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April 26, 2011 5:11:51 AM

Hello,
i would like to get some advise about my first build I'm planning to do on June. i have chosen most of the components but need help on a few but welcome any comment on all. i would be playing games but I'm not really a hardcore gamer. i also use Photoshop CS5. my current set up is

cpu=-2500k
mobo= asus p8p67 evo-$200
ram= g.skill ripjaws 4gb-$50
HDD= western digital black caviar black 1 tb-$90
os= window 7 home premium-$100
case=cm storm enforcer-$90
psu= around 650w
gpu=really need HELP!!!
drive=any for a good price

i would like to order all my parts from newegg.com y budget is around $1200 maybe a little more not including monitor, mouse, or keyboard.

any help would be appreciated Thanks

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April 26, 2011 6:16:43 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic... <---- I'm taking a shot in the dark...I don't know your monitors resolution, if you plan on going with dual vid cards at some time down the road, over clocking...? etc....

This build is set up so that you can add another one of those factory over clocked gtx 560's later on down the road. It includes an after market cpu h/s (thermal paste included), 8GB of low voltage RAM, etc...

Also if you don't check amazon chances are your going to be burned on shipping charges now and then from newegg...like that case and heat sink, even that Samsung h/d is cheaper on amazon than newegg. Money is money... $

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WK3KKQ/ref=ox_sc_a... $89.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Storm Enforcer USB 3.0 Mid Tower ATX Case with Window and Black Interior (SGC-1000-KWN1)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <---- That's the same case on newegg + shipping.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99 - $94.99 after mail-in rebate
Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $234.98 FREE SHIPPING Limited time Shell Shocker® deal
ASUS P8P67 PRO (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $464.98 $20.00 Mail-In Rebate Price After Mail-In Rebate(s): $444.98 FREE SHIPPING
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10... $28.67 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Intern... $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung Desktop Class Spinpoint F3 1 TB SATA 3.0 Gb-s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare-OEM Drives, HD103SJ

http://www.amazon.com/Lite--LightScribe-Layer-Drive-IHA... $24.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98 - Retail (Black)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit English 1-Pack - OEM

Total: $1,113.58 *not including shipping, mail in rebates, etc..
April 26, 2011 4:09:23 PM

ON MB - Skip P67 models, go for Z68. Due out 11 May or very shortly afterwards.
(1) It combines the benifits of the H67 and The P67
(2) Currently I do not recommend any p67 MB, At least for the next 6 Mon. Reason - All the ones that have been return, the manufs are pulling the defective chipset and sending them to INTEL for replacement - Unk, are they then putting the new chipsets on the returned MB and reselling???? I hope NOT but.....

More from personal preference: My first choice is Gigabyte, followed by Usus - there are a few others - Waiting for reviews.
As to which model - look at the spec, ie # of USB2/3 ports, # of SATA 2/3 ports, and IMPORTANT read the details of PCI-e slots - Normally x16 is only available AT X16 if there is NO card in 2nd slot. some downgrade to x8,x8 (no problem here, but some do a x8, x4 - ouch.

GPU - ATI vs Nvidia
You indicated not a "Hardcore gamer" so pick a card, then look for a review
Ex Googled ati 6950 (shows comparision for many cards - frame rates for selected games - also shows power consumpution - important for PSU selection. Pick what you feel is great from standpoint of price/performance.
IE: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4061/amds-radeon-hd-6970-...
Here I would also look at the reviews on newegg (Just take with a grain of salt. But if a given GPU has a high 1/2 egg review, with at least 100 reviews - avoid it!

PSU. Unless you plan on running two gpus in xfire/SLI. Any good corsair (or any equally quality) 500->650 Watts would be great. Infact a 650 Watt would power twin 6950's in xfire.
System power:
6850s = Approx 300 W ........ (2 x 6970 Xfire 570 W)
570s = Approx 330 Watts .... (2 x 580s SLI 620W Here I would recomend the 750W PSU for the SLI conf.)

Based on frame rate, and you find a ATI and a Nvidia card, within about $30 of each other, pick the lower power consumption one. EX if X is $30 less, but requires 30 watts more, remember that extra 30 watt is like the energizer bunny - you keep on paying ( ie 30 W x 2Hrs/day x 3 day/wk = 9 KW per year added to electric bill) also the 30 Watts is more heat and more demand on PSU.
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April 26, 2011 8:09:48 PM

thanks a lot guys, to be honest, Why-Me, i forgot about amazon. I actually had not heard about newegg.com before this website. I was actually looking at the msi gtx 560 ti but I wasn't shore about it. I do plan on overclocking and using a 23" monitor.

