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$2000-$2500 Render Gaming Rig NEED ASAP!

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April 24, 2011 10:16:25 PM

Okay I can't handle it anymore! Keep getting memory issues on my 4 year old comp. I lose a good 5-10 minutes every hour due to having to restart After Effects or restart the comp to refresh the ram. UGH!!!!
I need something that's fast!

I am asking for help from the tech community to help me piece this monster together because I have zero time to research all the pieces as I work freelance and am even workign a solid 15 hours on EASTER! OMG! Please help!

For my computer I need
-Loads of ram 8gig ok 16gig awesome (low cache? cant remember, but need for rendering faster, RAM Preview)
-CPU possibly intel 2600k or a faster chip? Obv the 2600k is best bang for buck, but maybe I can get something even faster for a few extra Benjamin's? (Xeon?)
-Fast primary drive, SSD? minimum 150gig size.
-Secondary drive 1Tera minimum 7200rpm ok.
-GPU - prefer Nvidia, need top of line
-Case able to fit a GPU + CPU Watercooling system (WC is a must! Ive gone to long without building one, IM NOT SCARED ANYMORE! =D)
-OS Windows 7 preferably (LOVE XP 32bit, would be willing to go with XP 64bit, but unsure how stable it is with hardware, drivers, software)

For my accessories I need
-New headset, mic (preferable one with great comfortablility and an awesome Mic)
-New surround sound speakers (logitech is fine)
-New monitor, 1080p anything 23+ inches. 27 would be stellar!


PS sorry for the typos! Im stressed the hell out.
Whoever I deem most helpful in the creation of this rig will get a avatar logo creation from me for their Forum avatar or Steam account or whatever. See my portfolio. http://www.cikeller.com
THANKS AGAIN FOR ANY HELP! 8D
April 24, 2011 11:26:38 PM

quick question: would you benefit using 2 or 3 monitors instead of 1?
and will you use this machine for games?
And i potentially see your memory problem If you have 32 bit XP and have more than 4 gigs of ram. 32 bit xp can only use 3.5 gigs of ram while 64 bit can use up to 192gb or something only servers need
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April 24, 2011 11:38:11 PM

attackllama said:
quick question: would you benefit using 2 or 3 monitors instead of 1?
and will you use this machine for games?


Hi mr llama!

Okay I really doubt I will need duel monitors at the moment. I want the card to have the ability to have that addition later down the road.

Gaming is a must! I want to be able to handle Crysis 2. Battlefield. Brink. etc. etc.

When im not working im gaming.
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April 24, 2011 11:41:57 PM

ok! I edited my first post lol and i will make a list in newegg in a bit
also do you already have water cooling components or are you doing that later
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April 24, 2011 11:45:33 PM

attackllama said:
ok! I edited my first post lol and i will make a list in newegg in a bit
also do you already have water cooling components or are you doing that later

llama, I dont have any WC parts yet. Will need those too! Please read my new edits at the bottom of the original post! THANKS!
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April 25, 2011 12:18:05 AM

attackllama said:
hmm well that makes things a bit more complicated... this kit should be great. http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12368/ex-wat-164/Ek_H...
just that and a hydro copper gtx 580
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
with all the accessories and parts so far i think it might go over 2500$


aw ok, which part makes it more complicated?

If the processor and card are whats breaking the bank I can stick with the 2600k and go with a medium to high performance gpu.

What are you totaling out at now?

Cant see the wishlist. Even when logged in. :( 
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April 25, 2011 12:36:36 AM

water cooling adds ~$400 (279$ for the kit, ~$100 more for a gtx 580 with a water block)
A monitor will be ~$200 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)
windows is $140 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)
speakers and a headset will probably be ~$100
updated wish list:
so that list + the WC kit i linked earlier and i think you should choose the headset and speakers those come more down to personal preference
total should be around $3000
edit: bad link
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April 25, 2011 12:41:29 AM

Still cant see the wish list :/ 
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April 25, 2011 12:43:50 AM

lol newegg is being difficult gimmie a second
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April 25, 2011 12:53:16 AM

there we go :p 
whoops windows 7 is supposed to be 64 bit :) 
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April 25, 2011 1:07:19 AM




Damn that's sexy. With the WC it would cost around 3k, 500 over budget. I think this is doable.

Maybe knock the card to a 400 price range? I don't necessarily need the priciest GPU (or do you strongly recommend the 580?)

