First time home build gaming pc (uk)

[heavysoul]

Hello all,

i too am thinking of having a go at building a pc for gaming, it will be the first time and am a bit out of my depth but what the hell.

ive got a list of parts im considering and a few questions:
1) would all components work together?
2) would it need any extra cooling, if so what sort?
3) how well do you think it would run arma 2?

Here goes any help/suggestions or advice will be greatly appreciated thanks, by the way the parts ive been looking at are from scan.co.uk im open to suggestions on that too


Processor: - Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40 GHz, Sandy Bridge,1155, Qd Core, GPU 850Mhz, 8MB Cache, 95W (BX80623I72600K)

Memory: - - 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair XMS3 DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-27, 1.65V (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9

Harddrive: 1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9ms, NCQ

Case: CC700D - Corsair Obsidian Series 700D, Black, Alu Front Panel, Full Tower Case, 3 x 140mm fans, w/o PSU

Power Supply: 1050W Powercool PC-1050AUBA, 80 PLUS, SLI/CrossFire, 120mm Silent Fan, Quad 12V Rails

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4, Intel P55 Express, S1156, DDR3 2200, SATA II & III, USB 3.0, RAID, ATX

Graphic card: GV-N590D5-3GD-B - 3GB Gigabyte GTX 590, 40nm, 3414MHz GDDR5, GPU 607MHz, Shader 1215MHz, 1024 Cores

Windows 7 64 bit

Thanks again

 

[Silvune]

Hello all,

i too am thinking of having a go at building a pc for gaming, it will be the first time and am a bit out of my depth but what the hell.

ive got a list of parts im considering and a few questions:
1) would all components work together?
2) would it need any extra cooling, if so what sort?
3) how well do you think it would run arma 2?

Here goes any help/suggestions or advice will be greatly appreciated thanks, by the way the parts ive been looking at are from scan.co.uk im open to suggestions on that too


Processor: - Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40 GHz, Sandy Bridge,1155, Qd Core, GPU 850Mhz, 8MB Cache, 95W (BX80623I72600K)

Memory: - - 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair XMS3 DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-27, 1.65V (CMX8GX3M2A1600C9

Harddrive: 1TB Samsung HD103SJ Spinpoint F3, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9ms, NCQ

Case: CC700D - Corsair Obsidian Series 700D, Black, Alu Front Panel, Full Tower Case, 3 x 140mm fans, w/o PSU

Power Supply: 1050W Powercool PC-1050AUBA, 80 PLUS, SLI/CrossFire, 120mm Silent Fan, Quad 12V Rails

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4, Intel P55 Express, S1156, DDR3 2200, SATA II & III, USB 3.0, RAID, ATX

Graphic card: GV-N590D5-3GD-B - 3GB Gigabyte GTX 590, 40nm, 3414MHz GDDR5, GPU 607MHz, Shader 1215MHz, 1024 Cores

Windows 7 64 bit

Thanks again

Gaming PCs do not benefit from hyperthreading so I think you should save yourself the money and get the i5-2500K.

Again, gaming PCs do not need or gain anything from having 8GB of RAM, 4 is sufficient. I suppose if you have the budget for it and don't mind spending the money then go ahead, but again it's somewhere where you can save money.

I would not buy any power supply from Powercool, mostly because I've never read a positive review of one (or any review), so don't know what the quality is like. I would prefer to not take any chances and know that the quality of the power supply I was buying was high.
You could probably run two GTX 590s on a good 1000W PSU (with more than the two PCIe connectors that the Powercool has), altho I'm sure some would not advise it, but you would have to be running an absolutely massive resolution to justify two let alone one GTX 590. Running more than one of them would probably also require a motherboard with two PCIe slots at x16 lane speed each, whereas that Gigabyte would is 'only' dual x8 which is fast enough for the vast majority of graphics cards, but probably not two dual GPU graphics cards like the GTX 590.
So if you're only going to be running one of them then you would be able to get a good 650/750W PSU for around ~£90-£110 and maybe even save money by getting a cheaper motherboard with only one PCIe slot at x16. If you want the option to install two GTX 590s then I would suggest spending at least £140 on a 1000W+ PSU and spend more to get a motherboard with enough PCIe lanes to optimally support two of them.

 

[Why_Me]

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice <---- Could you do a "copy & paste" of this on here please.

 

[heavysoul]

Gaming PCs do not benefit from hyperthreading so I think you should save yourself the money and get the i5-2500K.

Again, gaming PCs do not need or gain anything from having 8GB of RAM, 4 is sufficient. I suppose if you have the budget for it and don't mind spending the money then go ahead, but again it's somewhere where you can save money.

I would not buy any power supply from Powercool, mostly because I've never read a positive review of one (or any review), so don't know what the quality is like. I would prefer to not take any chances and know that the quality of the power supply I was buying was high.
You could probably run two GTX 590s on a good 1000W PSU (with more than the two PCIe connectors that the Powercool has), altho I'm sure some would not advise it, but you would have to be running an absolutely massive resolution to justify two let alone one GTX 590. Running more than one of them would probably also require a motherboard with two PCIe slots at x16 lane speed each, whereas that Gigabyte would is 'only' dual x8 which is fast enough for the vast majority of graphics cards, but probably not two dual GPU graphics cards like the GTX 590.
So if you're only going to be running one of them then you would be able to get a good 650/750W PSU for around ~£90-£110 and maybe even save money by getting a cheaper motherboard with only one PCIe slot at x16. If you want the option to install two GTX 590s then I would suggest spending at least £140 on a 1000W+ PSU and spend more to get a motherboard with enough PCIe lanes to optimally support two of them.

