GTS450 vs 5770
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edgaraslt
February 17, 2011 7:07:20 PM
Which one should I get? These are at the same price range here. ~172$. I know it's a awful price to pay, but I don't have any possibilities to buy it cheaper. And also gtx460 is too expensive.
My build:
MB AMD 870/SB850 SAM3 ATX/GA-870A-UD3 GIGA-BYTE
InWin EAR009 MD Tower Black/Silver ATX USB2.0/Audio/AirDuct/11Drive Bays w/o PSU
DVD-/+R/RW-RAM12X24X SATA OEM/BLACK AD-7260S-0B OPTIARC
CHIEFTEC PSU 500W ATX2.3 80+ BULK
Western Digital WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200rpm 16MB SATA 6.0 GB/s
CPU Desktop Phenom II X4 955 (3.2GHz,8MB,125W,AM3) box Black Edition
Crucial Rendition 2GB DDR3 1333 DIMM CL9 240-PIN 256Mx64 PC3-10600 (Bulk)
I'd go straight to 5770 but it's a matter of physx. I need a card which could run games with physx on properly.
My build:
MB AMD 870/SB850 SAM3 ATX/GA-870A-UD3 GIGA-BYTE
InWin EAR009 MD Tower Black/Silver ATX USB2.0/Audio/AirDuct/11Drive Bays w/o PSU
DVD-/+R/RW-RAM12X24X SATA OEM/BLACK AD-7260S-0B OPTIARC
CHIEFTEC PSU 500W ATX2.3 80+ BULK
Western Digital WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200rpm 16MB SATA 6.0 GB/s
CPU Desktop Phenom II X4 955 (3.2GHz,8MB,125W,AM3) box Black Edition
Crucial Rendition 2GB DDR3 1333 DIMM CL9 240-PIN 256Mx64 PC3-10600 (Bulk)
I'd go straight to 5770 but it's a matter of physx. I need a card which could run games with physx on properly.
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edgaraslt
February 17, 2011 7:16:14 PM
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minitron815
February 17, 2011 7:47:03 PM
edgaraslt
February 17, 2011 7:58:58 PM
minitron815
February 17, 2011 8:04:31 PM
Sorry I don't know the conversion rates so I don't know about the price/value of them.
I'd go with the cheaper motherboard since the more expensive one has an extra PCIe x16 slot running at x4 which is useless.
Like I said I don't know the conversion rates or the difference between that HD 5770 and GTX 460.
I'd go with the cheaper motherboard since the more expensive one has an extra PCIe x16 slot running at x4 which is useless.
Like I said I don't know the conversion rates or the difference between that HD 5770 and GTX 460.
edgaraslt
February 17, 2011 8:06:05 PM
1$ = 2,5LT.
I'm interested in better mb not only because of second pcie which as I know is x4. But because it has sata3 and is capable to run x6 phenom
These are my options if I go for cheaper MB:
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/MSI/MSI_GTX460CYCLONE_PCIE_768MB_2/N460GTX_CYC_768D5/OC/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=353022
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/Asus/Asus_ENGTX460_DIRECTCU_TOP/2DI/ENGTX460_DIRECTCU_TOP/2DI/768M/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=354415
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/MSI/VGA_1GB_GDDR5_PCIE16_GTX460SE//N460GTX-SECY1GD5/OC/MD/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=369457
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/Gigabyte/VGA_1GB_GDDR5_PCIE16_GTX460SE//GV-N460SE-1GI/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=365782
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/Sparkle/VGA_1GB_GDDR5_PCIE16_GTX460/SX/SXX4601024D5SNM/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=352275
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/Asus/ASUS_GF_GTX460_DIRECTCU_TOP_PC/ENGTX460_DCT/2DI/768/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=353099
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/MSI/VGA_1GB_GDDR5_PCIE16_GTX465/N4/N465GTXTWINFROZRII/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=366091
So as I'm in very limited budget I have CHIEFTEC PSU 500W ATX2.3 80+ BULK. Is it enough to gtx460?
I'm interested in better mb not only because of second pcie which as I know is x4. But because it has sata3 and is capable to run x6 phenom
These are my options if I go for cheaper MB:
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/MSI/MSI_GTX460CYCLONE_PCIE_768MB_2/N460GTX_CYC_768D5/OC/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=353022
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/Asus/Asus_ENGTX460_DIRECTCU_TOP/2DI/ENGTX460_DIRECTCU_TOP/2DI/768M/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=354415
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/MSI/VGA_1GB_GDDR5_PCIE16_GTX460SE//N460GTX-SECY1GD5/OC/MD/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=369457
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/Gigabyte/VGA_1GB_GDDR5_PCIE16_GTX460SE//GV-N460SE-1GI/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=365782
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/Sparkle/VGA_1GB_GDDR5_PCIE16_GTX460/SX/SXX4601024D5SNM/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=352275
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/Asus/ASUS_GF_GTX460_DIRECTCU_TOP_PC/ENGTX460_DCT/2DI/768/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=353099
http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/MSI/VGA_1GB_GDDR5_PCIE16_GTX465/N4/N465GTXTWINFROZRII/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=366091
So as I'm in very limited budget I have CHIEFTEC PSU 500W ATX2.3 80+ BULK. Is it enough to gtx460?
minitron815
February 17, 2011 8:42:51 PM
Any AM3 motherboard will accept the X6s. You will only see the difference between SATA II and SATA III in SSDs. That Western Digitial Hard Drive cannot do 600 mb/s (SATA III maximum transfer rate). The maximum limit of sustained transfer for mechanical hard drives is 157 mb/s; slightly above SATA 1.5.
