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May 7, 2011 9:44:45 AM

Here's a list of what I want to get for a Photoshop workstation,
and Gaming PC. Any feedback would be appreciated.
I'm mostly unsure on Motherboard and Graphics Card.

(I will be using an HP 2709m monitor, 27" 1080p resolution.)


CASE: Lian Li (PC-7FNWX-B) (has a side window)
http://www.sundialmicro.com/lianli [...] _1883.html
CPU:
i5-2600K
MOTHERBOARD: GIGABYTE GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128477
POWER SUPPLY: SeaSonic X Series X-850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
MEMORY: Mushkin Enhanced Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 996982
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
CPU COOLER: ZALMAN CNPS10X QUIET 120mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
http://www.amazon.com/ZALMAN-CNPS- [...] 719&sr=1-2
OPTICAL DRIVE: Lite-On DVD with lightscribe

HARD DRIVE:
Western Digital 1.5 TB Caviar Green SATA Intellipower 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive WD15EARS
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digi [...] 636&sr=8-1
VIDEO CARD:
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
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MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II Golden Edition GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
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MSI N460GTX Hawk GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
SOLID STATE DRIVE: Intel X25-M SSDSA2MH080G2K5 2.5" 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
May 7, 2011 7:13:07 PM

gametstr said:
r u getting the i5 2500K or the i7 2600K?

as for the GPU i think the radeon HD6950 2GB GDDR5 version would be a stronger choice especially at your resolution.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...




No, ATi and INTEL don't go well together, He should get the I5 it's cheaper and performs nearly as well

The nvidia 470 gtx is a much better choice and if he sli it would be a dream.
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May 7, 2011 7:26:03 PM

addison said:
No, ATi and INTEL don't go well together, He should get the I5 it's cheaper and performs nearly as well

The nvidia 470 gtx is a much better choice and if he sli it would be a dream.



Could you enlighten me on that please.

edit :

bump. waiting for an answer... :w
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
May 7, 2011 7:58:02 PM

Worst advice I've ever heard addison.

Your build looks good. However, drop the 2600K for a 2500K. You don't need HT for Photoshop, I know because I use it. That saves you 100 right there. Drop that board, you don't need a $175 board. That's just such a waste. Get this board, it's cheaper and will be sufficient for your needs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You don't need an 850w power supply. 560 TI SLI wouldn't even need 700w. Get a 550w, it'll run your system fine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Better deal on the SSD faster overall as well $30 cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You don't need low CL/CAS ram for Photoshop, and DDR3 1600 on top of that. All that gives you 2-5% over a standard $80 ram kit @ CL9 1333. It's not worth the extra $60.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The WD Green's are terrible drives no matter what type of SATA. Slow and just terrible for the cost. Get the Samsung F3 1TB for $60 off Amazon. Faster and still just as quiet.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-H...

If your gaming at your resolution, you want the 6950 2GB. Your thinking Cuda, CUDA doesn't help at all in photoshop. The only thing that uses Cuda in all of the CS5 Adobe is Premiere Pro, and even then that's one out of many that are more useful (Lightroom, After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator) all those don't use CUDA. The 6950 is the better choice because it runs better @ higher resolutions IE 1920x1080. The 560 is good at 1680x1050 but anything above that, the 6950 2GB wins out.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/293?vs=330

2500K vs 2600K
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287
Barely a difference in PS benchmarks and gaming.
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May 8, 2011 10:22:52 AM

Sorry, I typed that wrong...I plan on getting the i5 2500k, accidentally put a "6" in there.

It's good to know that Hyperthreading doesn't add much as far as using Photoshop, because, that would
be the only reason I'd get it. I would definitely rather save the money.

I'll look into the 6950 2G, I do want something quiet, hopefully it's not too loud.
I'm surprised to hear the 560Ti can't handle 1080p. But, I suppose since
my monitor is large, and I want it to perform at it's best, photoshop, games, then I
should get what is best for it.

Does it hurt to have an 850 watt power supply, if it's more than what I need?
I already bought the one I listed, the Seasonic. So, I'd have to return it. But, if it doesn't
hurt to use it, I might just stick with it.
If it's an issue of just wasting power, making a more expensive electric bill, then I
should consider returning or selling it, to get something at a lower wattage.

