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May 1, 2011 2:10:32 AM

Hi, this is my first post in this forum. I was referred by a friend to come to this forum with any questions/concerns about computers. I appreciate the help in advance.

Approximate purchase date: Need to order parts Today/Tomorrow.

Budget: Like to keep it under $1000 for the most part

System usage in no particular order: Watching movies/shows, games, music recording/editing/listening, surfing web, etc.

Location: Illinois

Overclocking: Maybe

Crossfire: Maybe in the future

Monitor resolutions (2): SAMSUNG 24in LCD -> 1920x1080, Dell 19in LCD -> 1440x900

I'm building a new rig since my psu just died on my current rig that I've been using for the past 5 years. And I thought that this was the perfect time for a new rig. I've been doing some research on this forum and have been searching topics and each part/hardware. I don't know a lot about computers and this would be the first rig that I build by myself so I'm excited but nervous also of the result. As of right now, I have picked out each part and just wanted some verification and feedback on whether all the parts would correctly work together and/or better suggestions for parts.

Parts I already have/don't need:

Samsung 2494HM 24in 1080p LCD monitor

Dell 19in LCD monitor

Razer Lycosa keyboard

Raer Deathadder mouse

Logitech Z-2300 200W RMS 2.1 speakers

Antec 900 case

Samsung 1TB SATA hdd

Samsung DVD-RW drive x16 (i think)



Parts I chose out for the new rig:

Intel Core i5-2500k 3.3GHz LGA 1155 95W cpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus cpu cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock P67 EXTREME4 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR HX SERIES CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G. SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 X 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1866 ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HIS Radeon HD 6870 1GB 250-bit GDDR5 PCI-E 2.1 x16 gpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3Gb/s 3.5" hdd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


As of right now, all the parts are gona be bought from Newegg I think unless there are better vendors suggested. I might take a trip to Fry's to check if they have cheaper prices because they usually have the best deals for most electronics, computers, parts, etc. Again, I appreciate any and all help. Thanks guys!

Byron
May 1, 2011 3:32:14 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $464.98 $20.00 Mail In Rebates
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... $184.98 $10.00 Mail In Rebates
CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=s9_simh... $29.51 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1
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May 1, 2011 7:19:24 AM

Thanks Why_Me. About the GPU, I've always been a fan of ATI and have grown comfortable to using them and the software. Is the GTX 560 significantly better then the one I suggested? And would it be worth buying over the HD6870 with the GTX 560 being $50 more expensive?
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May 1, 2011 7:35:23 AM

The 560 is defiantly a great card, if you don't plan to overclock though, you'd be better off with a 6950 2GB since the prices are so close. At your resolution, you should defiantly pay a little more and go with the 6950 2GB/1GB.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Review PowerColor 6950 2GB PCS++:
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1107/pg15/powerco...
This isn't the review for the 1GB model, but the temp/dba/overclock test can be brought over. Here's is the actual 1GB model review:
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
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May 1, 2011 7:39:57 AM

kpark1989 said:
Thanks Why_Me. About the GPU, I've always been a fan of ATI and have grown comfortable to using them and the software. Is the GTX 560 significantly better then the one I suggested? And would it be worth buying over the HD6870 with the GTX 560 being $50 more expensive?

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_gtx560_twin... <---- That 560 mops the floor with it.
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May 1, 2011 12:50:06 PM

Do i see 2 screens and can i assume you use both?

I was under the impression you had to SLI nVidia cards to use more than one screen.
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May 1, 2011 6:44:09 PM

@Why_Me
The 560 defiantly doesn't mop floor with the 6950 which is @ its price range.
6950 1GB vs 560 Ti
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/331?vs=330
In hi-res gaming the 6950 is a better choice, the 560 Ti does win in certain areas, but those are mainly in games favoring Nvidia cards. IE HAWX and Civ 5
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May 1, 2011 9:31:12 PM

metal orient said:
Do i see 2 screens and can i assume you use both?

I was under the impression you had to SLI nVidia cards to use more than one screen.


Yes, 2 monitors and have been running dual monitor for about 2 years with no problems on a ATI Radeon 1650x pro which is a very old video card.

Also, in terms of the CPU cooler, I looked into the Scythe SCMG-2100 (a.k.a. Scythe Mugen I believe?) and since the heat sinc on it is about double the Cooler Master Hyper 212, I'm assuming it offers better heat distribution with more surface area.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power supply-wise, I'm wondering if the 750HX is a good choice, or maybe I should go 800-850watts just to play it safe. My current rig which the PSU burned out was a Antec 750w continuous gaming PSU, and it burned out while I was just web browsing.

Graphics card-wise, will the HD6870 be more then enough to play most games on max res? And I'm guessing dual monitoring wouldn't be a problem with my SAMSUNG 24in LCD hooked up by HDMI and the DELL 19in LCD by vga.

