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Will I be able to play games like black ops with this gpu at high sett

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February 28, 2011 7:26:00 PM

ct1615 said:
it really depends on your resolution. the GT 430 hardly draws much power so PSU you will be OK but its really an entry level gaming card.

for a similar price you can get the GTS 250 or ATI 4850, both are better cards
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

* are you specifically looking for a low profile card?

no, just anything that will work without having to upgrade my psu, perferably under 100buks, and my psu dose not have any pci express cables. btw
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February 28, 2011 7:33:03 PM

Markusx64 said:
no, just anything that will work without having to upgrade my psu, perferably under 100buks, and my psu dose not have any pci express cables. btw


often the sign of a cheap PSU that really lacks sufficient power on its 12v rail (powers the video card, among other vital hardware). I doubt it can really deliver 480w. I would suggest the ATI 5670, its a better card then the GT430 and needs no external power connector since it hardly draws power.

"Other than that, the card doesn't consume heaps of power and is very silent. If the GeForce GT 430 meets your generic PC usage and/or HTPC requirements then sure, go for it. Gaming wise your money simply is better invested in a Radeon HD 5670 with 1024 MB gDDR5 memory, features wise with HDMI 1.4a bringing 3D Stereo support, the excellent video processor and being CUDA backed, it might be an interesting contender. "


http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gt-430-review/16

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and PSU upgrade is you have the extra $, always a wise investment.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 28, 2011 7:59:18 PM

He's trying to spend $100 or less; I doubt he's going to upgrade his PSU so stop telling him to waste his money.

Get a GTS 450; $100 and will play bad ops on high settings if your CPU isn't crap.
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February 28, 2011 8:20:45 PM

minitron815 said:
He's trying to spend $100 or less; I doubt he's going to upgrade his PSU so stop telling him to waste his money.



only a noob thinks a solid PSU is "waste" of money
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February 28, 2011 10:42:13 PM

Even with the 450 his computer draws 250-300W total; I'd take my chances with a generic 480W.

Only noobs buy unnecessary upgrades.
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February 28, 2011 10:49:34 PM

minitron815 said:
Even with the 450 his computer draws 250-300W total; I'd take my chances with a generic 480W.

Only noobs buy unnecessary upgrades.


in other words, he will be pushing his 12v to the max, thanks for proving your lack of PSU knowledge.
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February 28, 2011 10:56:19 PM

Neither of us knows what PSU he has; we know it's 480W and he needs 250-300W. You have no idea how much he's pushing the PSU. Actually you probably have no idea about a lot of things.

I don't see why he should buy a new power supply without trying it out. I think it's funny how everyone obsesses over PSUs and probably can't even calculate wattage without the newegg tool.
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February 28, 2011 11:44:05 PM

minitron815 said:
Neither of us knows what PSU he has; we know it's 480W and he needs 250-300W. You have no idea how much he's pushing the PSU. Actually you probably have no idea about a lot of things.

I don't see why he should buy a new power supply without trying it out. I think it's funny how everyone obsesses over PSUs and probably can't even calculate wattage without the newegg tool.



just because you are too stupid to calculate wattage without a newegg tool, you should not assume other people are. after all, most people are your superior in intelligence...as well as many small mammals and fish. hopefully one day you are willing to accept your stupidity and rid us of it.
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February 28, 2011 11:54:31 PM

Sorry you get butthurt because you got called out for being a retard and recommending unnecessary upgrades. Perhaps one day you'll learn to be accountable for what you say; then again these are just online forums where it's okay for people like you to be retarded.
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February 28, 2011 11:54:45 PM

ct1615 said:
only a noob thinks a solid PSU is "waste" of money

i know its not but i would like to see my options for gpu without a psu upgrade. Btw the only games i play are cod and besides that i edit videos.
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March 1, 2011 12:16:03 AM

Why don't you try using the video card first then buy a video card if it doesn't work.
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March 1, 2011 12:43:52 AM

minitron815 said:
Sorry you get butthurt because you got called out for being a retard and recommending unnecessary upgrades. Perhaps one day you'll learn to be accountable for what you say; then again these are just online forums where it's okay for people like you to be retarded.


yeah too bad I have a gold badge, one of the first to get it on the forum, and you have yet to get a single person to agree with you...truth hurts huh?
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March 1, 2011 12:48:55 AM

Markusx64 said:
i know its not but i would like to see my options for gpu without a psu upgrade. Btw the only games i play are cod and besides that i edit videos.


cards like the ATI 5670, 4770, and even 5750 don't demand much power and can give you solid performance. just about any modern video card can handle video editing.




http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-5670,2533...
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March 1, 2011 1:07:29 AM

Gold badge in Tom's Hardware forums makes a certified tech expert, got it.

