to maybe 10.10 or so which seemed like pretty good drivers.
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February 25, 2011 2:40:07 PM

I installed 11.2.So far it's OK(though I really miss the Catalyst AI option which you could turn off CF in cards like 4870X2/5970),will report back if I ran in to problems
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February 25, 2011 2:46:16 PM

11.2 seems fine but also it feels like its bring a few less frames in certain games then the 11.1a did for my 6870 crossfire setup
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February 25, 2011 3:32:07 PM

Maziar said:
I installed 11.2.So far it's OK(though I really miss the Catalyst AI option which you could turn off CF in cards like 4870X2/5970),will report back if I ran in to problems

Just curious... Why did you like turning off the AI?
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February 25, 2011 7:29:36 PM

Well, I remember some games used to run better with only a single card, though I don't know if that is what he is referring to (perhaps just for testing).
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February 26, 2011 5:04:00 AM

Right^
Some games(like PES 2011), give me graphic glitches with CF enabled.Disabling it takes care of this problem.
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February 26, 2011 5:57:28 AM

Don't know if this will help with those running 64bit systems, but with 11.2 in both XP 32 and Vista 32bit I had to install the normal "Catalyst Software suite" then install "Catalyst Software Suite with APP removed (32bit) English Only" to get CF working properly on my 5970.
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February 26, 2011 12:30:38 PM

Rolled back to 10.10(again). It's been 4 months since I revert back to 10.10 because of 3 main reasons
1)No way to disable Catalyst AI
2)99% GPU usage even in 2D mode
3)In 11.2, my 2D speeds are 400/1000(which should be 157/300) resulting in higher idle temps.
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February 26, 2011 1:06:41 PM

That is strange - granted my system is a single card and a old one (4850), but with 11.2, I can still disable Cat AI with a checkbox next to the slider. I'll try to check my 5850 later.
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