Kind of want a 27inch now. Bigger screen is better for my editing.
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April 25, 2011 1:12:56 AM

No need for water cooling with these Sandy Bridge cpu's. They hit a "ceiling/wall" well before they come close to their max temp limits when it comes to over clocking these bad boys.

This build includes dual factory over clocked gtx 560's in SLI, 2600K, Windows Professional, 16 gigs of low voltage 1866mhz RAM, modular silver rated 750w psu (made by Seasonic for XFX), SATA III 128GB SSD, top rated after market cpu h/s (thermal compound included), etc...

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Advanced-Tower-Supe... $154.82 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced Full Tower Case with SuperSpeed USB 3.0 - (RC-932-KKN5-GP)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $129.99 - $109.99 after mail-in rebate
XFX Black Edition P1-750B-CAG9 750W ATX12V v2.2 / ESP12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $294.98
GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD4-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $124.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9D-8GBSR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $554.98 $20.00 Mail-In Rebate Price After Mail-In Rebate(s): $534.98 FREE SHIPPING
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $249.99 (Before $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) FREE SHIPPING
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $59.99
COOLER MASTER V6 GT RR-V6GT-22PK-R1 120mm DynaLoop CPU Cooler w/ Universal bracket & Dual Fan

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $199.99 FREE SHIPPING
Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001U3S5S0/ref=s9_simh... $60.85 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung 1 TB Spinpoint 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.5 inch Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive HD103SJ

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $23.99 FREE SHIPPING
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA CD/DVD Burner - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $314.98 FREE SHIPPING
Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit 1-Pack - OEM

Total: $2,165.95 *not including shipping, rebates, etc...

http://www.frys.com/product/6417522?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN... $399.99
BEN Q XL2410T 23.6" LED Backlit Monitor (NVIDIA 3D Ready)

http://www.benq.us/products/product_detail.cfm?product=... <---- more info, specs, and pics on that monitor

http://apcmag.com/first-look-the-benq-xl2410t-.htm <--- review on that monitor

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-002232-Gaming-Keyboa... $61.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Logitech Gaming Keyboard G110

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/device... <---- more info, specs, and pics of that keyboard

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002J9GDXI/ref=ox_sc_a... $54.59 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Logitech G500 Programmable Gaming Mouse

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/mice/device... <---- more info, specs, and pics of that mouse

http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PC-350-Collapsible-Mic... $179.95
Sennheiser PC 350 Collapsible Gaming Headset with Vol Control & Microphone Mute

http://www.sennheiserusa.com/noise-cancelling-headset-c... <----- more info, specs, and pics of that headset

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-THX-Certified-Speaker-Sy... $107.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Logitech THX-Certified Speaker System Z623

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speakers-audio/home-pc-sp... <---- more info, pics, and tech specs of those speakers

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?category_id... <--- more info and specs on that CM HAF case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <--- Same case @ newegg

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-n560gtx-ti-twin-froze... <---- Review/benchmarks of that vid card

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_gtx560_twin... <--- more benchmarks

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/02/21/msi_n560gtx_t... <--- that card in SLI

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-560-ti-sli-re... <--- gtx 560's in SLI @ stock settings, not over clocked like that MSI 560 in the build
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April 25, 2011 1:37:29 AM

good suggestions by why_me
he is right a 560 is actually a better choice for the price. You will just need to buy water blocks which should be about $100 each. I had on the 580 because you said top of the line and the waterblock it comes with is a good deal
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April 25, 2011 2:57:29 AM

Not understanding the 2 sets of ram you have. From my understanding I choose with set and go with a 16gb or mixing, which is not a good idea.

That 2600k + the 560 is a decent package.

Llama his setup is cheaper.

You have 1k Power sup and his is 750. Maybe 750 would be enough.

Also the SSD he found is like 2/3rd cheaper for like 30g less. i know I said 150 minimum, but it seems more practical, financially.

I want to do WC for sure. Its not so much as a performance reason, but the fact that i've built 4 systems and all have been air. I need to move on to the next stage.

WC would just be a great project to achieve for me.

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April 25, 2011 3:38:51 AM

looks like he put 2 of the same set to get a combo on one. i put 1000w for the 580s, for if you wanted to add another
i picked the SSD for its high read and write speeds, but that one is definitely a much better deal.
Good luck and have fun building!
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April 25, 2011 3:50:17 AM

attackllama said:
looks like he put 2 of the same set to get a combo on one. i put 1000w for the 580s, for if you wanted to add another
i picked the SSD for its high read and write speeds, but that one is definitely a much better deal.
Good luck and have fun building!

aww good catch.

