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April 26, 2011 5:23:17 PM

Hey guys, i want to thank you all in advance for your help. This is my first attempt ever at building a computer so i was hoping if i posted the parts i plan to use i could get some feedback as to whether it will be a decent system, and maybe some recommendations for parts to change out or keep.

The system will be primarily used for gaming (WOW mostly, yes i know im a nerd lol) and then normal internet browsing.

Here is a list of the parts and a link to them as well..

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Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair IV Formula AMD 890FX AM3 Motherboard

Link: http://www.frys.com/product/6233520?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN...

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CPU: AMD phenom II X6 Black

Link: http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=...

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Graphics Card: EVGA GTX460 SE 1GB 1024 DDR5 DirectX11

Link: http://www.frys.com/product/6373281?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN...

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Ram: DDR3 8GB 1600MHz Dual G2 Gamer Heat Spreader

Link: http://www.frys.com/product/6504593

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Power Supply: Coolmax 700W ATX CU-70B 120MM silent fan

Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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DVDRW: Asus 24X OEM DVDRW OEM package SATA

Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit

Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Hard Drive: Samsung HD103SJ 1TB Spinpoint F3 Sata/300 7200 RPM, 32MB Buffer

Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Case: Antex Lanboy Air Yellow modular case

Link: http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=MjQ1NA==

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Again i'm a total noob at this, i've been researching some online, but i figured the best way to make sure i get the performance i desire is to ask someone experienced, hence you guys lol.

Thanks for the help and any part swaps or reccommendations are greatly appreciated.

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April 26, 2011 5:59:44 PM

an i3-2100 is the best value choice for wow. no AMD processor comes close and it costs $125. buy an antec, corsair, xfx, or seasonic psu. i have no idea what your budget is, but i would always spend more money on the graphics card than the case.
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April 26, 2011 6:06:40 PM

Also the se version of the gtx 460 is a stripped down version with less shaders. Get the windows 7 home oem its 100$, you wont need more than that.
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April 26, 2011 6:49:33 PM

I was trying to stay with an AMD system instead of intel. As for the shaders i have to be honest i'm not entirely sure what that means lol. Also with my budget, i am trying to stay under 1800$
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April 26, 2011 7:11:36 PM

I myself have always favored AMD. Right now building a gaming computer with AMD is only reasonable if the budget is under 500$. In a few weeks AMD is releasing bulldozer, which should have a larger performance upgrade over the current offerings.
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April 26, 2011 8:15:30 PM

The processor i have chosen though, is a 6 core clocked at 3.3Ghz and has the capability to turbo to 3.7 without manual overclocking, as opposed to the I3 mentioned earlier with only 2 and 4 threads clocked at 3.1GHz. So how would the I3 be a better choice? Maybe i should have mentioned this, but WOW is not the ONLY game i play, but it is the most played.
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April 26, 2011 8:58:59 PM

Well the i3-2100 performs better in several games, particularly those that only make the most of 2 cores (like blizzard games). With your budget, however, the clear choice is the i5-2500k. It is better than the AMD x6 in every game (there might be certain exceptions that prove the rule), and vastly better in WOW. You may review benchmarks here:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=203
or here (the 2500k is not shown, but it is a HIGHER clocked i5-2400, with an unlocked multiplier)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu-cor...

your question is certainly not a stupid one, however. The simplest answer i can provide is that clock speed and core count are not the only factors in cpu performance.
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April 26, 2011 9:17:04 PM

What other factors should i be looking at when choosing a CPU then? I believe i will go with the I5 you suggested, however for down the road when say i upgrade or build a whole new rig, i would like to know what to look for. Also, why is it that a quad core or 6X core CPU doesnt perform as well with a game such as WOW.. I mean wouldnt it make sense that more cores would perform better? or even that WOW would only utilize two of the cores to make the game perform just as well as it would with a dual core?
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April 27, 2011 9:40:03 AM

coolstuffoct0292 said:
What other factors should i be looking at when choosing a CPU then? I believe i will go with the I5 you suggested, however for down the road when say i upgrade or build a whole new rig, i would like to know what to look for. Also, why is it that a quad core or 6X core CPU doesnt perform as well with a game such as WOW.. I mean wouldnt it make sense that more cores would perform better? or even that WOW would only utilize two of the cores to make the game perform just as well as it would with a dual core?

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic... <--- Do you have an o/s (Windows), when do you plan on buying, dual vid cards, ...etc..

Also now is not the time to be buying an AMD cpu. A $225 Intel i5 2500K over clocks to 5.0ghz+ on mediocre air cooling. The only person right now that would even consider buying an AMD cpu is someone with a budget of sub $500 or an AMD stock holder.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=288 <----- AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE vs Intel Core i5 2500K benchmarks

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=287 <----- AMD Phenom II X6 1100T BE vs Intel Core i7 2600K benchmarks

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-990x-extrem... <----- $1,000 Intel Core i7-990X Extreme vs $330 Intel Core i7 2600K Sandy Bridge

*Sandy Bridge reviews down below

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-core-i...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-rev...

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1501/1/

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i5-2500k-and-core-i7...
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April 27, 2011 9:42:09 AM

Here's a build I posted on another thread a few minutes ago. This build will rip any game out there. The case in this build just came out yesterday so there's no customer reviews on it but if you go to the Cooler Master site they have some professional reviews on it and they were all good. That case has size and cooling.

Down below is dual factory over clocked gtx 560's in SLI.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WK3KKQ/ref=ox_sc_a... $89.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Storm Enforcer USB 3.0 Mid Tower ATX Case with Window and Black Interior (SGC-1000-KWN1)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... <----- that same case @ newegg + shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $109.99 - $94.99 after mail-in rebate
Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $159.99
ASRock P67 EXTREME4 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $459.98 $20.00 Mail-In Rebate Price After Mail-In Rebate(s): $439.98 FREE SHIPPING
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $244.99 (Before $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) FREE SHIPPING
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10... $29.15 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-3-5-Inch-Intern... $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Samsung Desktop Class Spinpoint F3 1 TB SATA 3.0 Gb-s 32 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare-OEM Drives, HD103SJ

http://www.amazon.com/Lite--LightScribe-Layer-Drive-IHA... $24.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98 - Retail (Black)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit English 1-Pack - OEM

Total: $1,348.12 *not including monitor, shipping, and mail in rebates

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_gtx560_twin... <--- review/benchmarks of that card

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/02/21/msi_n560gtx_t... <--- review benchmarks of that card in SLI

http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000116#axzz1... <---Review on that Asrock motherboard after the latest bios update

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1098/pg2/asrock-e... <---Review on that Asrock motherboard after the latest bios update

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4080/welcome-to-sandy-bri... <--- Review before the latest bios...and it still smoked the Asus and Gigabyte boards in it's class

http://www.asrock.com/news/events/201102ex/warranty.htm... <---- Asrock two year warranty

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=P67%20Extre... <----- ASRock P67 Extreme4 Motherboard
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April 27, 2011 1:17:33 PM

Thanks a lot for all the information. I do like the build you posted, will look into it.
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