Thanks for the advice.
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May 8, 2011 11:33:30 AM

Yeah get the 6950 2Gb or even the 6970.

Seasonic is one of the best PSU brands out there. Quality build and components.
Stick with it since u already have it. If u decide to go with CrossFire u 'll already have the PSU u need.

p.s : ur links are broke in the opening thread.
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
May 8, 2011 5:34:18 PM

^+1

I do disagree with the 6970 thing though. You can just unlock the 6950 2GB to get to that.

The 560 can handle 1080P just not as well as the 6950 can. Memory is a minor thing, but once you get to HD gaming, more VRAM is beneficial. So the 2GB the 6950 has helps it in that remark. But the 6950 itself is pretty good at HD the 6950 1GB proves that.
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May 8, 2011 5:43:57 PM

I agree that theres no point in paying the price premium for the 6970 over the 6950 2GB. But it really depends on him if he's willing to lose warranty by unlocking it and taking the risk or not. Personal preference imo.
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
May 8, 2011 5:49:38 PM

^ I don't believe overclock voids warranty then. IF he does plan to overclock, the 560 is fine. A solid overclock on the 560 to 1GHZ gets it up to the 570's performance.
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May 8, 2011 5:56:30 PM

Anyone who is saying that the hd6950 2gb is definitively better than the MSI Twin Frozr 560ti @1080p (or vice versa) is BSing you. They are both great cards with advantages and disadvantages.
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May 8, 2011 6:00:33 PM

In general they r both on par but at higher resolutions the 6950 2GB would have a slight edge. If unlocked to 6970 it 'd definitely be better than the 560Ti.

The 6950 is a smarter choice.
this article seconds that.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card-...
There is only the 6950 1 GB and 6950 2GB. No 560Ti.
also the 6950 is placed a step higher in the hierarchy chart.
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May 8, 2011 7:41:21 PM

I don't plan on overclocking a graphics card, I wouldn't even know how. This is my first PC build, I've been
researching stuff since last June.

Hm, about my links, I think that is because I copied and pasted them from another post, so, instead of
the whole link copying over, it only copied what text was displayed, as in the "[...]" Sorry about that,
I'm new to tomshardware.

but, even so, it seems people were able to read the description of the items, or know what they were.
Maybe I will try to edit my first post.

-Larry

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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
May 8, 2011 7:46:16 PM

IT's ok, you don't have to edit it. I've seen these parts so often that I know which ones you're talking about.
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May 9, 2011 9:59:51 PM

aznshinobi said:
Worst advice I've ever heard addison.

Your build looks good. However, drop the 2600K for a 2500K. You don't need HT for Photoshop, I know because I use it. That saves you 100 right there. Drop that board, you don't need a $175 board. That's just such a waste. Get this board, it's cheaper and will be sufficient for your needs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You don't need an 850w power supply. 560 TI SLI wouldn't even need 700w. Get a 550w, it'll run your system fine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Better deal on the SSD faster overall as well $30 cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You don't need low CL/CAS ram for Photoshop, and DDR3 1600 on top of that. All that gives you 2-5% over a standard $80 ram kit @ CL9 1333. It's not worth the extra $60.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The WD Green's are terrible drives no matter what type of SATA. Slow and just terrible for the cost. Get the Samsung F3 1TB for $60 off Amazon. Faster and still just as quiet.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Spinpoint-Cache-Desktop-H...

If your gaming at your resolution, you want the 6950 2GB. Your thinking Cuda, CUDA doesn't help at all in photoshop. The only thing that uses Cuda in all of the CS5 Adobe is Premiere Pro, and even then that's one out of many that are more useful (Lightroom, After Effects, Photoshop, Illustrator) all those don't use CUDA. The 6950 is the better choice because it runs better @ higher resolutions IE 1920x1080. The 560 is good at 1680x1050 but anything above that, the 6950 2GB wins out.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/293?vs=330

2500K vs 2600K
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287
Barely a difference in PS benchmarks and gaming.









Look up INTEL and AMD and then Nvdida.
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
May 10, 2011 3:21:31 AM

^ haha, though some of the posts do make sense, a large portion have huge bias and make no sense. Addison, you brought the "Intel+NV" and AMD+AMD up, why don't you find an article and prove it.
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May 14, 2011 11:18:56 PM

Best answer selected by Larry_75.
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