Since I'm planning to get my components on early June I looking forward to check out the new Motherboard you suggested RetiredChief. I'm not a hardcore gamer but who knows maybe I'll become one after this build. :D 
April 26, 2011 8:21:18 PM

You might as well game with that build. The i5 2500K is the best gaming CPU for sale today.
April 26, 2011 8:33:24 PM

what do you think about the psu. how much power do i need to run 2 of those gtx 560 ti's. and has anyone bought the MS Storm Enforcer I want to know how well does it cool.
April 26, 2011 8:47:04 PM

A good 650 Watt for min, recommend 750Watt
Approx 350 W for single card + 175 W for 2nd Card = 525W Add min of 20% reserve = 525 + 115 Watts reserve = 640 Watts.
April 26, 2011 8:47:41 PM

6roilan said:
what do you think about the psu. how much power do i need to run 2 of those gtx 560 ti's. and has anyone bought the MS Storm Enforcer I want to know how well does it cool.

That case has been out on the market less than 48 hours now but they do have some reviews on it. Also look at the CM HAF 922, and CM Scout...both of those cases are in the same price range as that CM Enforcer and have good cooling.

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/category.php?category_i... <----- If you click on the CM Enforcer case on that link and then click "Reviews", they already have a bunch of reviews out on that case. Also though, take a look at those two other cases I mentioned...they are on this same link.
April 26, 2011 9:04:41 PM

I'm using the following Corsair 650Watt PS in my I5-2500K build (OC 4.8 GHz w/ Antec H2O 620) with 2x EVGA 01G-P3-1563-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti SuperClocked Video Cards.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X24ISU

4 weeks without a hickup

April 27, 2011 1:51:45 AM

RetiredChief said:
A good 650 Watt for min, recommend 750Watt

Approx 350 W for single card + 175 W for 2nd Card = 525W Add min of 20% reserve = 525 + 115 Watts reserve = 640 Watts.



so the second card doesn't need the whole 350w like the first? what about extra fans for the case? or maybe even a setup of the cool lighting?
April 27, 2011 1:57:44 AM

Why_Me said:
That case has been out on the market less than 48 hours now but they do have some reviews on it. Also look at the CM HAF 922, and CM Scout...both of those cases are in the same price range as that CM Enforcer and have good cooling.

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/category.php?category_i... <----- If you click on the CM Enforcer case on that link and then click "Reviews", they already have a bunch of reviews out on that case. Also though, take a look at those two other cases I mentioned...they are on this same link.


Those were my top two choices before I found out about the Enforcer. The reason I didn't pick the CM 922 was because of the bad reviews on the fans, which I think was the thing that made the case. The Scout had those handles, that make the case great mobility.

and thanks again Why_Me I really appreciated.
April 27, 2011 2:06:03 AM

RetiredChief said:
ON MB - Skip P67 models, go for Z68. Due out 11 May or very shortly afterwards.
(1) It combines the benifits of the H67 and The P67
(2) Currently I do not recommend any p67 MB, At least for the next 6 Mon. Reason - All the ones that have been return, the manufs are pulling the defective chipset and sending them to INTEL for replacement - Unk, are they then putting the new chipsets on the returned MB and reselling???? I hope NOT but.....

More from personal preference: My first choice is Gigabyte, followed by Usus - there are a few others - Waiting for reviews.
As to which model - look at the spec, ie # of USB2/3 ports, # of SATA 2/3 ports, and IMPORTANT read the details of PCI-e slots - Normally x16 is only available AT X16 if there is NO card in 2nd slot. some downgrade to x8,x8 (no problem here, but some do a x8, x4 - ouch.

GPU - ATI vs Nvidia
You indicated not a "Hardcore gamer" so pick a card, then look for a review
Ex Googled ati 6950 (shows comparision for many cards - frame rates for selected games - also shows power consumpution - important for PSU selection. Pick what you feel is great from standpoint of price/performance.
IE: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4061/amds-radeon-hd-6970-...
Here I would also look at the reviews on newegg (Just take with a grain of salt. But if a given GPU has a high 1/2 egg review, with at least 100 reviews - avoid it!

PSU. Unless you plan on running two gpus in xfire/SLI. Any good corsair (or any equally quality) 500->650 Watts would be great. Infact a 650 Watt would power twin 6950's in xfire.
System power:
6850s = Approx 300 W ........ (2 x 6970 Xfire 570 W)
570s = Approx 330 Watts .... (2 x 580s SLI 620W Here I would recomend the 750W PSU for the SLI conf.)

Based on frame rate, and you find a ATI and a Nvidia card, within about $30 of each other, pick the lower power consumption one. EX if X is $30 less, but requires 30 watts more, remember that extra 30 watt is like the energizer bunny - you keep on paying ( ie 30 W x 2Hrs/day x 3 day/wk = 9 KW per year added to electric bill) also the 30 Watts is more heat and more demand on PSU.



MMMM Chief I opted for the 2500 and a H67 for my first build and am left wondering that I should have gone P67 and K but will the Z68 be better for or benefit what I have got?
I have Googled it but not being allthat savvy would appreciate your opinion.

