Go with 2 GTX 460 SE SLI or One Gtx 570? Costs?

[spenceryuan]

I currently have a EVGA GTX 460 SE with an Antec Earthwatts 650.

I was wondering if I should get another 460 SE at about $155 bucks, or if I should do a step up and trade in my GTX 460 SE for a GTX 570, for an extra 180 dollars. ($170 trade in for $350 Card)

I just built a new rig and right after the new 5 series came out. I also didn't know that the SE version was the lowest model was worse until after I bought it.

What would you guys do? Power supply could also be an issue. My earthwatts is not meant for SLI but i can use a 4 pin converter and Slide the other one in.

Would having the SE edition in SLI perform close to as well as the regular GTX 460?

I'm also assuming the GTX 460 SE in SLI will perform at least 20% better than the GTX 570.


Thoughts and suggstions? thanks

What I have now:
Corsair 600T case
Asus X58 Sabertooth
i7-950 , No overclock
1 64 GB Crucial SSD
1 TB HDD
6 GB RAM
1 CD/RW
Antec Earthwatts 650

 

[dimamu15]

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/314?vs=306
It is not SE but I would imagine it still to beat single 570. However SE version is just seem crappy to me.
I think one 570 is a better choice. SE is just, uhhh...

 

[iam2thecrowe]

the se card can be seriously overclocked if your into that > http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/38178-nvidia-geforce-gtx-460-se-1gb-review-16.html
i think if you have the $180 then go for the faster single card. but 2 gtx460 se in sli would be pretty fast still especially if you overclock them a bit. the gtx570 is a good overclocker, but they are prone to frying when overclocked leaving you with a dead card.

 

[jimishtar]

definitely go with a single card. there is so much trouble when using multiple cards (drivers, games, stutering, file renaming, heat, etc). And boy, is 460 SE a crappy card.... u dont wanna buy one, even less two of them.

 

[spenceryuan]

Okay thanks. Yea just wanted the input. I'm sure the two will be faster than 1, but I guess if I get the 570 it will give me room to upgrade later. I guess I'll be down a couple weeks and will be without a card.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

definitely go with a single card. there is so much trouble when using multiple cards (drivers, games, stutering, file renaming, heat, etc). And boy, is 460 SE a crappy card.... u dont wanna buy one, even less two of them.

how do you justify the 460se as a crappy card? its not that much slower than the full 460 1gb and can be faster than it when overclocked and is cheaper.....

 

[dimamu15]

how do you justify the 460se as a crappy card? its not that much slower than the full 460 1gb and can be faster than it when overclocked and is cheaper.....

Doesn't it have 48 less core processors? I would assume that makes somewhat slower in games.
According to these reviews:
SE - http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/38178-nvidia-geforce-gtx-460-se-1gb-review-16.html
Full - http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/34089-nvidia-geforce-gtx-460-1gb-gtx-460-768mb-review-18.html
Yes SE overclocks better, but that is not a big gap in speeds I see. I would assume again that core processors are more essential than core speed. Correct me If I am wrong

My first thoughts combined with EE version where I've read many bad reviews on its cooling. So I guess SE is not crappy, just a little crappier

 

[jimishtar]

how do you justify the 460se as a crappy card? its not that much slower than the full 460 1gb and can be faster than it when overclocked and is cheaper.....

cause its a card that should never existed ? its 460gtx intended for the junk yard (less cores), its not 460 1gb, nor a 460 768Mb. so why not make money from it and sell it as SE ? pls

 

[jorgeireyes]

I currently have a EVGA GTX 460 SE with an Antec Earthwatts 650.

I was wondering if I should get another 460 SE at about $155 bucks, or if I should do a step up and trade in my GTX 460 SE for a GTX 570, for an extra 180 dollars. ($170 trade in for $350 Card)

I just built a new rig and right after the new 5 series came out. I also didn't know that the SE version was the lowest model was worse until after I bought it.

What would you guys do? Power supply could also be an issue. My earthwatts is not meant for SLI but i can use a 4 pin converter and Slide the other one in.

Would having the SE edition in SLI perform close to as well as the regular GTX 460?

I'm also assuming the GTX 460 SE in SLI will perform at least 20% better than the GTX 570.


