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July 30, 2011 6:10:21 AM

Hello, I've never posted here before, but I'm asking around..

This is the last variable in my power surge issue. Could it be both?

Every part from my rig seems functional. The PSU was shot for sure, but I had a chance to swap the RAM/video card to a friend's computer to verify they were still working.

What confused me was when I bought a new PSU - the computer booted into Windows fine, but no programs would open due to a "compatibility issue" and would crash shortly after attempting to open anything. Blue screens, PAGE_FAULT, IRQL_NOT_LESS, etc. Ubuntu would load up perfectly, though it refused to accept an internet connection and eventually froze once or twice, but was fine for the most part.

The Windows install was pretty much screwed when I popped this HDD into my friend's rig. In his rig, though, Ubuntu picked up my internet on its own and I was able to browse the web fine for a few hours. No Windows disc to reinstall with, but yes.

As far as I can see there is no physical damage to the board. It POSTs successfully whenever I boot, so there's that. Is there anything defining here that suggests a failing CPU over the motherboard? I assumed it was the board and already ordered a new one

May be worth noting my friend's HDD (also with Win7) was only able to consitently get to the Windows loading screen. PC rebooted each time without fail.

Occasionally it only POSTs if I force it to via pressing tab at the mobo logo screen. Ubuntu has failed to boot now several times. With both sticks of RAM removed, there is no beeping - PC shuts itself off.

Ubuntu boots intermittently - either it will or it won't. It booted once in a weird color scheme, gave me a GNOME power management error, and promptly froze.

Also noticed without ram and VGA, all my case lights blink in half second intervals, but there is no audible beep. So it seems the motherboard recognizes it's missing things. BIOS seems to be accessible.

Any help is very much appreciated.

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July 30, 2011 6:30:26 AM

- PAGE_FAULT, IRQL_NOT_LESS usually wrong driver VGA, How old is your video card? are it's drivers updated?
- swapping RAM and also test your RAM with memtest86+ : http://www.memtest86.com/
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July 30, 2011 7:48:04 AM

Remove mains cable, pull the cmos battery for 5 minutes and the boot in to bios and load defaults.

Now when W7 is about to load, hit F8 and start in safe mode, if you get to desktop, good chance hardware ok and W7 just needs reinstalling.
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July 30, 2011 8:00:25 AM

The ram and vga are confirmed working in a friend's PC; I gamed with them for a few hours.

My Windows install is screwed as I attempted to simply reformat and it kept giving me errors mid-install.

Will attempt CMOS.
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July 30, 2011 8:46:09 AM

Removed the battery; I placed it back in and loaded with 'optimized defaults'. Is this correct?

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July 30, 2011 10:48:06 AM

Right now Iḿ posting from my rig on Ubuntu. My ethernet port seems shot; Íḿ using a wireless card right now. So far, so good - things are updating and no crashes yet. Iḿ still skeptical. Iĺl be attempting a Win7 install with a different disk tomorrow, since this one seems horribly smudged and scratched.

As far as the ethernet port is concerned, a solid orange light stays on regardless of whether or not a cord is inserted.

Anyway, memtest gave me one pass and I decided to back out for now.

Only thing still weirding me out is that ubuntu occasionally boots into its terminal mode without warning and I can´t do anything, but other than that..
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July 31, 2011 5:54:25 AM

New disc worked; I am in Windows, the install went off without a hitch. It did blue screen once as I was extracting files to my desktop from a thumb drive, but I've installed a lot of programs since then and... everything is alright. *crosses fingers*

Still nervous, so I'll be updating.

What do you suppose caused the blue screen?
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July 31, 2011 6:09:46 AM

Update; after updating vga drivers, downloading chipsets and such, and rebooting - at the Windows loading screen the computer rebooted and attributed this to new hardware or drivers, etc. Not a blue screen.

Still wary - someone quell these fears.
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July 31, 2011 7:03:58 AM

League of Legends installed with some kind of error and told me to contact my software admin, but I played anyway; the game crashed three times and I finally received a blue screen pertaining to dgmm.sys or some such. Microsoft details:

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 1000007e
BCP1: FFFFFFFFC0000005
BCP2: FFFFF88003A20CF7
BCP3: FFFFF880057C1668
BCP4: FFFFF880057C0EC0
OS Version: 6_1_7601
Service Pack: 1_0
Product: 256_1

Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\073111-23930-01.dmp
C:\Windows\Temp\WER-31215-0.sysdata.xml

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C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt
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July 31, 2011 8:24:00 AM

Would you try vga in other pc ? And try use old you ram (1333)
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July 31, 2011 5:38:10 PM

I have used both sticks of RAM in a friend's PC and gamed for a few hours with them.

VGA I popped in and booted up with but didn't really test much further. I can try that I suppose but he is an nvidia user sadly, it'd take some tweaking.

Just got another blue screen viewing a video online.. (edit: no idea why it hyperlinks that)

Anyway, going to run memtest while I'm gone this afternoon.