I notice too you mentioned Corsair PSU - have got the HX 650 - a brilliant litle unit and so well presented will this be enough for any updating to my build? Have Coolermaster Centurion II case - again brilliant for cooling is this going to take the extra heat if theres any - sorry but absolute newbie at this.

Plus now I have the "bug" should I wait perhaps for the Bulldozer instead??
April 27, 2011 2:06:50 AM

6roilan said:
so the second card doesn't need the whole 350w like the first? what about extra fans for the case? or maybe even a setup of the cool lighting?

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/02/21/msi_n560gtx_t... <--- That's the MSI 560 card I put in that build in SLI in regards to power consumption. Get a solid 750w like that Antec I posted to be on the safe side. If you do more "google searches" on it they all say the same thing...you can get by with a 650w but your cutting it close. No need to cut it close.
April 27, 2011 2:46:43 AM

6roilan said:
was looking at this monitor. I think this is the best choice for me at 1920x1080 the 560 ti's are my best option. what do you think?

:whistle:  how do you add links? :( 

That's a good one. :) 

Here's two worth looking at if your looking to cut cost.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $179.99 - $169.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
ASUS VH238H Black 23" Full HD HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor w/Speakers 250 cd/m2 ASCR 50,000,000:1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $139.99 FREE SHIPPING
Gateway FHX2152Lbd Black 21.5" 1920x1080 2ms Full HD LED BackLight LCD Monitor Slim Design 250 cd/m2 1000:1
April 27, 2011 2:56:19 AM

For the 3rd time!
@ 6roilan
"so the second card doesn't need the whole 350w like the first?"
Ans- No. The 350 Watts was for a complete system which inclued one gpu, the GPU by itself is only arround 175w. My MIN required was 650 w, but aggree with why_Me on 750 for a recommend value.
On links, I just go to address bar at to, high lite and do a Control C to copy to clipboard, the a Control V to paste where I want it. In your link if you edit it and delete at the end it will work.
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VE247H-23-6-Inch-1920x1080-M...]
Monitors to me are more personal, If possible go to a brick-and-morter store (ie bestbuy) and take a look at it. Spec (i look at new egg for specs. Brightness (300 - a little Low), Contrast - New Method to compute renders this USELESS, But this is true for most monitors these days - has made this spec simply a marketing hype. 14% 1/2 eggs, not great/not bad.

@Highpass46
there is little benifit going with a Z68 mb with a non-k series cpu. This is the reason that most members recommend spending the few dollars mor and get the k-series cpu.
As to BD, If I was even thinking about waiting, I'd wait for IvyBridge.
April 27, 2011 3:08:55 AM

RetiredChief said:
For the 3rd time!
@ 6roilan
"so the second card doesn't need the whole 350w like the first?"
Ans- No. The 350 Watts was for a complete system which inclued one gpu, the GPU by itself is only arround 175w. My MIN required was 650 w, but aggree with why_Me on 750 for a recommend value.
On links, I just go to address bar at to, high lite and do a Control C to copy to clipboard, the a Control V to paste where I want it. In your link if you edit it and delete at the end it will work.
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VE247H-23-6-Inch-1920x1080-M...]
@Highpass46
there is little benifit going with a Z68 mb with a non-k series cpu. This is the reason that most members recommend spending the few dollars mor and get the k-series cpu.
As to BD, If I was even thinking about waiting, I'd wait for IvyBridge.
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my bad I thought you were talking about a single, Oh and I got the link :sweat: 
April 27, 2011 3:52:06 AM

RetiredChief said:
For the 3rd time!
@ 6roilan
"so the second card doesn't need the whole 350w like the first?"
Ans- No. The 350 Watts was for a complete system which inclued one gpu, the GPU by itself is only arround 175w. My MIN required was 650 w, but aggree with why_Me on 750 for a recommend value.
On links, I just go to address bar at to, high lite and do a Control C to copy to clipboard, the a Control V to paste where I want it. In your link if you edit it and delete at the end it will work.
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VE247H-23-6-Inch-1920x1080-M...]
Monitors to me are more personal, If possible go to a brick-and-morter store (ie bestbuy) and take a look at it. Spec (i look at new egg for specs. Brightness (300 - a little Low), Contrast - New Method to compute renders this USELESS, But this is true for most monitors these days - has made this spec simply a marketing hype. 14% 1/2 eggs, not great/not bad.

@Highpass46
there is little benifit going with a Z68 mb with a non-k series cpu. This is the reason that most members recommend spending the few dollars mor and get the k-series cpu.
As to BD, If I was even thinking about waiting, I'd wait for IvyBridge.



Ok thanks Chief -taken on board - cheers for the heads up.
April 27, 2011 1:33:27 PM

PS
MY comment "for the 3rd time"
was for How many times I had to TYPE the message - I'd type it and for one reason or another the message disapeared before I could "Submit" it
!