Thoughts and suggstions? thanks

What I have now:
Corsair 600T case
Asus X58 Sabertooth
i7-950 , No overclock
1 64 GB Crucial SSD
1 TB HDD
6 GB RAM
1 CD/RW
Antec Earthwatts 650

Upgrade your Power Supply at least to 800W and get the 570GTX. Always think of the future.

 

[jb6684]

I'd go with the single 570GTX. Two main reasons:
Power:
- your Antec Earthwatts 650 is not SLI certified
- if you go to Antec's PS calculator http://www.antec.outervision.com/PSUEngine
you'll see that one 570 recommends 592watts and SLI 460's 582watts. If you overclock the 460's to get extra speed they can deliver, you'll be short on watts and likely pretty unstable.


Heat:
- SLI or Crossfire will raise the temperature of the top card 10 to 15 degrees C. You have a great case but I've tried SLI & Crossfire in Antec P182, P183, HAF-X, HAF-922, and Corsair 800D cases and found the increase in temperature in all of them.


Go with the fastest single card. With your current power supply a single 570GTX is your max.

You might also look at the new 560 Ti it'll need 524 watts and if you read a few reviews does a good job for less money...

 

[jorgeireyes]

I'd go with the single 570GTX. Two main reasons:
Power:
- your Antec Earthwatts 650 is not SLI certified
- if you go to Antec's PS calculator http://www.antec.outervision.com/PSUEngine
you'll see that one 570 recommends 592watts and SLI 460's 582watts. If you overclock the 460's to get extra speed they can deliver, you'll be short on watts and likely pretty unstable.


Heat:
- SLI or Crossfire will raise the temperature of the top card 10 to 15 degrees C. You have a great case but I've tried SLI & Crossfire in Antec P182, P183, HAF-X, HAF-922, and Corsair 800D cases and found the increase in temperature in all of them.


Go with the fastest single card. With your current power supply a single 570GTX is your max.

You might also look at the new 560 Ti it'll need 524 watts and if you read a few reviews does a good job for less money...

True true.

 

[spenceryuan]

So it turns out that I can't step up my card. I'm pretty pissed about it. EVGA does not make it clear which cards you can step up. Some cards have different warranties than others which is complete BS. I paid $170 for my card from an authorized retailer(central computers) about 7 weeks ago and am stuck with it. Here is what EVGA said.

"Only parts that carry a limited lifetime warranty, or parts that have purchased an extended warranty, are eligible for EVGA's Step-Up.

Your product is a -TR product which carries a 2 year warranty and no options to Step-Up."

What the hell is a Tr product? really deceiving if you ask me.

I guess I'm probably going to have to get another GTX 460 SE and put it in SLI because selling it wouldn't be worth it. I have a Antec Earthwatts 650w, and that should be enough, though I could be pushing it....Argh....

Probably will have to do something to play Crysis 2 when it comes out. I'm gettin 75-90 fps on COD: Black ops with full settings(but anti liasing at x8)

Wish I did more research before I bought my rig. You live and you learn:/

 

[jorgeireyes]

So it turns out that I can't step up my card. I'm pretty pissed about it. EVGA does not make it clear which cards you can step up. Some cards have different warranties than others which is complete BS. I paid $170 for my card from an authorized retailer(central computers) about 7 weeks ago and am stuck with it. Here is what EVGA said.

"Only parts that carry a limited lifetime warranty, or parts that have purchased an extended warranty, are eligible for EVGA's Step-Up.

Your product is a -TR product which carries a 2 year warranty and no options to Step-Up."

What the hell is a Tr product? really deceiving if you ask me.

I guess I'm probably going to have to get another GTX 460 SE and put it in SLI because selling it wouldn't be worth it. I have a Antec Earthwatts 650w, and that should be enough, though I could be pushing it....Argh....

Probably will have to do something to play Crysis 2 when it comes out. I'm gettin 75-90 fps on COD: Black ops with full settings(but anti liasing at x8)

Wish I did more research before I bought my rig. You live and you learn:/

Try to upgrade to a 5 Series if possible. Upgrade your PSU. You CAN sell those parts. Just don't hope on getting the FULL money unless you have original boxing and unused parts.