Your PSU supposedly has >400W over the 12V rails and should be able to power the GTX 460.
Your PSU supposedly has >400W over the 12V rails and should be able to power the GTX 460.
edgaraslt
February 17, 2011 9:00:33 PM
minitron815
February 17, 2011 10:03:53 PM
I would get the GTX 460 768mb over the 1gb SE. PhysX can be turned on with the 460 with playable frame rates. You can max out some games such as BFBC2 but not Mafia II (though I think BFBC2 is much more impressive graphically).
I don't believe a GTX 460 SE 768mb exists.
Like I said in the previous post you will not see the difference between those motherboards without a SSD.
I don't believe a GTX 460 SE 768mb exists.
Like I said in the previous post you will not see the difference between those motherboards without a SSD.
edgaraslt
February 17, 2011 10:12:34 PM
Ok, You helped me a lot.
So I came up with these two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and any other 768mb version. Other non SE versions is too expensive.
Dunno why this gtx460 1gb is so cheap. So which should I choose. I know, I'm asking too much. As the 768 is cheaper by 15-20$ is it worth more?Is there big difference between GTX460 1gb and 768mb?
So I came up with these two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and any other 768mb version. Other non SE versions is too expensive.
Dunno why this gtx460 1gb is so cheap. So which should I choose. I know, I'm asking too much. As the 768 is cheaper by 15-20$ is it worth more?Is there big difference between GTX460 1gb and 768mb?
minitron815
February 17, 2011 10:19:36 PM
edgaraslt
February 18, 2011 8:11:31 AM
minitron815 said:
Any AM3 motherboard will accept the X6s. You will only see the difference between SATA II and SATA III in SSDs. That Western Digitial Hard Drive cannot do 600 mb/s (SATA III maximum transfer rate). The maximum limit of sustained transfer for mechanical hard drives is 157 mb/s; slightly above SATA 1.5.Your PSU supposedly has >400W over the 12V rails and should be able to power the GTX 460.
So this information about WD hdd is wrong ? http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=110
edgaraslt
February 18, 2011 10:28:19 AM
edgaraslt
February 18, 2011 10:47:06 AM
minitron815
February 18, 2011 1:31:46 PM
edgaraslt
February 18, 2011 1:59:41 PM
edgaraslt
February 19, 2011 7:31:09 AM
If its the regular 1GB and not the SE version then yes, the 1GB model is better. The 768MB version has more stuff turned off. It has 8 less ROPs, a narrower memory bus at 192bits wide instead of 256bits, and the L2 cache on the chip is smaller as well. Even though the companies might not be as known as Asus, the 768MB card is a more cut down card, so the scores will be lower.
edgaraslt
February 19, 2011 8:11:21 AM
Yea i know the specs. but in real life to a budget build which is better. For a same price, I dont care bout benchs but for playin popular games mafia2,just cause2 all nfs series, gta, fifa and so on.
There are asus gtx460 768mb and sparkle,club3d. In games is it really worth buying cheap 1gb? It wont burn if I'll play games at high for a 4-6hrs?
What about new games,like shift2. Is there any possibility that it may req 1gb video ram?
I'm asking bout everyday gaming performance,not bout specs and benches
because gtx465 performs better than gtx460 768mb,but in cost of heat and power. So what about those asus768mb or club3d/sparkle 1gb?
There are asus gtx460 768mb and sparkle,club3d. In games is it really worth buying cheap 1gb? It wont burn if I'll play games at high for a 4-6hrs?
What about new games,like shift2. Is there any possibility that it may req 1gb video ram?
I'm asking bout everyday gaming performance,not bout specs and benches
because gtx465 performs better than gtx460 768mb,but in cost of heat and power. So what about those asus768mb or club3d/sparkle 1gb?
It will depend on the resolution. 768MB isn't a horrible number, but some games at 1680x1050 will have issues. If your gaming on your 720P LCD however you'd be fine with it. If you can afford the 1GB non SE edition I'd get it. If however you'll have to sacrifice other things to get it, don't. The 768MB version isn't that bad, and still quite powerful.
edgaraslt
February 19, 2011 9:59:48 AM
you see, those gtx460 which i've mentioned ISN'T SE, it's just cheap manufacturer cards. Sparkle and club3d.
Here u r http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/Sparkle/VGA_1GB_GDDR5_PCIE16_GTX460/SX/SXX4601024D5SNM/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=352275
It's not SE,or is it?
Here u r http://www.fortakas.lt/Vaizdo_plokstes_(VGA)/Sparkle/VGA_1GB_GDDR5_PCIE16_GTX460/SX/SXX4601024D5SNM/CatalogStoreDetail.aspx?CatID=PL_233&ID=352275
It's not SE,or is it?
edgaraslt
February 19, 2011 10:24:12 AM
I didn't get what u mean? U say that sparkle will die after 1-2years? But if I'll get 4-5 year warranty then I should buy it?
Or u said that even if it will die after 4 years it wont be a big loss because in that time that vga will become useless in gaming?
http://www.sparkle.com.tw/product_detail.asp?id=111&sub... looks nice to me
Or u said that even if it will die after 4 years it wont be a big loss because in that time that vga will become useless in gaming?
http://www.sparkle.com.tw/product_detail.asp?id=111&sub... looks nice to me
edgaraslt
February 19, 2011 11:02:18 AM
Probably better cooling or just a design thing. If you want performance buy a 1gb version, if you want cheaper buy a 768mb version. Write on Google the name of the card and add review near it and click search. Even more check on newegg.com because they might have it there and lots of people write reviews there.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
edgaraslt
February 19, 2011 2:34:41 PM
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