In terms of memory/ram, I've been reading that with the i5 build, 1600 is a better fit then 1866? I thought the numbers were for speed?

If you guys could please help with these questions, I would really appreciate it. Thanks again.


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May 1, 2011 10:22:34 PM

SCMG2100 give about 6 degrees better is what i was told, but is quieter.

I think a 750W may be enough, i would wait for someone else to back it up though.

I'd say yes, you can max with the 6870, however i don't know what you're second screen would do to these results:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290?vs=331

Price/performance wise maybe but i wouldn't have thought slower RAM would be better.
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May 1, 2011 10:56:21 PM

Wait for stock and get this to save yourself some money, they'll perform the same but the XFX is cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for the 6870, I strongly suggest the 6950. My 5850 OC'd to 1000/1200 (Which basically makes it a 5870) struggles to keep up with Bad Company 2 sometimes, course I've maxed out AA and AF so that may be where the issue lies. Just in high res the 6950 is a better choice.

1333 to 1600 to 1866. There will be no noticeable difference. Your better off getting ram at the cheapest price for that amount of memory. (4GB 40$, 8GB 80$).
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May 1, 2011 11:51:34 PM

To answer ya question about relative performance, Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$155.00 6850 (371/634) $0.42 - $0.49
$190.00 6870 (434/701) $0.44 - $0.54
$250.00 6950 (479/751) $0.52 - $0.67
$285.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $0.59 - $0.75
$240.00 560 Ti (455/792) $0.53 - $0.61
$335.00 6970 (526/825) $0.64 - $0.81
$245.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $0.46 - $0.53

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Scythe Mugen 2 SCMG 2100 has a 7C advantage over the 212 making the $5 investment a good choice.

I'm don't use Asrock in any of my builds as I find the manufacturer's failure to provide a industry standard 3 year warranty problematic. When reviewing benchmarks, check to see the default BCLK on the Asrock boards.....seen a few reviews where it's been tweaked to 100.4 which will produce artificially inflated results if not corrected.

Save $10 w/ the XFX Black PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
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This unit combines utterly amazing voltage regulation with outstanding efficiency and just about the best ripple and noise suppression I have ever seen. And it does it all silently, too, because I sure couldn't hear that fan at any time. Even in the hot box. I almost wish I could hand out better than a perfect score, but I can't so I won't. 10.


RAM Options:

DDR3-1600
$88 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$79 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DDR3-1866
$119 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 1, 2011 11:59:11 PM

And yet the 6950 1GB still beats the 560 Ti in higher resolutions.
560 Ti vs 6950 1GB
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330?vs=331
Both around the same price, the 6950 1GB still wins out @ higher resolutions with the exception of Nvidia favoring games (HAWX & Civ5).
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May 2, 2011 8:31:51 AM

Thanks for the replies guys! Just wondering. If the 1333, 1600, and 1866 RAM have no noticeable difference, what's the point of the numbers? Why would the companies make such products? Just making sure before I choose to go with 1600 and regret not buying the 1866 for a few bucks more.

For the video card, is the 6870's 434fps (total fps from the games in the test) significantly worse/different then the 6950's 479fps? Honestly, I'm not a huge gamer at all so graphics on games aren't a HUGE deal for me. If I can play most games without lag at close-to-max settings and watch 1080p videos without any kind of lag/problems while running dual-monitor, I'd be very happy considering I'm running dual on a x1650 pro right now and watching 1080p movies are SUCH a pain because of the lag. And also, video cards' prices always go down within a few months so I could always sell this one later and upgrade or go crossfire. I'd rather have good/solid hardware for other parts like the cpu, mobo, psu, and ram. However, if I will see a significant difference in performance with the 6950 (mind you, I'm not a mainstream gamer or graphics guru), I will definitely take the advice to purchase it. Thanks again guys.


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May 2, 2011 11:34:44 PM

I would strongly suggest the 6950 as it is better in hi-def but also better in dual-monitor. So my suggestion is taking the 6950 route.

As for ram, 1333 is good enough, 1600 is a plus if you can get it at the same price. 1866 is just assured to be more money than the 1333 or 1600. 1866 is unnecessary and you won't notice the difference.
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May 2, 2011 11:57:54 PM

Well I did recommend this prior: PowerColor 6950 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's actually extremely quiet, in fact here is the review for it.
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

As for the memory, P67/H67/H61 doesn't require low latency or voltages to have better performance in multi monitor. It is mainly the GPU. Since your editing I do recommend 8 gigs just because the creation times will be much faster. IE Rendering.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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May 3, 2011 12:25:21 AM

Wrong, cannot be changed to a 6970. Only reference design PCB/Cooler 6950 2GBs are unlockable to a 6970. The best you can do with that twin frozr III (Hawk) is hope you can overclock it to the limit.
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May 8, 2011 2:50:29 AM

Best answer selected by kpark1989.
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