New gaming/enthusiast pc build. Advices?

Nightlane

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Hello!

I am new by here (first post, I guess :p). Hi!!

I am looking to buy a new computer and I have been selecting some parts. I need to know if I am doing any big mistake with the selection :p



Approximate Purchase Date: this week or next
Budget Range: like 2000€... but this could change :p

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, 3d, coding and development, a lot of tabs
Parts Not Required: keyboard, monitor (have already a g15 and a aw2310)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: spanish sites, so do not worry about that. The shop I am looking is www.pccomponentes.com (in spanish)
Country of Origin: Spain

Parts Preferences: 1155? :)
Overclocking: Yes
SLI or Crossfire: Yes
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 120hz (for 3D)

Additional Comments: Already buy an gtx480, so in the new pc I will get another and set them in sli. Will add homemade water cooling at future :p



The current part selection. Please review it. It have reason of selection (could be wrong :p)

CPU: 2600K 1155 i7. Can get further than 2500K. Less stress at lesser OC. Multitasking (like
CPU cooler: Prolimatech genesys. It appears to be the best air cooler. No fans included.
CPU cooler fans: hmmm... Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120x120mm 5400rpm ???????????????????

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X DDR3 2133 PC3-17000 8GB 2x4GB CL9. Can get further than lower timmings models. Less stress at same timmings. I am thinking about getting 4 x 4gb... hmmmm...

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX480 Windforce3 1536MB GDDR5 to get an sli with the one submodel SOC I have (I will equal timings for that, I cannot buy another SOC because the SOC one is out of stock in the online shop I am looking :( ).

Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Professional B3. Appers to be good for the budget. Am I right to select this one?????

Case: Bitfenix Colossus Venom black with red/green leds. It is cool. I have selected it without window. Top and front 230x230 (cms) fans, 120 or 140 botton and read fans. Water cooling openings, holes for wires and handling of the backpanel of the cpu cooler.
Case fans: Hmmmmmm... any suggestion???

Fans controller: (like an addon, not included in price stimations ;P). T-Balancer

Power supply: Corsair AX1200 1200W Modular. 89 up to 92% efficiency. Any suggestion?

SO: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64bits OEM Service Pack 1



The other components:
SO and boot harddrive: OCZ Vertex 2 SATA II 2.5" SSD 60GB (I have already another, so RAID 0).
Mass storage: Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB SATA3 64MB. Just good looking... any suggestion? :)
Dvd recorder/reader: LG GH22NS50 DVD SATA 22X Black OEM... just anyone... :p hmmm
Sound card: Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series. Cool...... :)




Please. How do you see this?


Thanks you very much!!!




 
HDD one of those
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/1.5tb-hdd-caviar,2331.html
or
http://www.pccomponentes.com/samsung_spinpoint_f4eg_2tb_sata2_32mb_maestro.html

RAM
http://www.pccomponentes.com/g_skill_ripjaws_x_ddr3_1600_pc3_12800_8gb_2x4gb_cl8.html
All the RAM will work at 1333 anyway unless you OC it but OCing the RAM on the 1155 is tricky. Anyway, lower latencies matter more.
With your budget you should wait for the next LGA 2011 enthusiast Intel socket. Also the AMD Bulldozer is scheduled in June.

Cooler
http://www.pccomponentes.com/thermalright_archon_cpu_cooler.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/thermalright-archon.html
Or the older
http://www.pccomponentes.com/noctua_nh_d14.html

I wouldn't buy another GTX 480. Use yours for a while, the new AMD 7 series should be available in the summer. Or sell it and get a couple of newer cards but for your resolution a single GTX 480 should be fine for now.


 

Nightlane

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Oh, I had appreciated that a memory part with an higher frecuency (OC) its timmings usually need to be incremented. I was thinking that the opposite was true: an 2133 cl9 part could be underclocked with better timmings than cl9. :p


Hmmm... I am frightened about waiting to the next year to get that LGA 2011 and to see "next year you will have a soberb new cpu generation and your cpu will sucks completely" :p.


Hmmm... I have just readed something about that Amd Bulldozer... hmmm. Hmmmm.
About lga 2012, I was thinking that that will arrive next year... and ivy bridge (22nn) at last part of this year... :S. Hmmm... I am not wishing to pay more than 300€ for a chip :S


Nevertheless I can wait, yes. :)




I, reading forums and the liked thought that:
For common or light to medium OC use: genesys > archon > d14.
For extreme OC: genesys > d14 > archon

:p



Hmmm.

Wait then!

 
MoBo / CPU - I wouldn't do a build w/ a MoBo that only offers a 2 year warranty. The Asus P8P67 Pro or the Gigabyte UD4 are the best choices at that level. If ya want something more robust, the Sabertooth and the equivalent board from MSI offer 5 year warrantees. Ready to spring for x16 x16 GFX bandwidth, the Asus WS Revolution and the Gigabyte UD7 are the main contenders but the competition isn't very close:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/p67-motherboard-roundup-lga-1155-sandy-bridge,2837.html
http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-sabertooth-p67-tuf-review/
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3795/asus_p8p67_ws_revolution_intel_p67_express_motherboard/index.html

CPU - 2600k is the king of the hill and generally OC's a bit higher....2500k runs 7C cooler at 4.8 GHz. Grab the 2600 is ya have the budget and it would appear that you do....use the BIOS's profile feature for a 4.4 Ghz OC for "everyday" use and a 4.8 GHz profile for extreme gaming w/ HT turned off to keep the temps down.

Cooler - Genesys looks like it will be great cooler .... not yet released here in the states. Best I have seen so far is the Thermalright Silver Arrow and Archon but as the reviewer says here, it's way way more cooler than is necessary for SB.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=674&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=5

I think the Silver Arrow represents the ultimate air cooler than can be built and still fit within the constraints of an ATX motherboard and a standard computer case..... It's almost ironic that coolers like this are becoming available just as processors transition to designs that may ultimately render them unnecessary; even overclocked to 5GHz, an Intel Sandy Bridge 2600K doesn't need anywhere near this level of cooling. Still, it wouldn't hurt, and as I noted earlier, there are still CPUs out there that can benefit from it.

With this kind of performance from air and CPU thermals continually getting better, methinks water cooling has seen its day.

Case is mostly an aesthetic choice .... from a builder's perspective, I like the DF-85 and HAF-X. The DF-85 w/ the CP-1000 would be nice for twin 480's....no need for a fan controller as fan control is built in already.

PSU - 1200 watts is a little big for your build....twin 480's needs a 900 watter
http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_build_psu.html

HD in a typical system, I'd suggest the Seagate 7200.12, WD Black or Spinpoint F3 .... neither is the overall winner but each excels in certain areas...pick which one best suits ya needs.

[http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-3.5-desktop-hard-drive-charts/compare,1016.html?prod[2777]=on&prod[3016]=on&prod[2365]=on]

However w/ your budget, I'd step up to the Barracuda XT

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=708&Itemid=60&limit=1&limitstart=10
For a hard drive, the Barracuda XT series offers the best performance available from a 7200 RPM mechanical storage device.

Optical - W/ your budget, I'd at least wanna be able to watch BR movies, the Plextor 320-SA is a well proven performer.

SSD - vertex 3 hands down.



 

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Thanks you very much :)

I will analize all. Almost sure than I wait until a new cpu generation (bulldozer, 22nn or lga 2011) arrives.