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How to fix Inconsistant framrates using the Radeon 5770

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February 20, 2011 4:39:13 PM

Hello, I got the VTX3D Radeon HD 5770 and I'm not satisfied with the performance of the card. It runs CoD Black Ops with everything on MAX including anti aliasing at 30ish fps (sometimes lower) in outdoors with lots of explosions. My old graphics card 3870 ran Modern Warfare 2 better than that. Starcraft 2 runs at 20-30 fps when its crowded. Fallout New Vegas with the latest patch that fixes many of the performance issues runs at 40-50 fps. On the other hand, Two Worlds II run at a consistent 60 fps and I've never seen it drop once(got vsync on so I'm capping the fps at 60.) Are my framerates reasonable for heavier games like the first 3 I mentioned or should it be better than that? How can I improve it?

btw I have catalyst 11.2 which is the latest atm and I defragmented my HDDs.

These are my specs:
MSI Platinum K9A2
AMD Phenom Black 9950
VTX3D Radeon 5770
4gb DDR2 ram
February 20, 2011 4:44:00 PM

Well what resolution are you playing at?
February 21, 2011 11:48:06 AM

1440X900
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February 21, 2011 5:07:05 PM

Buy a new video card and processor. Your system is ghetto, why would you think you can run anti-aliasing?
February 21, 2011 9:33:45 PM

turn off anti aliasing and get a new CPU. Starcraft needs a beefy CPU, upgrading the video card wont do that much. get one of the newer phenom x4's if you can like a 955, then overclock it to get decent Starcraft 2 framerates. Since you have a BE cpu, overclock the crap out of it and you should see some improvement. Also, what resoluiton are you running at? if 1920x1080 you should definitely turn off AA and possibly upgrade your gfx card.
February 22, 2011 4:39:44 PM

I'm running it at 1440x900 and my cpu is a phonom x4 quad core but its two years old I guess its not enough? :( 

this is my cpu http://products.amd.com/en-ca/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=...

thanks for all the feedback guys I'll turn off AA for the time being and I'll consider getting a new cpu. For the time being I don't need to upgrade the graphics card right?
February 22, 2011 5:39:39 PM

your card is fine.. though i am not one to waste money on the current just so it drops ~$100 in the next year or so.
I run a 955BE and an XfX5770 and my system is not "ghetto". I don't play COD B.O. as i had it for PS3 and dumped it the next day. MP it terrible.. anyway.. i can also run some AA but i really don't care for it. Most recent Blizz games like Starcraft 2 and WoW etc are CPU intensive. I run WoW and peg 60fps most the time unless you have 1000 other ppl close by. I run at 1680x1050..
February 22, 2011 7:26:20 PM

You mean $40. Which is very typical for moving up a tier. It's never much more than that to upgrade.

cheapest 460: 158.49 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

cheapest 5770: 118.99 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Now, if you were looking at an expensive 5770 (up to $190 or so) then I'd agree.

But then for $200 you can get a 5850. $220 for a 6870. $245 for a 6950. $250 for a 560 or a 470.

And yeah you can use AA in plenty of games on a 5770 just read the reviews. Fallout 3 with 8x AA runs at 60fps http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-5770-review-tes...

And the games that can't handle AA don't generally need it anyway. Crysis for example looks great without it. So does SC2.
February 22, 2011 9:43:02 PM

Dude, I never said a 460 isn't a good buy. It is, and it has been ever since it was released. But the OP doesn't have a 460. He has a 5770. And that is a decent card, especially at 1440x900 resolution. I wouldn't use one at 1080p, but that isn't the case anyway!

But hey congrats on finding a super cheap 460. Maybe people putting a new PC together will appreciate that.

You should really work on your behaviour though. Calling people retarded left and right isn't going to get you anywhere. Also dismissing people's opinions on subjective matter (ie: graphics/importance of AA) is nothing short of being a huge douche.
February 22, 2011 10:55:38 PM

minitron815 said:
Buy a new video card and processor. Your system is ghetto, why would you think you can run anti-aliasing?


I do not understand why people post meaningless just to post. I have a core 2 duo E6750 OC to 3.4Ghz and a 5770 and 2gb of RAM and i can run all cod modern warfare at 1920x1080 with max settings and max AA and i get 30-60(30 plus something was the lowest i got in cod6, in cod4 never got that low) fps with v-sink on and more with it off, Mass effect 2 all times above 50 90% of the game around 60, also fallout 3 maxed out with above 30fps. New vegas and cod black ops have frame rates problems, not consistent on all video cards. Click on my signature and see the results in games.

Try using other drivers for your 5770. I hope you are not using the ones that ware on the CD. Also your CPU might slow down your video card. If your CPU is a black edition overclock it if possible to at list 3Ghz. if not as someone else suggested a new CPU might give you a better performance.
Try the driver stuff first, erase all drivers from your PC, restart and after that install the new ones for the 5770.
February 22, 2011 11:29:53 PM

"I do not understand why people post meaningless just to post. I have a core 2 duo E6750 OC to 3.4Ghz and a 5770 and 2gb of RAM and i can run all cod modern warfare at 1920x1080 with max settings and max AA and i get 30-60(30 plus something was the lowest i got in cod6, in cod4 never got that low) fps with v-sink on and more with it off, Mass effect 2 all times above 50 90% of the game around 60, also fallout 3 maxed out with above 30fps. New vegas and cod black ops have frame rates problems, not consistent on all video cards. Click on my signature and see the results in games. "