Edit 2: Blue screen during an installation.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 1a
BCP1: 0000000000041287
BCP2: 0000000000000030
BCP3: 0000000000000000
BCP4: 0000000000000000
OS Version: 6_1_7601
Service Pack: 1_0
Product: 256_1

Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\073111-19250-01.dmp
C:\Users\Ryan\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-29140-0.sysdata.xml

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C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt

Edit 3:

Alright, so here's what happened now.
Catalyst control center just crashed;
Description:
Stopped working

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: CCC.exe
Application Version: 3.5.0.0
Application Timestamp: 4ca242ed
Fault Module Name: mscorwks.dll
Fault Module Version: 2.0.50727.5446
Fault Module Timestamp: 4d8cdb54
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 00000000001a679b
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033

Then directly after, Firefox crashed. Following that my wireless LAN card malfunctioned and I lost the ability to right-click my connection settings. Then, Desktop Window Manager crashed.
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Dwm.exe
Application Version: 6.1.7600.16385
Application Timestamp: 4a5bc541
Fault Module Name: dwmcore.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.17514
Fault Module Timestamp: 4ce7c62d
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0000000000011f02
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0abb
Additional Information 2: 0abb3250df5408d7dfbdd163477c0b76
Additional Information 3: 0b4c
Additional Information 4: 0b4c82278124ac22e40e4322f58840b1

For what it's worth, here's the log from Event Viewer pertaining to my most recent BSOD.
The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000001a (0x0000000000041287, 0x0000000000000030, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 073111-19250-01.

What does this sound like to you guys?
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August 1, 2011 2:53:08 AM

Testing folding@home for GPU memory ended with a blue screen while I was gone during the day. I have no idea when the crash actually occurred. According to event viewer, the system blue screened about an hour after folding began its scan, and crashed about six more times over the seven hours I was gone. The errors generally read as such:

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000003b (0x00000000c0000005, 0xfffff80002d7248b, 0xfffff880046c6b50, 0x0000000000000000). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 073111-16832-01.

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x00000019 (0x0000000000000022, 0xfffffa8001e20000, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: 073111-16177-01.

I am beyond confused and would appreciate a sense of direction.
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August 1, 2011 2:59:25 AM

- 0x0000003B. is The SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION bug check This error has been linked to excessive paged pool usage and may occur due to user-mode graphics drivers crossing over and passing bad data to the kernel code.

- 2nd error: Stop: 0x00000019: BAD_POOL_HEADER
The 2nd on from my research indicated some sort of problem in the NTSF file system. And all the solutions other forums and sites that discuss this error are solutions that can only be done with Windows installed or clean install use clean RAM from Error ( pass memtest ) also CD master no corruption

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August 1, 2011 3:07:24 AM

Thanks for responding! I am attempting to completely remove my GPU drivers and start fresh, having problems finding driversweeper anywhere.

As far as the second one is concerned I have a Windows install CD, just freshly installed on a clean partition; the stick of RAM I have in has made a few passes in memtest actually.
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August 1, 2011 4:07:16 AM

As of now I've driver sweeped my GPU and reinstalled, and totally updated my chipset, as well as installed 35 or so Windows updates I'd neglected. I'll see what happens.
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August 2, 2011 5:50:33 PM

I've had a great amount of BSODs in the past few days, more than this build has ever seen.


080211-23306-01.dmp 8/2/2011 3:48:37 AM IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL 0x0000000a fffff6fb`7f01c7d0 00000000`00000002 00000000`00000000 fffff800`02d2940b ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+7fd00 NT Kernel & System Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Microsoft Corporation 6.1.7601.17592 (win7sp1_gdr.110408-1631) x64 ntoskrnl.exe+7fd00 C:\Windows\Minidump\080211-23306-01.dmp 2 15 7601 274,584


080211-19640-01.dmp 8/2/2011 4:06:18 AM SPECIAL_POOL_DETECTED_MEMORY_CORRUPTION 0x000000c1 18016198`00000000 00000000`01000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000081 ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+7fd00 NT Kernel & System Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Microsoft Corporation 6.1.7601.17592 (win7sp1_gdr.110408-1631) x64 ntoskrnl.exe+7fd00 C:\Windows\Minidump\080211-19640-01.dmp 2 15 7601 274,584


080211-20779-01.dmp 8/2/2011 4:08:03 AM PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA 0x00000050 fffff800`032d28a0 00000000`00000001 fffff800`02facf42 00000000`00000000 ntoskrnl.exe ntoskrnl.exe+7fd00 NT Kernel & System Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Microsoft Corporation 6.1.7601.17592 (win7sp1_gdr.110408-1631) x64 ntoskrnl.exe+7fd00 C:\Windows\Minidump\080211-20779-01.dmp 2 15 7601 274,584


080211-19188-01.dmp 8/2/2011 4:15:12 AM KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED 0x0000001e ffffffff`c000001d fffff880`045041c0 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 tcpip.sys tcpip.sys+1a7c68 x64 ntoskrnl.exe+7fd00 C:\Windows\Minidump\080211-19188-01.dmp 2 15 7601 274,584


Also, Arkham Asylum refuses to launch due to .net Framework issues. I have never had these sorts of problems until the power surge. Memtest was set to run all night; I woke up to find the Windows login screen.
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August 2, 2011 6:18:02 PM

I think you have bad hdd , please check your hdd. you did anything fresh install, hmmmm seem big trouble about consistensi HDD, try other use other cable HDD and try another port .
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August 3, 2011 2:30:34 AM

A few chkdsks suggest everything is okay with the HDD, but beyond that I don't know. I have one stick of RAM in a different slot and this has been the longest since a crash since my install. I'll see what happens.
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August 5, 2011 12:32:18 AM

Balls. Almost three whole days without a BSOD, and it's been four since memory management.

MEMORY_MANAGEMENT 0x0000001a 00000000`00000411 fffff6fc`50016970 99100000`7893c882 fffff6fc`ff016971

so this sounds like a bad stick, or I've got two assuredly bad ram slots.. why do you think it's a bad HDD?
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August 5, 2011 1:06:54 AM

your problem very complete and very very big trouble, im's sorry can help too much: Bad Ram or hmmm Worst case scenario you could have a bad IMC memory controller on your cpu. Had the exact same random bsod's of frustation.
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