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Cheapest Possible Wow High-Ultra build.

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April 24, 2011 10:16:41 PM

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Approximate Purchase Date: May 7th

Budget Range: ?? Cheapest possible $450-500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Wow high settings @ 60 fps, recording fraps, watching wow pvp movies.

Parts Not Required: monitor, os(maybe), keyboard, mouse,speakers
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com


Country of Origin: Mn, Us


Parts Preferences: by brand or type (e.g.: nvidia performs wow better so that, and a good cpu(quad) since wow is more cpu intensive

Overclocking: If i cant hit 60 fps with custom settings with my budget than ill do it, other than that no.


SLI or Crossfire: no


Monitor Resolution: 1440x900 starlogic "19 monitor


Additional Comments: Not sure if i can use my old hard drive with windows xp pro for REFURBISHED pc's and put it in new build, i have the cd and a key on my computer but idk if it would work. I dont think it's from dell, since it was refurbished by Joy systems. I only play wow and i'm sick of 14 fps on low when trying to pvp at high tier and having my computer wear me down.

If any suggestions
April 25, 2011 2:27:28 AM

:/  no help?
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April 25, 2011 4:38:08 AM

$90: Phenom II x2 555
$40: G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
$55: BIOSTAR A770E3 AM3
$40: Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W
HDD should work in new comp if it is sata, skinny red cable. But you will have to reinstall windows xp = lose all of your data and have to reinstall everything.
$20: LITE-ON Black 24X DVD
$40-50: Pick a case you will like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007583%204025%20600029808&IsNodeId=1&name=No
$55: GTS 250 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150513
Total: $350. Add in 40-50 if you need a new hdd.

I'm fairly sure a GTS 250 is good enough for wow at your resolution. Or you can go up to a 450 gts but those run about $95.
If you really want a quad core then you can go with a Phenom II X4 925 for $115.
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April 25, 2011 5:12:38 PM

can i swap out for a gts 450? would i need a bigger psu?
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April 25, 2011 5:35:57 PM

if you want 60 fps with ultra settings and shadows on, it's not exactly doable in your budget, especially in you have fraps running.

Back when I played, my xfire 5850's + i5-750 @3.6ghz dropped to ~30 fps in large outdoor pvp like wintergrasp.

Fraps running is another 5-10 FPS drop.

Now that said, if you're fine with shadows off and tweaking settings a bit, it might be doable at high at 1440x900 for $500.

The issue is that your OS license from your dell is not transferable since it was OEm and therefor tied to the mobo on your dell.

That effectively knocks you budget down to $400, which puts it into, not really doable territory.

Dyers build above will get you I'd guess around 30fps in raid environment with shadows off at tweaked high settings. That's what I got with a Core 2 duo E6400@3.8ghz + 3870 build a couple years back, which is about equivalent performance.

The general issue with MMO's is that the FPS varies a ton depending upon where you are/whats going on onscreen.

The latest $500 build from the marathon is about as low as you wanna go to get the performance you want.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-pc-ph...

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April 26, 2011 2:49:46 PM

here is a Sandy Bridge build with a GTS 450. I encluded a HDD, as I wasn't sure you could re-use yours.
if you could post the specs of your current computer it would help. these items would be good to know:

hard drive (ide or Sata?)
DVD drive (ide or Sata?) is it re-usable?
do you really need a case or can yours be re-used?

if you have the Windows CD and Key you should be able to re-use it. you might need to slip stream the newest service pack into it to get it to work. it will need to connect to MS to to validate again. you will just select replace mb or something like that.

I linked how to install a new mb without reloading windows. though would be better if you just get WIN7/64 home, if you can re-use some more of your old computer it might be possible within your budget.

I always suggest the fastest GPU you can afford. the Sapphire HD 5850 is only $140 at newegg right now. if you have any flexibility in your budget I would go for it.

LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16827106289
$19.99

Seagate Barracuda ST3500413AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16822148701
$39.99

COOLER MASTER Elite RC-310-BWN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16811119203
$39.99

Galaxy 50SGH8HX3QMZ GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) GC Version 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP SLI Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16814162062
-$40.00 Instant
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$149.99
$109.99

Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16817371033
-$20.00 Instant
$59.99
$39.99

Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16820146748
$39.99

MB/CPU Combo SandyBridge Dual core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Intel Core i3-2100 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I32100
Item #: N82E16819115078
ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131724
-$15.00 Combo
$204.98
$189.98
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$479.92 shipping is $21.62 MIR of $30 if you do that stuff.


Articles on swapping MB's without reloading windows.
http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/07/09/move-win...
http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2007/09/how-to-ins...
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April 27, 2011 1:45:14 AM

i do need a new case because mine is so small. no room for upgrades at all. The mobo is also outdated no pcie slots :/ 
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April 27, 2011 5:47:06 AM



thanks for the link. I think you should be ok with reusing it and it is service pack 3 which is good.
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April 27, 2011 7:06:48 AM

ruin5002 said:
i do need a new case because mine is so small. no room for upgrades at all. The mobo is also outdated no pcie slots :/ 


yep, you need new everything. I wouldn't re-use you HDD, I would just re-load from you XP install disks. or if you can find another $100 to get WIN 7/64bit home it would be better.

At the $500 price point the i3-2100 Dual Core build I suggested is about the best/fastest you can get. it is just as fast, if not faster in games, than most of the AMD Quad core processors.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-cor...

Bumping up another $100 on hardware and $100 for WIN 7 gets you a much better system, a quad core i5-2400 and a better GPU. if you have that room in your budget I would be happy to provide links to the upgrades.


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April 27, 2011 5:16:32 PM

yea i just got hired so i can spend about $800 on a new build :D . WOO mcdonalds ftw haha
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April 27, 2011 7:22:41 PM

ruin5002 said:
yea i just got hired so i can spend about $800 on a new build :D . WOO mcdonalds ftw haha


Mickey D's to the rescue:

Ok here you are. I upgraded the PSU so that you had options down the road. Upgraded to a quad core i5-2400 and over clocked HD6850 Video Card you could swap it for a GTX 460 OC also. added WIN 7-64 home.

LITE-ON CD/DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16827106289
$20.99

COOLER MASTER Elite RC-310-BWN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16811119203
$39.99

Seagate Barracuda ST3500413AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16822148701
$39.99

HIS IceQ X Turbo H685QNT1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16814161363
-$10.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$199.99
$189.99

Antec EarthWatts EA-500D Green 500W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16817371035
-$30.00 Instant
$89.99
$59.99

Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model ...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Item #: N82E16820146748
$39.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit English 1-Pack - OEM
Item #: N82E16832116986
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$99.99

i5-2400 CPU/MB Combo Deal
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400
Item #: N82E16819115074
ASUS P8H61-M LE/CSM (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131724
-$20.00 Combo
$269.98
$249.98
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$740.91 Shipping: $16.76 MIR $10
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April 27, 2011 8:35:51 PM

Also should i get more ram like 8gbs?
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April 28, 2011 11:20:08 AM

For Gaming the i5 is the best chip right now. the main difference in the i7 and i5 is the i7 has hyper threading. most games don't use it, so the +$100 premium isn't worth it IMOA.

4Gb of ram is all you need for gaming. there is no significant speed increase with 8gbs
this article looks at the adding memory to a system:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ram-memory-upgrade,...

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