So you think the OP needs to upgrade from 480W PSU that you have no information about to power a 250-300 watt system. I'm pretty sure this is where you being a retard comes into play.
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March 1, 2011 1:22:12 AM

minitron815 said:
Gold badge in Tom's Hardware forums makes a certified tech expert, got it.



nope but you having no votes does certify that not a single person here has ever agreed with your answers and that is a fact...
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March 1, 2011 1:26:37 AM

minitron815 said:
Gold badge in Tom's Hardware forums makes a certified tech expert, got it.

So you think the OP needs to upgrade from 480W PSU that you have no information about to power a 250-300 watt system. I'm pretty sure this is where you being a retard comes into play.


Considering what the OP said above, it may be time for him to get a new PSU anyway since he is lacking a pci-e power cable. And, not saying his psu is generic, but if it was, I'd never go by what you said, taking a chance on a generic 480 watt with any kind of decent graphics card. That in itself is really moronic. Most generics are in way over their heads half the time and def not worth the risk. The guy could always score a used card on the cheap, and a psu like the Rocketfish 550 watt off ebay for cheap (good psu, had received solid reviews) and be fine.

Here are some auction links to cards and power supplies with good solid BIN prices that could help you reach your goal while staying close to your budget:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-Radeon-4850-Dual-DVI-512MB-Game...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Tul-Corporation-ATI-Radeon-HD4850-A...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ASUS-EAH4830-HTDP-512MD3-Radeon-HD-...

http://cgi.ebay.com/PNY-NVIDIA-GeForce-9600-GT-512MB-DD...

http://cgi.ebay.com/BFG-NVIDIA-GeForce-9600-GT-OC-BFGR9...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rocketfish-550-Watt-ATX-CPU-Power-S...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rocketfish-RF-550wps-550w-Desktop-A...

Rocketfish 550 review:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Rocketfish-550-W...
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March 1, 2011 1:32:26 AM

@Markus ignore minitron815 he's just a troll, professorprofessorso suggestion is actually really good.
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March 1, 2011 1:42:05 AM

Instead of complaining about and to each other a little more focus on the ops question maybe in order.
What power supply do you have currently is it a no name or a brand name Power supply. Can you read any of the information on the supply like amps on the 12v rail is it a single 12v rail or split things like that.
Also what resolution do you play at.
The more info you can provide the better and clearer answers you will get.
If you play at a higer res like 1920x1080 or above you really won't be able to play wel with a 430 as its more entry level.
a 250 is better than a 430 game wise. You may want to look for a 450 if you have the power supply for it .
You really need to list more of your system specs also.
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March 1, 2011 2:42:45 AM

lol ..looks like finally someones more interested in helping .. :) 
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March 1, 2011 2:45:59 AM

ct1615 said:
just because you are too stupid to calculate wattage without a newegg tool, you should not assume other people are. after all, most people are your superior in intelligence...as well as many small mammals and fish. hopefully one day you are willing to accept your stupidity and rid us of it.


:D  haha ..that one mustve hurt ..
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March 1, 2011 2:51:56 AM

yeah ..I agree with the others ..avoid using that PSU if its something generic ..I've heard of 10$ PSUs frying out all the components ..and in one remote case literally blowing up when it got pushed (90% load for a few minutes) ..so of you don't wanna run the risk of losing some of your components spend 70-80$ and get a 500-600w PSU ..I'd reccomend corsair ..if your PSU is good enough ..then its okay ..put its strange not having pcie cables ..how old is it ..? check the MTBF (mean time before failure) 20000hrs works out to around 2 and a quarter yrs ..so if its time is almost up ..definetly get a new PSU before installing a quality card ..
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March 1, 2011 3:16:59 AM

stop arguing... jesus... for 40$ american, he can get a 400watt 80+ certified, with 38 watts on 2 12 volt rails... newegg... to the OP buy a "cheap" 80+ PSU and get a gts450... end of arguement...
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March 1, 2011 3:31:39 AM

fyasko said:
stop arguing... jesus... for 40$ american, he can get a 400watt 80+ certified, with 38 watts on 2 12 volt rails... newegg... to the OP buy a "cheap" 80+ PSU and get a gts450... end of arguement...


He is trying to stay within a $100 budget he stated, so getting decent 400 watt and a GF 450 would push him past that price limit. That is why I posted the links above.
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March 1, 2011 5:15:41 PM

professorprofessorson said:
He is trying to stay within a $100 budget he stated, so getting decent 400 watt and a GF 450 would push him past that price limit. That is why I posted the links above.


the ATI 5670 + corsair 430w is $120 out the door and $100 after rebate. he can purchase the card and then save up for the PSU. Like I stated before, he can power the card with his current PSU but " PSU upgrade if you have the extra $, always a wise investment. "
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March 1, 2011 9:43:24 PM

Yep never ever skimp on the power supply its a nightmare waiting to happen.
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March 8, 2011 11:02:27 PM

Best answer selected by MarkusX64.
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