Hi Silvune,

Thanks for the reply, theres some helpful information.
Im looking to make it future proof/upgradable, so i dont mind spending a bit more on where its needed.
Also what do you think about the case?
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-obsidian-series-700d-black-alu-front-panel-full-tower-case-3-x-140mm-fans-w-o-psu
or is there better options out there, i dont want any thing to fancy looking.

Thanks

 

[cmadrid]

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaster-haf-932-advance-black-full-tower-case-with-usb-30-w-o-psu

I'd get that case!

also.. 8gb of ram isn't used by the games.. but your system doesnt run the game in a vacuum, so having 8gb of ram will ensure that you have enough ram for everything.. tom's has an article somewhere detailing why 8gb of ram is helpful for video card performance

 

[cmadrid]

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/scythe-mugen-2-quiet-cpu-cooler-for-s775-1366-1156-1155-and-amd-754-939-940-am2-am2plus-am3

or

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaster-hyper-212-plus-4-heat-pipes-with-120mm-quiet-fan-lga775-1155-1156-1366-am2-am2plus-am3

should be good for cooling your cpu

 

[heavysoul]

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice <---- Could you do a "copy & paste" of this on here please.

Thanks here you go.



Approximate Purchase Date: Hopefully within the next few months, no immediate rush tho i want to do my homework first

Budget Range: £1200-£1400


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Home Studio for Music Recording, surfing internet



Parts Not Required: ( keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, )


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: scan.co.uk


Country of Origin: united kingdom


Parts Preferences: by brand or type: Intel Processor. nvidia graphics card


Overclocking: Maybe


SLI or Crossfire: Yes


Additional Comments: (nothing to fancy looking no over heating and would like it to run quiet if possible)

 

[heavysoul]

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/scythe-mugen-2-quiet-cpu-cooler-for-s775-1366-1156-1155-and-amd-754-939-940-am2-am2plus-am3

or

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaster-hyper-212-plus-4-heat-pipes-with-120mm-quiet-fan-lga775-1155-1156-1366-am2-am2plus-am3

should be good for cooling your cpu

Hi,
so cooling with fans would be sufficient, its not worth looking into water cooling? or is the only differance between the two reduced noise?
As you can tell, all this is pretty new to me so all info is good thanks.

 

[cmadrid]

You shouldn't need water cooling

 

[Why_Me]

Here's something to ponder...dual factory over clocked gtx 560's in SLI.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164950 £109.99 inc. vat FREE DELIVERY
Corsair 750W HX Modular PSU

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/261255 £131.43 inc. vat FREE DELIVERY
Asrock P67 EXTREME4 V3 1155 Socket 7.1 Channel HD Audio ATX Motherboard

http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Intel+Core+i7-2600K+3.40GHz+%28Sandybridge%29+Socket+LGA1155+Processor+-+Retail+?productId=43214 £215.99 inc. VAT
Intel Core i7-2600K 3.40GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Fans%2C+Heatsinks%2C+Coolers/CPU+Coolers/Coolermaster+Hyper+212+Plus+CPU+Cooler+?productId=39577 £17.10 inc. VAT
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler

http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/1TB+Samsung+HD103SJ+SpinPoint+F3+SATA-II+3.5%22+Hard+Drive+?productId=37726 £37.19 inc. VAT
1TB Samsung HD103SJ SpinPoint F3 SATA-II 3.5" Hard Drive

http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/DDR3/Dual+Channel+1600MHz/8GB+Mushkin+Blackline+LV+%23996995+%282x4GB%29+DDR3+1600MHz+9-9-9-24+?productId=44336 £75.36 inc. VAT
8GB Mushkin Blackline LV #996995 (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz 9-9-9-24 1.5v Lifetime Warranty

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/255699 £189.99 inc. vat FREE DELIVERY
MSI GTX 560 TWIN FROZR II 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI Out PCI-E Graphics Card

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/255699 £189.99 inc. vat FREE DELIVERY
MSI GTX 560 TWIN FROZR II 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI Out PCI-E Graphics Card

 

[heavysoul]

cheers for that, i will certainly ponder over it.

Do you think it would run arma 2 on high? and would it be fully upgradeable a few years down the line if i get a decent case?.

Have you any recommendations on a case?, i have my eye on this one at the minute.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-obsidian-series-700d-black-alu-front-panel-full-tower-case-3-x-140mm-fans-w-o-psu

Thanks again

 

[cmadrid]

Nice build Why_Me! Personally I like the HAF 932 Advanced case, but there are plenty of good cases to pick from

 

[heavysoul]

would it be worth the extra money for this:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143019

instead of this:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164950? for future upgrading

 

[cmadrid]

750hx should be enough, if you go bigger I'd get the 850, you shouldn't need the 1000