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April 24, 2011 12:24:01 AM

Thanks for checking out this thread, I'm just looking for some advice for my first build here. Everything I've got listed below comes out to 580$ but I'm sure you guys can find some small upgrades. Here it goes:

Approximate Purchase Date: Very soon, within the week


Budget Range: $600-$650 after rebates


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, inkscape, gimp, dreamweaver, flash, word, surfing, media.


Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: probably newegg, would like to make one single order


Country of Origin: USA


Parts Preferences: Whatever is a good value


Overclocking: Possibly in the future but I don't really do much to warrant it


SLI or Crossfire: I don't plan on it


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200 I think


Additional Comments: I'm not really a performance junky at all, I just want the option to play games for a few years.


Parts
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Cpu and Mobo combo 140$
AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ADX640WFGMBOX

BIOSTAR N68S3+ AM3 NVIDIA MCP68S Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Gpu 140$. This or a 6850?

SAPPHIRE 100282XTREME Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Memory 40$

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9D-4GBNT

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case 100$. I know this is expensive for this build but I really like the looks of it

COOLER MASTER HAF 922 BLUE RC-922M-KWN2-GP Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Side window
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


hdd 65$

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

dvd drive 20$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

psu 40$
RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-530SS 530W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular LED Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

wireless adapter 35$. I won't use it primarily but I really need this option


Rosewill RNX-N300X IEEE 802.11b/g, IEEE 802.11n Draft 2.0 PCI Wireless Adapter (2T3R) Up to 300Mbps Wireless Download Data Rates 64/128-Bit
WEP, WPA PSK and WPA2 PSK (TKIP and AES) Vista/Win7

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Alright let me know what you guys think and if I should sub in anything or if I messed up massively thanks.
April 24, 2011 1:51:23 AM

Not the worst build ever but not a very good PSU and the cpu/mobo combo is kinda meh and pretty pricey case but a good one. If you are willing to spend the upper portion of your budget you will have a much better system. Here's what I slapped together keeping your wireless adapter and GPU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... ASUS LGA 1155 Intel H61 & i5-2400 combo $250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 $50 after promo code EMCKFHH48
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... XIGMATEK 500W $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... HITACHI Deskstar 1TB $55 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Spinpoint F3 500GB $50 (didnt know if you had to have 1TB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... COOLER MASTER Elite 430 $50

With the wireless adapter DVD/CD drive and HD 5850 you should be just over $650 before rebates.

Here are a few other cases: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|11-129-079^11-129-079-TS%2C11-119-233^11-119-233-TS%2C11-129-042^11-129-042-TS%2C11-147-153^11-147-153-TS%2C11-119-227^11-119-227-TS

And the 5850 is one of the better deals currently, the next step up would be something like one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|14-121-391^14-121-391-TS%2C14-161-349^14-161-349-TS%2C14-125-333^14-125-333-TS


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April 24, 2011 3:36:20 AM

Okk thank you for the reply. I switched in the ram, hdd and psu you recommended. It would be an extra 110$ to go with the sandy bridge combo, would it definitely be worth it to spend another 110$ on the cpu rather than something like the gpu, hd 6950 maybe? Would the sandy bridge blow the amd 640 out of the water?
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April 24, 2011 3:59:12 AM

You can find stuff on sale if you want.

I spent 650ish and got
elite430
Ocz stealthxseam II 600w - rated well on hardware secrets
965 phenom II quad core
His 5850
Vertex 30gb
Hyper212 cooler
Gskill2x2gb
$50 hd322gj
ASus m4a77td
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April 24, 2011 4:47:38 AM

matt12345 said:
Okk thank you for the reply. I switched in the ram, hdd and psu you recommended. It would be an extra 110$ to go with the sandy bridge combo, would it definitely be worth it to spend another 110$ on the cpu rather than something like the gpu, hd 6950 maybe? Would the sandy bridge blow the amd 640 out of the water?