You admit to getting 30 fps in MW2 which isn't hard on your GPU in any way shape or form. More proof the HD 5770 is absolute garbage. Your other example is a game originally developed for the 360 and ported over and you still don't get max fps (and you don't say if you're using AA/AF).
February 23, 2011 12:18:31 AM

minitron815 said:
"I do not understand why people post meaningless just to post. I have a core 2 duo E6750 OC to 3.4Ghz and a 5770 and 2gb of RAM and i can run all cod modern warfare at 1920x1080 with max settings and max AA and i get 30-60(30 plus something was the lowest i got in cod6, in cod4 never got that low) fps with v-sink on and more with it off, Mass effect 2 all times above 50 90% of the game around 60, also fallout 3 maxed out with above 30fps. New vegas and cod black ops have frame rates problems, not consistent on all video cards. Click on my signature and see the results in games. "

You admit to getting 30 fps in MW2 which isn't hard on your GPU in any way shape or form. More proof the HD 5770 is absolute garbage. Your other example is a game originally developed for the 360 and ported over and you still don't get max fps (and you don't say if you're using AA/AF).


He admits to getting 30 as the absolute lowest which is perfectly acceptable for a 5770 at 1080p. Let me reiterate for the third time that the OP is at 1440x900, as in WAY LESS DEMANDING.

Also, you don't know when they bought their cards. Prices have come down a lot. My 5850s are available for almost $100 less now, not even one year later. The 5770 used to be around $150 while the 460 was closer to $225. So what the *** do you know? I'd bet the OP and two others with 5770s didn't buy them in the last 4 months. Clearly the 460 is the better deal right now, and at ~$150 would be my recommendation right now. If someone's budget is around $200 tho I'd recommend a 5850 or 6870, then either a 560 or 6950 depending on what the person wants (eyefinity vs 3D), or for a little less the 470.

Point is, you're being a prick about nothing. This thread is about helping a fellow gamer get the most out of his system. Large FPS drop is usually not the cause of a GPU but of CPU or possibly HDD depending on situation (ie: loading a new area, lots of NPCs or what have you). So to the OP, I'll state again I think the biggest problem right now is the first gen Phenom CPU. If the motherboard supports it, a Phenom II would be great and down the road upgrading to an AM3 board and DDR3 RAM would be a nice improvement. Later if you (the OP) want to buy a nice big 1080p or better monitor, then I would definitely say it's time to get a better GPU as well (or maybe crossfire 5770s which performs decently).

Also, don't be afraid to try overclocking. Especially if you're thinking of upgrading anyway, it's worth a shot as you can get a decent performance increase.
February 23, 2011 2:58:28 AM

thats strange.I maxed out the black ops at 1680X1050 with 72 fps average and star crat 2 at 4XAA everything maxed at 51fps average.My GPU is a MSI Geforce GTX 260 Twin Frozr superclocked.Though my processor is a core i7 870 so taht may explain it.
February 24, 2011 6:47:09 AM

Thanks for all the replies guys. I'm sorry if I caused a war in this thread. Thanks to all the feedback I'm alot more confident about my graphics card now its exactly what I wanted for my current needs not looking for anything at 1080p. I noticed something on my computer recently things are taking more time to load and my HDD's red light keeps blinking for longer times than usual. Can that be causing the problem? Should I get a new HDD? It's a western Digital 500gb at 7200 rpm. I defragmented it but that didn't fix it.
February 24, 2011 7:52:04 AM

You also might have a virus or ten. If you remember, when you have a fresh copy of windows does it work a lot faster?
Did you try that driver thing? I still do not understand how can you get fewer fps with the 5770.
February 24, 2011 1:45:52 PM

Also, how full is the HDD? If it's more than 70% then it's definitely a lot slower than when it was new. If that's the case you should consider getting a second HDD
February 24, 2011 2:44:01 PM

I'd say its 90% full. I'll get a new HDD then. btw the graphics card brand is vtx3d..is it a bad brand? Does also factor in to the problem? or maybe its less powerful than xfx and sapphire?
February 24, 2011 3:06:49 PM

Brand won't really affect performance, unless you're looking at factory overclocked cards. The biggest difference with brands is usually the quality of cooling you get with the card.
August 16, 2011 12:29:41 AM

minitron815 said:
"I do not understand why people post meaningless just to post. I have a core 2 duo E6750 OC to 3.4Ghz and a 5770 and 2gb of RAM and i can run all cod modern warfare at 1920x1080 with max settings and max AA and i get 30-60(30 plus something was the lowest i got in cod6, in cod4 never got that low) fps with v-sink on and more with it off, Mass effect 2 all times above 50 90% of the game around 60, also fallout 3 maxed out with above 30fps. New vegas and cod black ops have frame rates problems, not consistent on all video cards. Click on my signature and see the results in games. "

You admit to getting 30 fps in MW2 which isn't hard on your GPU in any way shape or form. More proof the HD 5770 is absolute garbage. Your other example is a game originally developed for the 360 and ported over and you still don't get max fps (and you don't say if you're using AA/AF).

Just for the record the CPU does make a pretty big difference in a lot of games (at least for me)...my i7-930 (HT on) @4GHz with my Sapphire Vapor-X 5770 (OC to 950/1340) gives me average 91fps in MW2 1080p with a lowest of around 40 in smokey, intensive areas (this is maxed with 4xAA), CoD4 is even higher, at 98fps average (also 4xAA), black ops is a little lower at 83fps average (again, 4xAA), btw I force 16xAF through CCC. Battlefield Bad Company 2 gives me 54 average at 1080p 4xAA 16xAF Crysis 1080p with very high settings (except high shaders and post-processing) gives me 32 average which I think is really good (no AA though)!!! If I decide to play crysis at 1440x900 (just tried earlier) I average 45+fps at very high 2xAA settings...
The 5770 does not suck...!
August 16, 2011 12:33:39 AM

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