Would that WC kit work aside from getting the corrept block for the 560 work?
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April 25, 2011 4:44:26 AM

dankcik09 said:
Not understanding the 2 sets of ram you have. From my understanding I choose with set and go with a 16gb or mixing, which is not a good idea.

That 2600k + the 560 is a decent package.

Llama his setup is cheaper.

You have 1k Power sup and his is 750. Maybe 750 would be enough.

Also the SSD he found is like 2/3rd cheaper for like 30g less. i know I said 150 minimum, but it seems more practical, financially.

I want to do WC for sure. Its not so much as a performance reason, but the fact that i've built 4 systems and all have been air. I need to move on to the next stage.

WC would just be a great project to achieve for me.

Water cooling isn't the next stage anymore. It's 2011 and it's called technology. If you google "Sandy Bridge cpu review" and read the reviews you will see that these cpu's run cool...like they were designed to. The even newer Intel 22nm Ivy Bridge cpu's due out early next year will run even cooler than these cpu's. Again it's technology and it's what it's suppose to be. Which means water cooling is a thing of the past...and good deal for that. W/C was costly, and a major pain in the arse. So unless you want to learn something that's sure to die out soon, then no need to learn W/C.

On a good note, with a simple bios flash these 1155 boards will run those newer 22nm Ivy Bridge cpu's due out next year. Rumor has it those chips will o/c near or @ 6.0ghz. Not a real surprise on that though seeing how these Sandy Bridge cpu's o/c past 5.0ghz on simple air cooling. These cpu's will hit a "ceiling" well before they come close to hitting their max temps in regards to o/c.

Now here's one more thing to know about these 1155 mobo's. RAM timings mean zero in regards to over clocking with these boards. The cpu multiplier is isolated which means the days of moving up the FSB after loosing the RAM timings are over with hence the reason CAS9 RAM is selling like hot cakes these days. More technology at hand.



On that RAM...they don't sell 4 x 4 gig sets of 1866mhz sets, but with the combo it was a bargain...that and it's faster than the usual 1600mhz sticks.
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April 25, 2011 5:01:08 AM

OK... before anybody gets any ideas of water cooling for these MSI 560's...please take a look at the two links down below.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-n560gtx-ti-twin-froze... <---temps @ idle and temps under load.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-n560gtx-ti-twin-froze... <---- noise level of that card @ idle and under load

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/02/21/msi_n560gtx_t... <--- temps of that card in SLI

Water cooling that card makes as much sense as water cooling for that SB cpu. It's comparable to making ice even colder.
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April 25, 2011 5:09:55 AM

Aw. Thanks for the info!

Just because I can build a computer doesnt mean I know jack :p 

I'm impressed with this 560!

bios flash are simple? So I wouldn't need a new Mobo with the Ivy bridge.

Great!

Thanks for your help thus far Why!
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April 29, 2011 2:38:56 AM

OK the XFX Power Supply is out of stock on Newegg. So decided to go with a Corsair

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also I think I will need a bigger SSD Drive than 128. As it is now my main drive with my OS is a 10k rpm WD 150g and I only have 25gig of space left.

Could you recommend a bigger SSD around 150 and higher thats still relitively low on the cost?

Also I know the Coolmaster case if setup for easy WCooling but also does well at air cooling. So I will go with your advice and stick with just Air.

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May 24, 2013 1:41:37 AM

GTX Titan LE R4 - you have two monitor with IPS-panel that are also go for gaming, you have two watercooler for easier cable management - one for the cpu and one for the GTX 780, Windows is also included but If you have a custom water cooler and windows and only need of one monitor then GTX Titan LE R4 Machine. The mic that I suggest is a very good; I have it and I impressed how good it is. A video review shows its quality.

I haven't added any speakers since I don't any experience in this field.

I hope this help

Some other config

Triple FHD setup - I am not sure if 670 can utilize 4GB (I read that it only uses 2.3GB from the 4GB). You can overclock the i7 by increasing the BCLK to 125MHz giving a max of 4.8GHz with one core active. You have three IPS-panels ideal for what you are doing. If one is enough delete the other two.

Dual Socket LGA 2011 Working Station - You can add a second hexa core ( it must be within same family, in this case E5-2600 and it must have the TDP-value - 95W)
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