When it comes to gaming the GPU limits you more often than the CPU. The new sandy bridge CPU's really blow the socks off of all the current AMD CPU's: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i...

If you switched from the Spinpoint F3 1TB to the HITACHI Deskstar the spinpoint is a better drive. Some other brands of PSU's to look at are Antec, Corsair and Seasonic(top 3) and also OCZ and XFX can be decent choices.

For strictly gaming you more than likely would be better off dumping the extra money into the GPU, the sandy bridge gives you the option to step up to better processors, you might be better of even dropping down to a i3-2100 for now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... This mobo has sata3 and usb3 and the option to crossfire/sli (only @ x4 for the 2nd slot tho)
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April 24, 2011 5:00:51 AM

What types of games were you looking to play? And if your looking to keep your budget down stay with amd just get a better combo you won't notice a huge difference between the two.
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April 24, 2011 5:54:05 AM

  • LITE-ON DVD Writer - Bulk - Black SATA Model iHAS224-06 LightScribe Support - OEM
  • COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
  • SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
  • SAPPHIRE 100282XTREME Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ...
  • Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
  • G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS
  • Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400
  • ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
    TOTAL: $644.94 Shipping Included. Before MIR.

    Although no sata3 and usb3, that'll cost $20 more.



  • LITE-ON DVD Writer - Bulk - Black SATA Model iHAS224-06 LightScribe Support - OEM
  • COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
  • SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
  • SAPPHIRE 100282XTREME Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ...
  • Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
  • G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS
  • AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ADX640WFGMBOX
  • MSI 870A-G54 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
    TOTAL: $572.76 Shipping Included. Before MIR.

    Only thing changed was cpu+mobo. You could change to a x4 955 to match the price of the sb build.
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    April 25, 2011 1:39:43 AM

    I'm looking to mostly play sc 2, maybe wow multiboxing and probably some fps like cs source. Here is the final build im thinking of going with. It is a little above my budget but I really need that case, comes out to 680$. Let me know if going with that psu is really a bad idea. I definitely think spending the extra on the sb instead of gpu is worth it because the 5850 is such a good deal and my next upgrade in a couple years will be a video card. Also, what would having no sata3 on the mobo prevent me from doing?

    LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Writer - Bulk - LightScribe Support - OEM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    COOLER MASTER HAF 922 BLUE RC-922M-KWN2-GP Black ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Side window

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    SAPPHIRE 100282XTREME Radeon HD 5850 Xtreme 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    XIGMATEK ACXTNRP-PC502 500W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400
    ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

    Rosewill RNX-N300X IEEE 802.11b/g, IEEE 802.11n Draft 2.0 PCI Wireless Adapter (2T3R) Up to 300Mbps Wireless Download Data Rates 64/128-Bit WEP, WPA PSK and WPA2 PSK (TKIP and AES) Vista/Win7

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



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    April 25, 2011 2:27:12 AM

    You cant change speed on a h61 so it would still be 1333 and timing difference in games is unnoticeable.
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    April 25, 2011 5:42:13 PM

    Ok thank you very much guys, I'm placing the order tonight. Its gonna be a sick build.
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    April 25, 2011 9:53:14 PM

    k1114 said:
    You cant change speed on a h61 so it would still be 1333 and timing difference in games is unnoticeable.


    Dang there isn't even a memory option on the h61 bios that would let you run the memory at 1600? I haven't used a h61/67 board yet but figured they would at least have a DRAM frequency option.

    Edit: Duh looked at the boards manual and saw there was no 1600 option which if I would of looked at the details in newegg I would of saw 1333/1066 memory standard.. durp!
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    May 3, 2011 2:37:30 PM

    FSB overclocking perhaps? Assuming your CPU can OC. Like i3-2100 cannot.
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    May 3, 2011 4:17:27 PM

    I ordered everything late last week, should be coming in today or tomorrow. I'm very excited.
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    May 13, 2011 2:33:57 AM

    Best answer selected by Matt12345.
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